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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
I'm starting camming with my bf too and I had a look around SM. I saw couples for 0.99 per minute. That's for two people. And 35% of that...What's that per minute?
On a lighter note, there's this site I'm on where I usually have the highest per minute rate whenever I'm online in my category. I'm usually in privates there and I'm one of the top 3 highest earners. So basically, I was thinking about it, and I don't mind if someone is cheap. Each to their own I guess. If it's working out for you to charge less...? For me it doesn't work out. I still have sites where I'm pretty new and I'm still experimenting, there were sites where my room became a ghost town whenever I raised my rates. I don't like working there because it kills me to know that on another site I could get that much more for this same thing I'm doing. I don't know where I'm going with all this;D Just some random thoughts I guess!
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GOD BLESS THIS THREAD!I raised my rates & had to raise my daily goal because i was killing my old goal :)WAY better customers!+ i am not dying being burnt out, i make way more money for way less work and time!THANKYOU
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Wow. I just peeked in a room where the model required $120 for the gold show to start, but she came right out and told the guys that she'll still do it even if she only gets half of that. So she's willing to do the show if she gets $60, which would end up being only $21 in her pocket. Yikes!
Telling your room that you'll still do the show even if you only get halfway there is a bad idea. Of course, guys aren't gonna tip gold past the halfway mark if you tell them that.
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And when she returned to public chat, a few guys complained that they didn't see a cumshot. And one guy said in all caps "HE NEVER CAME. WELL I AIN'T SPENDING ANOTHER $10 TO FIND OUT."
I swear, some of these guys are a bunch of whiners.
When SM lets me start camming, I don't think I'll be doing gold shows. I see a bunch of guys trying to talk models into doing other things that aren't listed in their gold show topic. If she's using toys in the pussy, they want anal. If she's doing anal, they wanna see b/g. Silly boys... :P
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Originally Posted by
Fridays
Yep.
well they might cause in order to get in the show, they have to pledge regardless.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that once you come right out and say "I'll even do the show for half of my goal!" they are gonna hold you to that. Models should think twice before they blurt out "I'll tell you what, guys...if you get me halfway there, I'll do the show!" Don't tell guys this when you still have several minutes remaining on the timer. If you're down to your final seconds, and you're halfway there, and you still want to do the show, that's fine.
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well realistically, the guys who have already pledged are going to pay regardless so while I agree that it's a stupid thing to say she may still get more guys atf who are like "oh ok well I'll see the show regardless". It just means that the guys IN the show already aren't going to tip more to get it up there (which I find they don't really do anyway).
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so I asked SM to let me raise my rates and they did. However, when I lowered them below what they had "automatically" raised them to... now I'm not given the option to put it back above 4.99. Wtf?
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I raised my rates on SM to $3.99/$4.99 and a guy last night had the nerve to tell me I was too expensive. I told him it would be worth his while, and he took me to private!
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Originally Posted by
luscious sadie
well realistically, the guys who have already pledged are going to pay regardless so while I agree that it's a stupid thing to say she may still get more guys atf who are like "oh ok well I'll see the show regardless". It just means that the guys IN the show already aren't going to tip more to get it up there (which I find they don't really do anyway).
Whatever floats her boat. I don't like to "settle" (guys trying to negotiate prices) when I'm certain that I'm already offering a great deal. But yeah, whatever works for YOU is what's important. :)
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Originally Posted by
LadyCoco
I raised my rates on SM to $3.99/$4.99 and a guy last night had the nerve to tell me I was too expensive. I told him it would be worth his while, and he took me to private!
That's great, and I'm glad you stood your ground and didn't allow him to talk you into lowering your rates. :) When random guys (or cheap ones) on ImLive ask for my discount code, I decline. I chose my current price for a reason, so what the hell makes them think they're entitled to a discount? LOL. I wouldn't dare ask a waitress at Red Lobster "Can I get a discount?" I pay FULL price. :P
Some guys will still take you private anyway, once they realize they can't convince you to drop your price. And $3.99/$4.99 are the exact SM rates that the studio I left () suggested that models start out with. And of course, you get a small percentage of that. Expensive? Pffft! A cam show is entertainment, and we probably all know guys who are willing to spend way more than that on live sports events...except the football players aren't naked and masturbating. :P
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Do you ladies on SM notice a difference in your earnings when you enable the block sessions? Or do you choose to disable them?
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
Whatever floats her boat. I don't like to "settle" (guys trying to negotiate prices) when I'm certain that I'm already offering a great deal. But whatever pays your bills and works for you, I guess...
there's a difference between letting guys negotiate price and "settling for a lower goal" though. Like, if you make half your goal and are ok with the amount, why not start the show? If more guys want to join, they have to pledge anyway and you'll end up making your "lower goal" plus more. It's not like with the lower goal new guys are going to be able to see.
I don't do gold shows for this and other reasons and I resent you giving me, and other girls attitude by saying "whatever pays your bills and works for you" in a condescending tone.
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Originally Posted by
luscious sadie
there's a difference between letting guys negotiate price and "settling for a lower goal" though. Like, if you make half your goal and are ok with the amount, why not start the show? If more guys want to join, they have to pledge anyway and you'll end up making your "lower goal" plus more. It's not like with the lower goal new guys are going to be able to see.
I don't do gold shows for this and other reasons and I resent you giving me, and other girls attitude by saying "whatever pays your bills and works for you" in a condescending tone.
I'm not the one with the attitude, and I wasn't trying to be condescending...sorry if you felt that way. You're the one who seems determined to quote all of my posts and dispute everything I say. READ posts thoroughly before you choose to quote and nitpick.
