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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
Lovelyme
AMEN!
I don't know who started this "verified" shit but it's just that---- "bullshit". SMH!
the verified section is for ppl who actively cam and to keep important info between models specifically. it's not about keeping info from CC. too many of you have the wrong idea of what the verified section is all about. h0ttie posted the requirements in a thread, so if any of you meet the said requirements can join. this verified drama needs to end, causing trouble where there doesn't need to be. sorry for threadjack OP.
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
Free chat is sucking the life of these sites!!!!! Not only do we need to work hard on the cam, but we need to create a niche and figure how to promote ourselves. We have to do all the work in this industry to earn money and to attract customers. Figure out your plan :)
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:rotfl:lmao they find ....Good business practice as a Click type of thing? ....anyone believe that .....I have a GREAT Multi-level Marketing business for you!!!
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
LadyCoco
Free chat is sucking the life of these sites!!!!! Not only do we need to work hard on the cam, but we need to create a niche and figure how to promote ourselves. We have to do all the work in this industry to earn money and to attract customers. Figure out your plan :)
Im not sure....but dont you mean free shows? cause freechat is just text chat....its the free shows I believe is what you meant....maybe I'm Wrong.
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
Probably meant the free-for-all shows because the guys expect too much now.
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
bubblegumbitch
the verified section is for ppl who actively cam and to keep important info between models specifically. it's not about keeping info from CC. too many of you have the wrong idea of what the verified section is all about. h0ttie posted the requirements in a thread, so if any of you meet the said requirements can join. this verified drama needs to end, causing trouble where there doesn't need to be. sorry for threadjack OP.
Ok.
I'll just start a members area for girls that aren't apart of the verified group but
could use the useful information. Think about it -- if they were not camgirls
they would not need the information.
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Originally Posted by
HaydenBlue
Bless your little heart. :)
Same to you.
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
Getting verified is like pulling teeth for something so simple.
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Originally Posted by
LadyCoco
Getting verified is like pulling teeth for something so simple.
i put verification on hold for a day or two, until we figure something out.
but way to be rude about it!!! ;D
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Okay, some don't understand Verified Means VERIFIED!....a few links simply isn't enough ....
we are re-evaluating our own ranks.....
You know if someone was actually ever ON CAM.... you feel us?
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Thanks for the post one post wonder. If you do ever return please do paragraphs, be so much easier to read. x
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Originally Posted by
_Avery_
Rudeness seems to be "the thing" on this side of the board..lol
Selling yourself (or an image of yourself) + lack of human interaction IRL = people start reallyyy losing it.
(IsobelWren put it much more eloquently in another thread but I think it got deleted or locked cause drama had already started spilling out)
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
I do not necessarily agree with the OP opinion that if a million girls race to sign up for any given site, it is going to kill another cammers numbers. Sorry, I have been in this since 1998, and the most money I made was when there were 3000 girls online at iFriends.
The forums were abuzz with, chicken little attitudes about the sky falling and blocking new sign ups... etc etc. Sorry, but, that isn't the problem. Cam girls come and go. New ones sign up thinking they are going to be making thousands a week because they read it on the site or maybe in a forum, and then find out just how much crap you need to put up with or TIME, yes TIME you have to sit in front of the cam, missing out on life. Then come the tax issues and the inconsistent income..one week you make a ton, next week it's like you were hit with the ugly stick. Most CANNOT handle it and go back to the *real world* of being a worker bee for someone else because that is security and they like it. No problem with that.
I have never seen a TOP cam girl not attract clients. If you have what it takes, you are going to make money. Period. I am also an online psychic/astrologer and cannot tell you how many times other readers get bent out of shape when *too many readers are signing up ...* What are they afraid of? If they are doing a good job, their clients will return with new questions.
Same goes for the new cam girls. Some are popular hosts from old sites who BRING their clients to the new sites they join! Do you really think those guys don't surf other girls and buy shows if their girl isn't on? A GOOD cam girl who brings or has regulars is GOOD for a site. Whether webmasters are plastering her image all over the net with a link back to the site she is on, or she brings them herself, these guys venture out and visit others. This is a GOOD thing!
The lazy, I want to get rich quick girls will fall by the wayside and be gone. I don't see anything wrong with giving general help in here. You don't have to give your secrets etc. Don't answer if you don't like the question. Pretty simple.
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And this is the reason why I don't want to move away from my highly dysfunctional family even though they majorly mess with my camming schedule etc. ;D
Idk how people who live completely alone do it...
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This is a tough industry and the competition is huge, but it's no reason to not be kind to others. Some girls are gonna make it and some aren't. That's just how it is. All you can do is try your best.
