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My site is blacked out today. I'm happy to take part in this protest!
Your idealism is appreciated ... even if it winds up 'costing' you potentially increased earnings as a US based camgirl !!! KarinaGizelle, myself, and all other non-US resident camgirls will happily continue to 'pocket' money earned from US webcam customers that could otherwise have been 'reserved' for you if SOPA passes !!!
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how does blocking 4 chan or reddit help keep americas money in america?? i dont understand the purpose of blocking websites that people love...
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you know what, i DONT want to live in america if this is ends up being a reality, even though it supposedly helps US camgirls. ... when i report my income, i report it on turbotax as a modeling 'hobby' or gig, which it is since i dont do it regularly. ... no specific names or details, and the site i used is foreign. if the actual business sent out tax forms every year, and i filed my taxes that way... then any future job that i may want can just do a background check and be like "oh this person worked in the adult adult industry" and they'd probably hire me so they can subject me to harrassment.
i'll take the paycut for freedom. theres adult jobs in every country. prostitution is the oldest profession. if there wasnt camming, you could still give handjobs for 200$ a half hour.
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the Netherlands, Belgium, and others have already followed suit. they all strongly support the US' decision with SOPA unfortunately and have already started banning websites and trying to pass laws.
Pirate Bay (major torrent site) speaks out
INTERNETS, 18th of January 2012.
PRESS RELEASE, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE.
Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would "do for the eye what the phonograph does for
the ear". He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person
to own the copyright to a motion picture.
Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures
in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call
Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent.
There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them - like
Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.
So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they
circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: "stole") other peoples creative works,
without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they're all successful and most of the
studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations - it's all based on being
able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create.
If you want to get something released, you have to abide to their rules. The ones they created after circumventing
other peoples rules.
The reason they are always complainting about "pirates" today is simple. We've done what they did. We circumvented the
rules they created and created our own. We crushed their monopoly by giving people something more efficient. We allow
people to have direct communication between eachother, circumventing the profitable middle man, that in some cases take
over 107% of the profits (yes, you pay to work for them).
It's all based on the fact that we're competition.
We've proven that their existance in their current form is no longer needed. We're just better than they are.
And the funny part is that our rules are very similar to the founding ideas of the USA. We fight for freedom of speech.
We see all people as equal. We believe that the public, not the elite, should rule the nation. We believe that laws
should be created to serve the public, not the rich corporations.
The Pirate Bay is truly an international community. The team is spread all over the globe - but we've stayed out of the
USA. We have Swedish roots and a swedish friend said this:
The word SOPA means "trash" in Swedish. The word PIPA means "a pipe" in Swedish. This is of course not a coincidence.
They want to make the internet inte a one way pipe, with them at the top, shoving trash through the pipe down to the
rest of us obedient consumers.
The public opinion on this matter is clear. Ask anyone on the street and you'll learn that noone wants to be fed with
trash. Why the US government want the american people to be fed with trash is beyond our imagination but we hope that
you will stop them, before we all drown.
SOPA can't do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we'll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the
hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to
mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really.
To fix the "problem of piracy" one should go to the source of the problem. The entertainment industry say they're
creating "culture" but what they really do is stuff like selling overpriced plushy dolls and making 11 year old girls
become anorexic. Either from working in the factories that creates the dolls for basically no salary or by watching
movies and tv shows that make them think that they're fat.
In the great Sid Meiers computer game Civilization you can build Wonders of the world. One of the most powerful ones
is Hollywood. With that you control all culture and media in the world. Rupert Murdoch was happy with MySpace and had
no problems with their own piracy until it failed. Now he's complainting that Google is the biggest source of piracy
in the world - because he's jealous. He wants to retain his mind control over people and clearly you'd get a more
honest view of things on Wikipedia and Google than on Fox News.
Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information
when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.
THE PIRATE BAY, (K)2012
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i dont understand the purpose of blocking websites that people love...
In truth, the re-write of SOPA will completely drop the 'blocking' provisions for foreign website access. This provision was short-sighted, and indeed would raise questions about internet censorship that allows certain parties to equate the US to China where outright 'blocking' is concerned. Once objections began to be raised, the lawmakers took a second look, and discovered that the backers of SOPA really don't care if US web surfers can access foreign websites or not. What the backers DO care about, and what the re-written SOPA law will still provide for, is preventing US web surfer customers from spending money at foreign websites !!!
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alys it's not just the US. If the US passes these bills, other major countries will follow suit. Besides which, these bills won't just affect your income as a camgirl, they will affect your online shopping, entertainment
Yes, absolutely. The online credit card transaction blocking provisions of SOPA will potentially take away the option of US customers purchasing ( lower priced / better value ) goods and services from foreign websites. Of course the backers of SOPA would point out that a major reason foreign websites are able to undersell US competitor websites is that the foreign websites don't have to pay US taxes !
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if the actual business sent out tax forms every year, and i filed my taxes that way... then any future job that i may want can just do a background check and be like "oh this person worked in the adult adult industry"
You can absolutely count on this happening ... motivated by IRS desire to collect every possible dollar in US income taxes. The fact that this will also create a 'paper trail' documenting the fact that you have worked in the 'adult industry' is an unintended consequence ... but in truth nobody in the US gov't really gives a s#!t if 'porn girls' experience increased difficulty in remaining anonymous.
