-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
I do not think it will show up in a background check, they check criminal and employment history. My mom and two of my Aunt's are nurses and 2/3 do NOT have squeeky clean pasts... mom and aunt were strippers and escorts. Also my mom appeared in a commercial for a strip club and They both had old arrested with no convictions for drugs. I would do this:
Disguise yourself for cam, Do not list anyone as your employer on ANYTHING, not ANYTHING( if you put Sm or MFC on an apartment app or anything it will show up).
If anyone asks you are a struggling student.
Work for a non US based company that doesn't report your income
OR even further from detection would be going indie..
After that I would deny deny deny. There is no way for someone to PROVE they saw you online unless it is an agency who can compel the site owner to produce 2257 info and that would be law enforcement.
I say you already cam, the risk is there but minimal. Unless you are very unusual or distinctive looking (tatoos,scars) it should be easy to change your appearance.
That's just My take on it.
True
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
This is ridiculous. Of course camming won't show up in a "background check" and doing sex work isn't going to impede you from getting into nursing school. Its nursing school, not the House of Representatives (and even that may be fair game). I don't know why you people feed into this fear-mongering mentality that somehow sex work is going to leave this huge stamp on your forehead for every interview you go into. Just do the work, file the taxes and don't write it down as work history, on an application. No one cares how you make your money, really. Colleges don't care, employers don't care (unless you make a big deal out of it) and we all need to stop acting like we're extra-super-special/underground for doing this. And of course you will be able to adopt children. That's absurd.
If you couldn't get into basic vocations like nursing, while camming, you certainly couldn't get in after stripping and I know quite a few retired strippers who are now RNs.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
vivianbear
This is ridiculous. Of course camming won't show up in a "background check" and doing sex work isn't going to impede you from getting into nursing school. Its nursing school, not the House of Representatives (and even that may be fair game). I don't know why you people feed into this fear-mongering mentality that somehow sex work is going to leave this huge stamp on your forehead for every interview you go into. Just do the work, file the taxes and don't write it down as work history, on an application. No one cares how you make your money, really. Colleges don't care, employers don't care (unless you make a big deal out of it) and we all need to stop acting like we're extra-super-special/underground for doing this. And of course you will be able to adopt children. That's absurd.
If you couldn't get into basic vocations like nursing, while camming, you certainly couldn't get in after stripping and I know quite a few retired strippers who are now RNs.
I disagree that it is fear-mongering. Choosing this life can have real possible consequences that should be considered. Working in a strip club and camming are two different things. In one of them you generally take your clothes off temporarily and the other one you generally end up recording a 'pornographic' video that you have no control of where it ends up.
I grew up in a small town and I can assure you that it has been my life experience that sex work can leave a huge stamp on your forehead depending on the size of the city you live in that will affect your ability to get a job.
Do I think that doing sex work will automagically exclude you from ever being able to become a nurse? No. But, I do think that not considering the possible future consequences of choosing to do sex work for a living would be a foolish move, indeed.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
vivianbear
This is ridiculous. Of course camming won't show up in a "background check" and doing sex work isn't going to impede you from getting into nursing school. Its nursing school, not the House of Representatives (and even that may be fair game). I don't know why you people feed into this fear-mongering mentality that somehow sex work is going to leave this huge stamp on your forehead for every interview you go into. Just do the work, file the taxes and don't write it down as work history, on an application. No one cares how you make your money, really. Colleges don't care, employers don't care (unless you make a big deal out of it) and we all need to stop acting like we're extra-super-special/underground for doing this. And of course you will be able to adopt children. That's absurd.
If you couldn't get into basic vocations like nursing, while camming, you certainly couldn't get in after stripping and I know quite a few retired strippers who are now RNs.
Yeah, it won't hurt you getting into nursing school. But it WILL definitely hurt you if video or pictures of you from a sex site ever gets released or discovered by someone you know. Especially if you work with children in any way. COMPLETELY different than stripping. Effects of camming vs stripping are completely incomparable. One is on the internet forever, the other is not.
