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How to make money being a clean dancer in a club full of extras girls
Hey SW!
I'm gonna make this short and sweet. The club I'm at now is pretty much a brothel innocently disguised as a strip club. I've been at the club for about two weeks, and much to my dismay there's not another club I can work in for the time being because I'm not 21, and all of them but this one want you to be 21.
Basically, almost every single girl there does extras. Cheap handjobs and full on sex in the lap dance area. There are no private rooms. The most I can make in one night is 2-300 here, while the other girls walk out with about 1500. (they're reaaaally cheap handjobs)
Has anyone encountered this before? I will not sacrifice my standards and buckle down and give extras. Any tips on how to make at least a bit more than what I'm making at this club?
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Re: How to make money being a clean dancer in a club full of extras girls
Fake tits and a full set of teeth.
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Re: How to make money being a clean dancer in a club full of extras girls
Laurisa made a really great post about this exact thing not too long ago:
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=166525
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I've got all my teeth, thanks though.
And thanks :)
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I started working @ this club thats a fucking whorehouse, but because fake tits and a full set of teeth seem to be a novelty they like me there. :rotfl:
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I have noticed for the most part that dirty clubs often have ugly dancers and if you are attractive you can make money just because of that. Of course this varies depending on the other dancers and whether they are ugly and skanky or attractive.
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Camming can be an option in the mean time... maybe?
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I'm FAR more attractive than all of the other girls and women there, not to sound full of myself. Also, I'm one of the only white girls. While this should give me an advantage, and it does to some extent, almost the entire population of customers think that I also give cheap extras.
Ho hum.
But, last night I made more money than a few of the girls, no extras needed. :)
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Is management encouraging extras, or just encouraging the strippers to make money however they can? If it's the latter, you could try wording your pitch very carefully, and playing bait-and-switch.
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Move clubs or be prepared to be incessantly groped every night because customers would be used to doing it & getting away with it. I don't trust clubs like that. If men there are used to getting what they want, they usually get violent if they don't get it. Especially when all the girls are doing it & you have to imply you'll do something just to get the guy to VIP.
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Sell companionship and sensuality - not sex.
Not every customer who walks into your club is going to want an extra. Even if 90% of the customers want to Raw-Dog a stripper, theres still that 10% who aren't looking for sexual favors; they're still after the fantasy.
I've made a lot of money by just gaining a connection with the customer and having an enjoyable hour or two just dancing for them and conversing with them. Find out why they're there and identify their needs (other than sex); Do they want a cute, attractive and upbeat girl to entertain them? Do they want someone sweet and empathetic to lean on? Do they want someone quirky and sexy as hell to take their mind off life for a bit? Are they looking for that innocent "first date" - type thrill? Lots of guys are.
If everyone in your club is selling head, then you can find your niche as the stripper who is actually selling something deeper. It SOUNDS cheesy, but it's true. Become a good actress and theres much money to be made. The only issue with this type of approach and hustle is that it can be VERY draining on you, emotionally.
Good luck!
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Kellydancer
I have noticed for the most part that dirty clubs often have ugly dancers and if you are attractive you can make money just because of that. Of course this varies depending on the other dancers and whether they are ugly and skanky or attractive.
This is true. The club I left had gotten to the point of hiring skanky unattractive girls that would do extras. They ran out of the guys who liked hot, clean girls.
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I believe in actually explaining to these guys the reality of sickly dirty dances. Would they lick a lollipop that other men have licked? Do they actually realise that you can catch std's off these girls? I always say i'm a clean dancer proudly as if its a bonus to them... If the club is completely dirty and management don't inforce the rules then change clubs.. but i totally understand what your saying. Actually brothels are cleaner, at least you can have a shower in between bookings!!!! lol
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depends. how far are you from 21? if its like a few months or something you can prob cam in the meantime and wait it out or if youre dead set maybe drive to a further away club? or if ur not studying maybe book strip trips in different cities to stay in for a week or two [seek out rules about being 21 before]
that kind of environment youre in is not exactly ideal [especially when youre younger] i wouldnt push that club unless necessary, it would grate on your nerves after awhile.
and read some good sales / neurolinguistic programming books and hustle hut and talk yourself above the rest. 2-300 is not a bad average IMO
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^^^ what annouk. oui said.
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I'm working in a dirty club until I can move next month...I see everyone suggesting "camming". Maybe I should cam in the meantime. Can anyone explain this to me?
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This is actually a really good question considering a lot of clubs are allowing the demand of dirty dancers. It seems guys expect a blowjob and sex. Im tired of guys asking me for this when trying to get dances. I like to embarrass them and tell the nearest bouncer with them still standing there that they just asking for sex and or a blowjob. Fuck I get so sick of being made to feel like a hooker.
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This is actually a really good question considering a lot of clubs are allowing the demand of dirty dancers. It seems guys expect a blowjob and sex. Im tired of guys asking me for this when trying to get dances. I like to embarrass them and tell the nearest bouncer with them still standing there that they just asking for sex and or a blowjob. Fuck I get so sick of being made to feel like a hooker.