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
bubblegumbitch
the verified section is for ppl who actively cam and to keep important info between models specifically. it's not about keeping info from CC. too many of you have the wrong idea of what the verified section is all about. h0ttie posted the requirements in a thread, so if any of you meet the said requirements can join. this verified drama needs to end, causing trouble where there doesn't need to be. sorry for threadjack OP.
LMAO I know! All the posts are, are things like "look at these pics of me on my horse!!", "this is what's going on in my personal life", "stay away from this site because they stopped paying me and here was my experience", "which tax company do you personally use?", and "check out this helpful promo site!"
So WHY do people hate the Verified group so much??? All it is, is like a giant diary of personal experiences and girls networking + getting to know one another. Shit people don't want to post publicly. Not because its ~*highly classified information*~, but rather because a MOD in camming connection would remove most of the threads because they are POINTLESS if posted in Camming Connection majority of the time.
Studios will not benefit if they join the Verified group. Trust me, there's a million times more helpful info in Camming Connection. Trolls will not benefit if they join the Verified group. They can troll a million times better out here. Men will not benefit if they join the Verified group. Its equivalent to me going to read a techie forum. No one cares what people they have nothing in common with, have to say. MODs will not benefit if they join the Verified group. There has literally NEVER been ANY drama inside the Verified group. The end.
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
JuliAnne333
I do not necessarily agree with the OP opinion that if a million girls race to sign up for any given site, it is going to kill another cammers numbers. Sorry, I have been in this since 1998, and the most money I made was when there were 3000 girls online at iFriends.
The forums were abuzz with, chicken little attitudes about the sky falling and blocking new sign ups... etc etc. Sorry, but, that isn't the problem. Cam girls come and go. New ones sign up thinking they are going to be making thousands a week because they read it on the site or maybe in a forum, and then find out just how much crap you need to put up with or TIME, yes TIME you have to sit in front of the cam, missing out on life. Then come the tax issues and the inconsistent income..one week you make a ton, next week it's like you were hit with the ugly stick. Most CANNOT handle it and go back to the *real world* of being a worker bee for someone else because that is security and they like it. No problem with that.
I have never seen a TOP cam girl not attract clients. If you have what it takes, you are going to make money. Period. I am also an online psychic/astrologer and cannot tell you how many times other readers get bent out of shape when *too many readers are signing up ...* What are they afraid of? If they are doing a good job, their clients will return with new questions.
Same goes for the new cam girls. Some are popular hosts from old sites who BRING their clients to the new sites they join! Do you really think those guys don't surf other girls and buy shows if their girl isn't on? A GOOD cam girl who brings or has regulars is GOOD for a site. Whether webmasters are plastering her image all over the net with a link back to the site she is on, or she brings them herself, these guys venture out and visit others. This is a GOOD thing!
The lazy, I want to get rich quick girls will fall by the wayside and be gone. I don't see anything wrong with giving general help in here. You don't have to give your secrets etc. Don't answer if you don't like the question. Pretty simple.
Thank you. Someone who actually has had longevity in this field. I'm glad to read your post, all though things are good i worry about the longevity of a cam career as well as the industry and am happy to hear it still is working for you. Yeah, it's getting more competitive but every industry is getting more competitive. The strong, the qualified, the ones that have a good product to offer will survive, and those who can't keep up will get weeded out. That's why I like discussing the new trends, the direction of the industry and it's main sites and just get overall general support from people in my field. This is my job, i want to be a master at my craft, and a lot of times brainstorming and seeing other perspectives help. Everyone's complaining, but my numbers are booming, so i don't care what anyone posts and am not too worried about the influx of girls. I'm sure of my shit and if anything i want to help these noobies out so they realize it's not about bending over and fucking yourself for 10 bucks because when they do that shit, it makes it harder for me.
CC and Other Work have dealt with this before. At one point there were the veterans, and a lot of the people complaining today were the noobies that the vets argued with. A lot of those vets are gone now, and the vets of today are the noobies of yesterday. A lot of the "vets" are posting less now, and i'm seeing some noobies get ballsier and start acting like veterans. Like really, who cares. This information isn't guarded, secret information. And that's why it's posted on a public forum.
It just looks shiesty to me because everyone learns from everyone, but there's some people who do let greed get to them and they change from being a community member, to MINE MINE MINE! Like damn, okay, scared money aint gonna make money.
If you don't want to participate because it's counterproductive, then why are you a member? Just chime in when you wanna get into discussion, and ignore us when the topic turns to anything that may give your precious secrets away.