And about the adoption thing... do you know how hard it is to adopt children already??? They randomly turn down applications for no given reason already, and it takes years, sometimes decades, and a good lawyer to be able to even attempt to adopt. The interview everyone you know. They would obviously want to know about your employment. It would be a really tough case to fight. If they find sex work, they will likely use it against you. That's just the way our society is. Yeah you can be unrealistic & think others won't care, but the fact of the matter is that they do.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GlamourRouge
And about the adoption thing... do you know how hard it is to adopt children already??? They randomly turn down applications for no given reason already, and it takes years, sometimes decades, and a good lawyer to be able to even attempt to adopt. The interview everyone you know. They would obviously want to know about your employment. It would be a really tough case to fight. If they find sex work, they will likely use it against you. That's just the way our society is. Yeah you can be unrealistic & think others won't care, but the fact of the matter is that they do.
In this case, I wonder why people like Madonna etc. are allowed to adopt children, as she has also been in some saucy videos that will be on the internet forever... And wouldn't Pamela Anderson's children be taken away? She's a naughty minx and the whole world knows it. I saw a video of Sasha Grey reading for children in a school and people were getting hysterical about it too. Boring hypocrisy.
Sorry, a little bit off topic.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
These women all have $$$^
To the OP, what I've heard about nursing, there's an overabundance of RN's I don't know if that's everywhere..have heard they use LPNs whenever possible so it's difficult to find a job..
Anyway I wish you the best of luck whatever you decided
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
I do also know of a pretty well known porn star who stopped about 5 years ago and recently got her clearance for substitute teaching and she wasn't a web girl she shot for well known porn companies and was in national mags. She also uses her first name as her stage name so I know it doesn't come up in a thorough background check,someone finding out is a different story. It could happen,people are nosey but keeping things to yourself COMPLETELY is a big part of it. Someone who is your friend now may not be in 5 years.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Lusty Laken
I don't see how camming would show up in your background checks if you are not listing it anywhere as a job? Most camming companies ask for your SSN to verify that you are LEGAL AGE. Not to file it in your job records somewhere. Even if you get a 1099 form, do you necessarily CAM?? Do you do marketing? No one looking at your future resumes can find out what you do unless YOU tell, otherwise they don't really care where you made your money in the past. As long as you don't have a felony or a history of abusing others, then I wouldn't see any reason why your nursing career could be on the line.
& In the reality of it, being discovered and developing any type of given "fame" from camming is slim to none. Unless you have some type of promotional campaign building your brand and name, then how is anyone really going to find you? Sure private streams are copied every day and there are also thousands of free clips out there floating around. I would think the chances are slim to none when it comes to being found later. Unless of course like I said, you have some type of "fame" built up during your camming career. Out of probably 90,000 cam girls, and maybe 10% of them ever becoming well known, I don't think the chances of that are very high that just any average model is going to have to worry about her future being at stake.
In my personal opinion, it isn't actually that hard to be 'found out' when you consider how few big webcam sites there are.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Lusty Laken
Adoption is more like "buying" a child. You have to have thousands of dollars down and then even more at closing. Your home is checked out, among other things. In the case that a celebrity adopted, they have lots of money and can provide a good home, so why not?
Sasha Grey reading for children in a school? Okay, that's going a little too far, sorry but can you elaborate on why she was reading for students to begin with?
It's actually very true. I remember the story a few weeks ago. She actually volunteers with the "Read Across America" program and reads books to students in elementary school. Of course, it caused an uproar among parents but it actually happened.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GlamourRouge
I agree, however, you've been camming so that means the papertrail is already out there. If you made over $600 this year, you have to report it on your taxes, and the cam company will also report it whether or not they issue you a 1099. But yes, if you ever plan to work in: education, with children, health care, politics, or various other industries that care, then you shouldn't cam. If you ever want to adopt, you shouldn't cam (I don't know if it would affect you, but it would certainly hurt your chances).
Camming is only good if: you are 100% sure you want to make it your career & plan to work as many hours as possible, you plan to start your own business, you plan to always be self-employed, and/or you will work in an industry that won't care (there are very few of these).