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interesting reaction to yesterday's 'blackout' ... a potentially much more serious 'boycott'
from
(snip)"Internet sites on their SOPA-Strike may be conducting a blackout but Hollywood studios are conducting a boycott. I’ve learned that Hollywood studio chiefs individually and as a group are drawing a line in the sand on the piracy issue with the Obama re-election campaign and refusing to give any more donations. The blowup came after President Obama on Saturday dashed moguls’ hopes that he would remain on the sidelines in the dispute over the U.S. House Of Representatives’ Stop Online Piracy Act and the U.S. Senate’s Protect IP Act. In a posting on the White House web site, three of the Obama administration’s top officials for Internet and intellectual property matters said that they share many of the concerns that the Internet community has about the Hollywood-supported bills. (snip)
(snip)"But Hollywood moguls told me they “didn’t know it was going to be as over the top as it was” and took this as a declaration of war. “We just feel very let down by the administration and Obama for not supporting us,” one studio chief explained to me. “At least let him remain neutral and not go against it until we can get the legislation right. But Obama went against it. I’m personally not going to support him anymore and not give a dime anymore,” another movie mogul who’s also a well-known Obama supporter told me this week."(snip)
(snip)The boycott even extends to many of the moguls’ families who also are big Obama and Democratic Party donors. The situation is serious because many moguls and/or their families comprise Obama’s top bundlers in the TV/movie/music biz. Bundlers as defined by opensecrets.org are “people with friends in high places who, after bumping against personal contribution limits, turn to those friends, associates, and, well, anyone who’s willing to give, and deliver the checks to the candidate in one big ‘bundle’.” These donors direct more money to the candidates than anyone else. As of September 2011 these 357 elite bundlers were directing at least $55,900,000 for Obama’s re-election efforts — money that has gone into the coffers of his campaign as well as the Democratic National Committee, according to opensecrets.org. That figure by now has significantly increased and will continue to do so.(snip)
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There's still the money from Silicon Valley so... I wouldn't be worried.
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Apparently, there was a huge backing off by legislators because of the blackouts. I think it was a big sign to them that the general public is starting to take notice and bad publicity can ruin their careers. No one will vote for some one they don't see as supportive of the citizen's own interests. But I digress, seeing as "money makes the world go round" and America is a prime example.
Part of me wants to get on a soap box in the street with a megaphone and shout out to passersby exactly what a copyright is and how a majority of people who actually make these "illegal downloads" are not using the content illegally. But then I'd be afraid of being arrested and shipped off to some newer version of Guantanamo indefinitely without trial under the NDAA. So instead, I just blacked out all identifiable features of my FB display picture with a black rectangle that says "Censored in accordance with SOPA/PIPA" and have explained to anyone who will listen that, if bills like SOPA/PIPA pass, it will technically be illegal for me to post photos of myself without me and every viewer paying my dancer persona to see it.
Overall, if bills like this pass, it means a world of hurt for anyone who has internet access.
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Megaupload just closed their site. I hope some of you don't have accounts there :/ Is this a sign?
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^^ I came here to post this.. Megaupload (and Megavideo which I use all the time :() have been shut down and the site's founders have been charged. Goddammit.
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^^^ as posted earlier, there are already US laws on the books that allow for the prosecution of copyright violating websites, or websites which are 'accessories' to copyright violations by failing to prevent user originated content which contains copyright violations from being uploaded and retransmitted via their website. However, as in the MegaUpload case, where foreign corporations / web servers are involved, they presently require working through the WTO as well as law enforcement agencies in those foreign countries. The SOPA law would allow for a much lower key approach ... of simply cutting off the money flow from US customers to copyright violating foreign websites without having to resort to ( or bear the costs of ) international prosecution.
Also, undoubtedly, the timing of the MegaUpload warrants was no coincidence.
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There's still the money from Silicon Valley so... I wouldn't be worried
But Silicon Valley won't have anywhere near as much money if the SOPA supporting media companies start publicizing the fact that Silicon Valley profits now depend on Chinese 'slave labor' plus ridiculously generous US tax 'loopholes'.
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talk about dumb-ass ...
(snip)"Anonymous has sure been quiet lately, but today's federal bust of Megaupload riled 'em up good: a retaliatory strike against DoJ.gov (and plenty of other foes) leaving them completely dead.
DownForEveryoneOrJustMe.com is reporting the department's site as universally nuked, and an Anonymous-affiliated Twitter account is boasting success. This is almost certainly the result of a quickly-assembled DDoS attack—and easily the widest in scope and ferocity we've seen in some time. If you had any doubts Anonymous is still a hacker wrecking ball, doubt no more.
The combination of the hacking nebula's SOPA animosity—they've been a vocal opponent of the bill since its inception—combined with today's sudden Megaupload news has made the group bubble over: hundreds upon hundreds of Anon operatives are in a plotting frenzy, chatting about which site will go down next. In Anon's eyes, the government and media interests are responsible for the undue destruction of Megaupload (and the arrest of four of its operators), so it'll be exactly those entities that're feeling the pain right now. Pretty much every company that makes movies, TV, or music, along with the entirety of the federal government, is in Anonymous' crosshairs."(snip)
a commenter at the linked site summed up the likely result better than I can ...
(snip) I really hope these sites don't try to use this as fodder with congress. It could be easy to paint anti-SOPA protests as pirates and hackers. Scaring old people can lead to quickly passed laws.(snip)
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Oh, how my heart goes out to Anon.
As some one who takes a very strong position on the idea that extremist acts only hurt your cause, I am disappointed. Americans will view this exactly as that quoted comment says they will. But as some who believes anything worth having is worth fighting for to the end, I applaud them. They are brave enough to do the things that others aren't.
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