And actually, I'd probably go ahead and do the show too if I was satisfied with the amount of GOLD I received, and if it's not too far off from the desired goal. But if I already feel that my desired goal is a "really good deal," me accepting only 50% of that probably won't be good enough for me. THAT is what I was saying.
I guess it was my "But whatever works for you and pays your bills" comment that came across as a bit snobbish, so I probably should've reworded that or put a smiley after it.
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
Do you ladies on SM notice a difference in your earnings when you enable the block sessions? Or do you choose to disable them?
No noticeable difference, for me.
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
I'm not the one with the attitude, and I wasn't trying to be condescending...sorry if you felt that way. You're the one who seems determined to quote all of my posts and dispute everything I say. READ posts thoroughly before you choose to quote and nitpick.
And actually, I'd probably go ahead and do the show too if I was satisfied with the amount of GOLD I received, and if it's not too far off from the desired goal. But if I already feel that my desired goal is a "really good deal," me accepting only 50% of that probably won't be good enough for me. THAT is what I was saying.
I guess it was my "But whatever works for you and pays your bills" comment that came across as a bit snobbish, so I probably should've reworded that or put a smiley after it.
didn't mean to come off as having attitude or nitpicking your posts. Sorry if I did :)
I don't do gold shows for oh so many reasons and one of the biggest is that no matter how good a deal you give, it never seems to be enough for them. Even if you're charging 1$/minute they're saving like, 30$ at my rates for a 10 minute show. That's a pretty sweet deal but I wouldn't dare charge that much for a 10 minute show. I would probably only charge 5$ gold. So I just don't do gold shows.
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Originally Posted by
luscious sadie
didn't mean to come off as having attitude or nitpicking your posts. Sorry if I did :)
I don't do gold shows for oh so many reasons and one of the biggest is that no matter how good a deal you give, it never seems to be enough for them. Even if you're charging 1$/minute they're saving like, 30$ at my rates for a 10 minute show. That's a pretty sweet deal but I wouldn't dare charge that much for a 10 minute show. I would probably only charge 5$ gold. So I just don't do gold shows.
It looks like my SM profile is all set, and I'm pretty sure I won't be doing gold shows, even though I was really curious about it at first. I could just imagine it...me doing a great show, and guys demanding all kinds of stuff and not being satisfied with what I'm already doing. That would suck. I've seen a lot of that behavior already just from peeking at other girls' public chat.
So even though I do think GOLD shows was a good idea (kind of like a MFC public show, except EVERYONE watching MUST pay up), I'll probably do without them and stick with exclusive and premium shows. I just wanna do me, and make me and the guy happy, without having to deal with a room full of super-picky, bossy guys. That one-on-one 'Let's chat and fuck!' setting is pretty cool, in my opinion.
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
Dont forget that if a member cant afford a 10 min exclusive on 4$ or 5$ a min, he can afford a couple of golshows from you though.
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Originally Posted by
Mayrah
Dont forget that if a member cant afford a 10 min exclusive on 4$ or 5$ a min, he can afford a couple of golshows from you though.
True.
I agree with Fridays on the $1/minute and UP thing. $5 for 5 minutes and $10 for 10 minutes is very reasonable. I like seeing girls with those kind of gold show topics. Hell, this Don Wand glass toy feels so good soaked in hot water that 5 minutes is probably all I need...lmao. :P
I never thought about saving the toy shows for exclusive only. I've always done them in premium chat too, but I definitely understand why some girls save it for exclusive only (don't want 30sec peepers witnessing the toy play). SM girls...what are your thoughts on this?
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
I don't use toys unless I'm in exclusive. I clearly state that in my profile and if guys ask for it and give me a low rating, I can get the rating removed because of that.
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Originally Posted by
luscious sadie
I don't use toys unless I'm in exclusive. I clearly state that in my profile and if guys ask for it and give me a low rating, I can get the rating removed because of that.
What??? You can seriously get Streamate to remove them? Streamate, the same company who returns any email messages with completely different information that you ask them for? How does that work?
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yeah, a guy asked me to do things that I clearly state in my profile I won't do. Within less than 2 minutes he was gone and gave me a 2 rating. I told SM that he gave me a low rating because I wouldn't do things I clearly state in my profile that I won't do. They removed it.
they can look up chat transcripts so don't lie to them about this kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by
luscious sadie
yeah, a guy asked me to do things that I clearly state in my profile I won't do. Within less than 2 minutes he was gone and gave me a 2 rating. I told SM that he gave me a low rating because I wouldn't do things I clearly state in my profile that I won't do. They removed it.
they can look up chat transcripts so don't lie to them about this kind of thing.
Wow! I'm very surprised to hear that SM, of all cam sites, actually did that for you. And I'm HAPPY to hear this! They did the right thing removing that asshole's rating. :) You shouldn't be penalized for remaining firm about your exclusive/premium rules.
I really do think it's a great idea to take screenshots of conversations whenever you feel suspicious about someone. I can't tell you how many times ImLive customer service has told models "Please send us a screenshot to show us this happening." That used to annoy me when I didn't know what the hell a screenshot was. :P
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Originally Posted by
GlamourRouge
What??? You can seriously get Streamate to remove them? Streamate, the same company who returns any email messages with completely different information that you ask them for? How does that work?
I know! It blows my mind too but they have done it TWICE for me with no complaint. SM support has been really good to me lately. Either they are getting better, or I have been really lucky, or it is a sign of the upcoming Apocalypse! :O
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The mate removes things that are clearly done in a manner of hate. They understand and look up your history. As long as you are a good model they will b good to you. Support is better during the day.
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to see my cooch its gonna cost ya, and the only way i can be happy with what im doing is to really get some kind of real compisation so hey if im too high then you need a raise or pormotion lmao