Wow Ive always wanted to adopt when I was financially in a good place but never thought that camming would affect that.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
dogma
In this case, I wonder why people like Madonna etc. are allowed to adopt children, as she has also been in some saucy videos that will be on the internet forever... And wouldn't Pamela Anderson's children be taken away? She's a naughty minx and the whole world knows it. I saw a video of Sasha Grey reading for children in a school and people were getting hysterical about it too. Boring hypocrisy.
Sorry, a little bit off topic.
Because they have ridiculous amounts of money to afford the best lawyers in the world. They don't make the bulk of their income from sexwork. They have pretty much unlimited time to spend with their children and can retire anytime. Having a lot of money saved up makes a huge difference.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Truebebeblue
I do also know of a pretty well known porn star who stopped about 5 years ago and recently got her clearance for substitute teaching and she wasn't a web girl she shot for well known porn companies and was in national mags. She also uses her first name as her stage name so I know it doesn't come up in a thorough background check,someone finding out is a different story. It could happen,people are nosey but keeping things to yourself COMPLETELY is a big part of it. Someone who is your friend now may not be in 5 years.
Yes but the minute someone finds out, she will be fired, blacklisted, and it will be in the news so she will never be able to work in education again. I mean, go ahead, if you want to live your whole life in fear. But in reality, its not worth the risk. Maybe if you have lots of $$$ saved up and do it because you like it. Otherwise, its taking too big of a risk.
Newsflash: Most camgirls are found out, just the people who find them out never tell. Its an awkward situation for both parties. I've been camming for about 6 months, had geolocation block on (its pretty much off now because it works selectively), and I've been found out apparently about 4 times by people who said they knew me and knew exactly where I was originally from & live now. I have no idea who any of them were. And these are the ones who have actually told me to my face (well, typed it in my camroom). Its really not that hard to get found out.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Hi Anainsa and any future ladies finding this thread. There are lots of threads about this kind of thing already. Here are a few that I found and here's how I found them. I went to Search, Advanced Search, and then searched the terms "background check", "professional job", "real job", "job future" and "future day job" (without quotes). I went to the "search in forums" box, picked Camming Connection, then held the control key on my keyboard and picked also the other subforums I thought might have that information, Dollar Den and Other Work. Then I browsed the titles to find ones that seemed relevant.
Here's just a small sampling of the most pertinent ones I found:
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ckground+check
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ckground+check
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ckground+check
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ckground+check
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ckground+check
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ckground+check
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...ckground+check
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...future+day+job
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...future+day+job
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...uture+real+job
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Wow, you people have incredibly distorted views on adoption and it's process. I'm not even going to participate in people who frame the debate as "it's basically buying a child" and something only rich people can do. Seeing as I AM adopted (as is my sister), I think I can feel confident that my expectations and potential to adopt as a sex worker is entirely realistic. You know, since I have seen the entire process play out from start to finish.
Let the hysteria resume, I suppose.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
I guess in their minds, a true 'American Idol' would NEVER take off her clothes for money. !
Can someone explain to me why 99 % of the artists ( singers) make video clips for their songs half naked,, or more then half naked?::)
The queen of pop music, Madonna and later on Britney Spears and now Lady Gaga..
dont they have most if not all of their music videos directed in a sexual manner with explicit sexual content?
Wait.. maybe im the only person in the world who sees this ::)
lol
Put some cloths on dear idols, you dont need to bare your skin to show the world that you have a good voice... or wait.. maybe you do..:O .. argh
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
vivianbear
Wow, you people have incredibly distorted views on adoption and it's process. I'm not even going to participate in people who frame the debate as "it's basically buying a child" and something only rich people can do. Seeing as I AM adopted (as is my sister), I think I can feel confident that my expectations and potential to adopt as a sex worker is entirely realistic. You know, since I have seen the entire process play out from start to finish.
Let the hysteria resume, I suppose.