... and to top matters off, clean dancers working in extras-ridden clubs are at an almost equal level of risk of being ( bogusly ) busted for prostitution if swept up in an indiscriminate club bust as the dirty dancers. If that happens, good luck trying to 'prove' that you are innocent in a court situation of your word versus the word of a well respected local cop and a total absence of 'hard' evidence. And, ironically, where the dirty dancers will have earned enough money to retain their own well connected lawyers and thus have a good chance of charges being dropped or reduced, the low earning clean dancer plus a public defender will probably equal a conviction.
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stripperbabychu
I'm working in a dirty club until I can move next month...I see everyone suggesting "camming". Maybe I should cam in the meantime. Can anyone explain this to me?
There is a whole sub-forum about camming, and I'm sure the ladies there have tons of good info. Before you head on over and start asking questions, though, read up on all the great stuff that's already been posted.
Here's a great place to start.
And for more specific questions not answered in the stickies of CC, try putting the key words of your question into the search function. CC even has a good sticky thread on how to get results with SW's search feature. Good luck!
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Re: How to make money being a clean dancer in a club full of extras girls
I work right outside of Detroit. The whole metro Detroit area is full of extras clubs. I've danced at three Detroit clubs and they've all been big on extras.
I'm still averaging about 400 to 500 a night, sometimes less, sometimes more, and I consider this a slow time of year and below average. The first half of last month I was averaging $550 and the second half of December I was averaging closer to $700 or $800.
I'm not sure how many girls actually do extras at my club, but the number is pretty high. I know of a few who I consider to be simply be prostitutes. They are there to have sex and give blow jobs. There are many extras girls at my club, so many that I've wanted to travel a couple hours to another city and dance there. My club is moderately upsclae for a Detroit club and is in a decent location, making the clientele pretty good. I think that's important that the cliente is good, with money, in a club where there are lots of extras. There are going to be guys with money to spend who don't want someone to have sex with, they just want someone to keep them company for a while.
For example, at my club there was a dancer who was bragging about making $1500 on a day shift. When asked how she managed it, she said, "Oh, I was doing extras." She isn't ashamed at all and it is well known that she does extras. So I saw her soliciting a customer but he sent her away. Later, I went up to him since I saw that he was alone and had turned away the whore. We started talking and he ended up telling me that she offered him extras. We talked some more and after about 20 minutes of talking he asked for some dances. He ended up getting 12 dances. At $25 a song that's $300, plus he tipped me. So being a clean dancer paid off. I once had a customer but 24 dances in one night, and tipped me. I made $720 from him in one night. If a girl has sex with a guy for $200 (the going rate at a lot of clubs - sad), I'm still making more off of her from one customer and I get to keep my morals.
The key is to go for the good customers. Target the ones who tend to spend the most money on you. For me, it's middle-aged white men that look like business men. Most of the time, that's the type of customer I sit with. Be bubbly and cute and hold a conversation. Make them fall for you. I do my best to be like this, and to sort of engage them in conversation and smile a lot while appearing classy, sexy, and fun.
You won't always make $1500 a night in a club full of extras, but you'll make decent money and keep your morals. Just hustle even harder. You'll have customers who pay you to sit with them.
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Whenever I hear a customer say "well dancer X does it" I say "well dancer X is breaking the law and when she's caught, she'll get arrested for prostitution and will then become a registered sex offender. I'm not willing to take that risk". And that has for the most part shut them up. I think if a customer is gets away with it then he'll keep doing it. No amount of money is worth that crap to me. I also try to target new customers so they're not as jaded.
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When I was working at a dirty club, I found most of the dirty dancers to be loud, obnoxious, and raunchy. They'd get drunk and scream at other dancers. Even their stage shows involved having guys slap their ass. There's some guys who are going to be turned off by that personality, and monopolize on that. Act classier, cuter, whatever. But don't act like them.
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Keep moving; if a customer starts acting like he wants more than you are giving, stand up and walk away. You don't even have to say goodbye
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What I would really like to know is how to nicely get a dirty dancer fired. I work at a club that for the most part, has a reputation for having "nice clean, classy girls" but here and there we get some icky skanks that need some weeding out. My issue is that this particular "skank" made it really personal today when she took a very sweet, polite and favorite customer of mine away from me because of her little dirty stage tricks and aggressiveness. (I was actually needing his company at the time, more than his money.) This woman is also very unattractive and pushing 40. And a lot of the customers were actually complaining about it! Those type of women tend to not last long in our club but I would like to see her out of there A.S.A.P!!! I am known for being overly sweet and probably not assertive enough but I am worried that I am about to lose my temper with this hooker. I am probably a control freak and don't realize it..that may be why I want her gone so bad...I dunno...but I just know that if I ran the place, I would never lower my standards and let someone who looked and acted like that even if she was making the house money with all her dirty V.I.Ps I know that the reason she thinks she has to do those things is because she knows that she isn't very attractive, but she put herself in this environment on her own! There are other jobs out there!!! Management already had a chat with her because she has been caught a few times but why don't they just fire her? They just recently fired one girl because she was an obvious tweaker...I don't get why it is different in this situation. Anyway, I probably sound like I'm throwing a whiney hissy fit but I just needed to vent. She really hurt me today.