Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
..............sweet sisterhood of the traveling pants lol oh my god let's just go out and make some money
Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
Hi. My reply may get shot down as I do not consider myself a 'cam girl' but I have dabbled in it some during my time as a dancer. I believe the same types of issues come up....including how much info to divulge. Yes it is a good feeling to help people and be involved in a community, but as the OP said, I believe in looking after yourself first! There is no need to be snubby, but I think it is plain ignorant as well as shortsighted to assume the size of this site has/had NO affect on the adult industry as a whole (camming, dancing, escorting, ALL).
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Originally Posted by
MissKatie
It's very tiring when the verified bullshit starts coming out over again. Those of us in that section should know better than to bother arguing when people bitch about it.. if they don't want to make the effort to get verified, or disagree with it for whatever reason then fine, whatever. We know what it's for and what it isn't.
And actually I agree with the intention of this post. When I joined SW I was of the mind that a couple of girls had really helped me, so i wanted to do the same for others. I still do where possible, but i quickly learned that giving away all my trade secrets is counter productive. You lose out ££££ wise when girls start signing up to your site, even if they're no threat to you personally, they are still helping to oversaturate the market. Besides, most camgirls with their heads screwed on have already tried out a site or two and knows the basics, before they join SW. The ones who will last don't need spoon feeding and generally won't ask for it.
So right on. Same goes for dancers.... I was a dancer for a few months before I knew about SW. I was never "spoon feed", rather I describe my first day as 'thrown with the sharks'. By the time I had googled 'stripper forums' (btw finding this site is damn near easy), I had already known how to hustle hard. This site exposed me to other advanced techniques and camming info ---I didn't even KNOW about camming until I discovered this site!!! I was lurker for a few steady years before I joined. At that time I considered myself somewhat experienced. I wanted to share info and become a part of the community.
I don't find offense to the verified sections and think they are great. It would be nice to have a private site LOL like the old facebook was, where only students could join.
I imagine that would be difficult though...
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LadyCoco
Free chat is sucking the life of these sites!!!!! Not only do we need to work hard on the cam, but we need to create a niche and figure how to promote ourselves. We have to do all the work in this industry to earn money and to attract customers. Figure out your plan :)
This. Is what should be focused on. As a dancer/camgirl, the club/site is not as money-generating as to how well you can find your niche, promote yourself...in other words, hustle.
As to the OP, "there ARE plenty of other things to talk about". If you notice, many of the stripping sections don't mention clubs. There is a club connection but it's not as active and divulging anyone's location/club/money is deemed 'rude'. I don't deem it rude necessarily but respect mine and other's privacy. What IS discussed are industry-related issues, techniques, situations/stories, etc. I think that is good enough.
There's my :twocents:
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
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Originally Posted by
Artema
Hi. My reply may get shot down as I do not consider myself a 'cam girl' but I have dabbled in it some during my time as a dancer. I believe the same types of issues come up....including how much info to divulge. Yes it is a good feeling to help people and be involved in a community, but as the OP said, I believe in looking after yourself first! There is no need to be snubby, but I think it is plain ignorant as well as shortsighted to assume the size of this site has/had NO affect on the adult industry as a whole (camming, dancing, escorting, ALL).
Amen Artema!!! AMEN!.....and some of these people screaming big $$$ are flat out lying ....and have a very sneaky game they are playing.
Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
let me just say this to the original poster who made a new account just to enlighten everybody.
being greedy is bad karma.
I dont get it why the OP did not post with their regular username.
Would have made no difference to(most) all of us.
Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
I am new to this... haven't started, but plan to in the next month. I've been reading this site for awhile, and honestly this is just to be expected of any forum where women congregate. I was a member of a pregnancy forum years ago with similar drama (trolls, fakers...cliques...etc). As a new member who is here to LEARN shit, get INSPIRED, and chat with other like-minded ladies I have to say it is disappointing. This is my first post and I really don't feel like going through the gauntlet of b.s. I guess I'm not a "real camgirl" yet, but I'm certainly not a woman-hating man or a troll and I guess my point is it would be nice if ALL of SW could be like what the "verified" section must be like..../:O
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Kayden
Selling yourself (or an image of yourself) + lack of human interaction IRL = people start reallyyy losing it.
hahaha. this is hysterical and or so true!!!!!!!
Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
If someone wants to join Verified, it's there, it's open for anyone who can prove she's a camgirl. If someone doesn't want to join, don't. Simple as that. If someone wants to think we're some kind of secret society Illuminati bs, go ahead and think that. Mainly all SW can't be like Verified because of the lurkers and studios and because maybe not all the girls are comfortable posting their bunny and horse pictures here in the open for anyone to see. See GR's post: we post personal stuff there, things about tax and other stuff, really, GR's post describes it perfectly. We're NOT keeping any infos from anyone, well, yes, we are keeping infos from trolls, I think that's not a bad thing. Anyone can join and see for themselves or continue to think that we're not just some likeminded people chatting around but we're like the Freemasons, only worse. I don't mean to fight with anyone, I just want this drama to end. REALLY. And let's go make some $$$$$ :)
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**Off the topic post on this thread**
But I had to say GlamourRouge I LOVE the dolphin tits, made me laugh lots.
Carry on debating....
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Originally Posted by
JuliAnne333
I do not necessarily agree with the OP opinion that if a million girls race to sign up for any given site, it is going to kill another cammers numbers. Sorry, I have been in this since 1998, and the most money I made was when there were 3000 girls online at iFriends.
The forums were abuzz with, chicken little attitudes about the sky falling and blocking new sign ups... etc etc. Sorry, but, that isn't the problem. Cam girls come and go. New ones sign up thinking they are going to be making thousands a week because they read it on the site or maybe in a forum, and then find out just how much crap you need to put up with or TIME, yes TIME you have to sit in front of the cam, missing out on life. Then come the tax issues and the inconsistent income..one week you make a ton, next week it's like you were hit with the ugly stick. Most CANNOT handle it and go back to the *real world* of being a worker bee for someone else because that is security and they like it. No problem with that.
I have never seen a TOP cam girl not attract clients. If you have what it takes, you are going to make money. Period. I am also an online psychic/astrologer and cannot tell you how many times other readers get bent out of shape when *too many readers are signing up ...* What are they afraid of? If they are doing a good job, their clients will return with new questions.
Same goes for the new cam girls. Some are popular hosts from old sites who BRING their clients to the new sites they join! Do you really think those guys don't surf other girls and buy shows if their girl isn't on? A GOOD cam girl who brings or has regulars is GOOD for a site. Whether webmasters are plastering her image all over the net with a link back to the site she is on, or she brings them herself, these guys venture out and visit others. This is a GOOD thing!
The lazy, I want to get rich quick girls will fall by the wayside and be gone. I don't see anything wrong with giving general help in here. You don't have to give your secrets etc. Don't answer if you don't like the question. Pretty simple.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
I keep very detailed records of my time spent online and my earnings and it's pretty consistent and evens out no matter how many new girls/holidays/excuse excuse excuse there is about how dead/slow/great/awesome whatever it is for everyone else! If you have what it takes you WILL make money. PERIOD. THE. END.
Problem is, EVERYONE thinks they "have what it takes" and very few actually DO.
Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
I highly recommend "How to Survive and Prosper as an Artist"--there's a section on pricing and scarcity. Just replace "Artist" with "Cam Girl" every time it comes up.
Re: A true example of why being greedy in this industry will benefit you
Im wondering what the real problem is. Why is it so slow? I remember when me and my hubby first started on SM we would not leave Pvt we had to log of to get a break.Now its like blahhh We are bored out of our minds.We could make $400.00 a night 6 months ago no problem now we are lucky to make 100.00+.