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I think people are about that with the verified group because it seems kind of clique-y. The meaning of the verified group was supposed to be just a place for camgirls to feel comfortable in a small community without non-camgirls and random strangers looking on on the conversation. Kind of like a safe haven. But I feel like things have gotten out of control. I know the other day I posted in the SM is not dead thread about Livejasmin. I did it as a joke, I was drinking a little on cam, joking around with some of the girls, and I was just laughing and being silly. But now I regret it. It seems nowadays I want all us girls to be like, "yeah! Let's work, girls! And talk and have fun and get through the work day together!" But it's more like. ."this person is a troll, I bet this girl is dirty and a spy, this person is the one that is wrong. why did she post that like OMGZ." People on the outside have no idea what is going on, and it feels uncomfortable with them. And I can totally understand that. We are all supposed to be in this together. Internet bullying and worrying too much about the forums is going to get nowhere. Spending the extra time working and camming, sharing business tips and stories with other camgirls, and having a nice group of support while you are working WILL get somewhere! But I'm going to stop right there because I know I'm probably going to get some lengthy post contradicting what I just said, so I'm just going to stop right there. Nothing against anybody. . I just wish people would stop worrying about what is said on the forum and move on to better things. Amen!
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
SweetPinkCupcake
I think people are about that with the verified group because it seems kind of clique-y.
There are well over 100 girls in that group. I wouldn't say its cliquey. Maybe if you've been on SW less than a month, you might think so.
And WHAT about chatzy??? Sorry, but no one is talking about trolls or anything like that, and I've been in there for hours today. No one has even mentioned it. Was yesterday for like 2 hours your only time in chatzy ever? The stuff you mentioned is not what goes on inside chatzy.
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I don't think cupcake was saying she viewed it as "cliquey" i think she was referring to others.
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I think another thing that's been causing confusion for new people on the forum about the verified group is that not everyone in the group has hottie's butterfly graphic in their signature, so just because someone doesn't have it doesn't mean they're NOT verified. I notice that the first mention of verified in this thread is someone agreeing with xfatrabbitx's statement AGAINST what the OP said, and then adding that the "verified shit" is "bullshit". This seems odd to me, because the OP is NOT in the verified group, but xfatrabbitx IS.
I think that, because a couple members from the verified group have started saying things vocally about protecting a lot of camming info/secrets from the main forum, that it's looking to new posters here like EVERYONE in the verified group feels that way. This is NOT the case, as many in the verified group are all for sharing info with the main forum (and DO so regularly). In fact, a lot of the posters arguing AGAINST those who want to keep info in the verified section away from CC, are in fact ALSO in the verified group but just don't have it in their siggy.
Many (and maybe most) of the members of the verified group, including me, joined it not to hoard all our secrets from everyone out here, but to have a place where we knew only real camgirls would be posting, so we could talk about personal things without hundreds of lurkers and trolls seeing it.
When I first came to this forum, I had no opinion about the verified group, or if people should join or not. But after being here for months and seeing countless troll attacks on CC, by MEN posing as women and acting normal for a while, then letting loose with hatred against women and camgirls, I decided to join verified to escape all the BS and post things in a safe environment. Many use it for that, and/or to have a place to post their specific earnings (which they don't want to post out here because they've been camming a long time, make a lot of money, and don't want to post them publicly and create a false idea that such earnings are typical for this industry, and make it look to all the lurkers on here that camming is a get-rich-quick gig).
By the way, I'm not saying everyone who's verified should add the graphic to their siggy, as its only a matter of personal preference. And I TOTALLY understand why some have even removed it over the past few days to avoid being associated with the drama that a couple members have created.
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
HaydenBlue
Bless your little heart. :)
I have some very sweet ta to go with that.
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Oh, and I also forgot to add (as if my last post in here wasn't already long enough, lol) that as far as drama and shit-talking goes, I've seen MUCH more of it in this main forum than I've ever seen in the verified group or in chatzy. It's like drama city out here, which is why I stopped posting a lot out here over the past month. In the verified group, even when people disagree, they're respectful about it. But out here, it's like open season for rudeness. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the drama out here is all the fault of non-verified people, because it seems like lately a couple verified members are coming out here to pick fights and start shit. But those couple people don't represent all of us.
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I only cam part time and am looking for a mainstream job right now which is why I dont join the verified group ( I just dont think I'd have much to add to it lol) and Im pretty laid back and mind my own business. The only time I get a bit concerned about issues brought up on here is when someone posts a thread about a breach in privacy or something else that is serious....like a site showing personal information, then when people get worried and want to know info about it people start saying "dont post this in here...just put it in verified"
I completely understand about not wanting info given out for trolls to see,( I dont want them knowing about my private life) especially with something that is so personal but there are girls that dont meet the requirements yet to join the group and they're just left with no info and alot of anxiety.
Damn those trolls....they break my happy ;)
As for the OP...I agree that the sites are over saturated and for sure when a new one is mentioned alot of girls start signing up but if they dont put in the hard work to succeed on it then they just bounce to another one.
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
xfatrabbitx
I'm sure of my shit and if anything i want to help these noobies out so they realize it's not about bending over and fucking yourself for 10 bucks because when they do that shit, it makes it harder for me.
WORD!