I know of three wonderful and loving couple that have been hoping to adopt for years now. They are well off, but not well off enough it seems to be able to pay the amount of money needed to manage to legally adopt a child. I would be more than happy to pass on any information you have in order to get adoptions to happen faster and without excessively large amounts of money involved. I know they'd be overjoyed to find out how.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
shywebcamgirl
I know of three wonderful and loving couple that have been hoping to adopt for years now. They are well off, but not well off enough it seems to be able to pay the amount of money needed to manage to legally adopt a child. I would be more than happy to pass on any information you have in order to get adoptions to happen faster and without excessively large amounts of money involved. I know they'd be overjoyed to find out how.
Are they sex workers or just regular couples? If they're just a regular couples then that means it's hard to adopt in general and it's not a stigma just because they've been former sex workers. Adoption in general just varies. Two of my 5 nieces are adopted and I don't remember my sister fretting over the process at all. It took time but definitely not years or even a year. And she is definitely not rich. She's pretty middle-class. The only info I could pass along is if it's taking too long with one agency, try another one. There's so many out there. There''s no way I would stick it out with one if I'm not getting satisfactory results.
Back to the OP's original situation. You could do sex work and no one could ever find out or you could do it for a few months and 5 people could find out. It's just the luck of the draw. I refuse to believe that out of the tens of thousands of former sex-workers, none of them can get a job working in social work, education, medical field, etc. Like Lusty said, how can they prove you were actually a camgirl just because it says you worked for streamate. And whose going to admit they saw you on a tube video? The hiring manager? But I also know there are cases where some people have been found out so it can happen. Speaking from my personal experience, streamate nor any of my other webcam companies showed up on my most recent background check. So if it's the background part you're worried about, simply run one on yourself and see if it turns up anything. Intellius is a really good one. I actually took one to take a job in Korea so i'm not sure what company they used but it was very thorough. They pulled up jobs I forgot I had.
If the risk is not worth it for you then definitely don't do it. It's your future. But i'm just not a big fan of not doing things because of paranoia over what "could possibly maybe probably" happen. I mean if that's the case, we might as well not ride in cars anymore because we could get into a car accident. I mean it could happen but.......But yeah ultimately do what's best for you.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Well in response to the OP's original question....
I know of a girl who worked for OnHerCam for at least a year or so,
and now she works full time in the Banking industry.....so there!
Lol
No....it's not involving kids, but working for a bank DOES require working with money securely, and I'm pretty dammned sure there would be a significant background check on a person to land a job at a bank.
Just my two cents :)
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Don't they have ads and things like that at strip clubs? I don't think it would be as anonymous as you seem to put it. Like ads of feature dancers in the clubs or around town? Also, it's becoming very common to take videos and pictures in clubs etc. Would be easy to snap a pic of a dancer. And people look down on stripper as well, and there is a stigma that strippers are close to be escorts because of lapdance rooms doubling as sex rooms. I think it would be rather hard to say "oh yea that's sally" based on someones voice (your voice sounds different on cam/phone/mic vs RL) and just their body alone (unless you have distinctive marks like tattoos or birthmarks). I do feel like their is a lot of fear mongering on the boards. I totally understand this isn't a cake walk and every field that isn't 100% mainstream will get looked down on by society but all this makes it sound like you either have to be a camgirl forever or risk not getting a job or doing what you want. I get that camming is more competitive now and that some might want to scare off the new girls but there is a niche for everyone and just because there is another girl in the industry doesn't mean she can or will stealing your customers.
And with small towns everyone looks down on everyone else, they are always in everyone's business. Sue knows who slept with Lucy and blah blah. My friend lived in a small town and I only visited there cuz it was close to mine and EVERYONE knew all my personal business and things are never kept secret small. Things like I fooled around with and tried to have sex with a guy turned into me giving him a BJ infront of a room full of people (which I didn't) and that girl who was he's girlfriend (I asked him like 5 times if he had a GF and he denied it) came up to my sister and said that to her at a work party. Fact is stuff follows you around period. You were slutty in high school? Someone will remember in 20 years and if you get famous etc someone will be on tv telling the media how big a slut you were. And Frenchie was on The Voice recently so she wasn't completely blacklisted in Hollywood. American Idol is VERY picky about their image because it's suppose to represent america *Eyes rolls* and that's in their contract that they can't have that kind of stuff in their past.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
lolalust
I think it would be rather hard to say "oh yea that's sally" based on someones voice (your voice sounds different on cam/phone/mic vs RL) and just their body alone (unless you have distinctive marks like tattoos or birthmarks). I do feel like their is a lot of fear mongering on the boards..
Yeah I wasn't sure how someone could be identified from their body alone either unless the person has memorized what you look like naked.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
I am in a similar position with deciding whether or not to start camming because of how it may affect other jobs in the future after I finish my degree. I found this website and I think you guys may find it helpful. After reading down through all the information they have up, it put my mind to ease a little bit....It has a list of what can and cannot be included on a background check...Hope this helps...
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
They are just regular couples wanting to adopt. They have been waiting for years. I am in Canada, so I am not exactly sure how our adoption process varies from the USA. I do know that they all have been trying for years, and it has cost them a lot of money just to *try* to adopt with no success. :-\
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Avamonet
Are they sex workers or just regular couples? If they're just a regular couples then that means it's hard to adopt in general and it's not a stigma just because they've been former sex workers. Adoption in general just varies. Two of my 5 nieces are adopted and I don't remember my sister fretting over the process at all. It took time but definitely not years or even a year. And she is definitely not rich. She's pretty middle-class. The only info I could pass along is if it's taking too long with one agency, try another one. There's so many out there. There''s no way I would stick it out with one if I'm not getting satisfactory results.
Back to the OP's original situation. You could do sex work and no one could ever find out or you could do it for a few months and 5 people could find out. It's just the luck of the draw. I refuse to believe that out of the tens of thousands of former sex-workers, none of them can get a job working in social work, education, medical field, etc. Like Lusty said, how can they prove you were actually a camgirl just because it says you worked for streamate. And whose going to admit they saw you on a tube video? The hiring manager? But I also know there are cases where some people have been found out so it can happen. Speaking from my personal experience, streamate nor any of my other webcam companies showed up on my most recent background check. So if it's the background part you're worried about, simply run one on yourself and see if it turns up anything. Intellius is a really good one. I actually took one to take a job in Korea so i'm not sure what company they used but it was very thorough. They pulled up jobs I forgot I had.
If the risk is not worth it for you then definitely don't do it. It's your future. But i'm just not a big fan of not doing things because of paranoia over what "could possibly maybe probably" happen. I mean if that's the case, we might as well not ride in cars anymore because we could get into a car accident. I mean it could happen but.......But yeah ultimately do what's best for you.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
lolalust
I do feel like their is a lot of fear mongering on the boards. I totally understand this isn't a cake walk and every field that isn't 100% mainstream will get looked down on by society but all this makes it sound like you either have to be a camgirl forever or risk not getting a job or doing what you want. I get that camming is more competitive now and that some might want to scare off the new girls but there is a niche for everyone and just because there is another girl in the industry doesn't mean she can or will stealing your customers.
Um, what?
How is it 'fear-mongering' to tell the OP that they should make sure to weigh all the pros and cons of this industry before starting it?
And second of all, how did you make the jump to 'anyone who gives this advice must not be trying to be helpful at all and are obviously giving this advice because they are trying to scare new girls off because they are threatened that they are going to steal their customers?' That is the part truly baffles me.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
I'm not an expert on adoption agencies but they can also use the yelp.com service to search for credible adoption agencies. Around my area there are adoption agencies listed on yelp.com with reviews, not sure about Canada though but it's like a yellow page service with consumer reviews so if they didn't find luck with one they can try another.
-
Re: Super Sad and I think this is goodbye
Quote:
Originally Posted by
LaurenAus
Yeah I wasn't sure how someone could be identified from their body alone either unless the person has memorized what you look like naked.
Tattoos, freckles, body shape. I know for a fact you'd be able to tell it was me even if I hid my face. Unless I went around wearing turtlenecks 24/7.