Re: Why do you ask customers personal questions??
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Originally Posted by
rickdugan
I can only figure that it must be a function of the types of clubs that I tend to visit, which are more local in nature. In the clubs that I usually frequent, regulars seem to be a meaningful part of many girls' incomes and it is not uncommon to see girls sitting with customers for extended periods of time. Under these circumstances, how could anyone possibly avoid conversations which touch upon personal matters? Heck, many girls in these places are very ready to volunteer a variety of facts about their lives - sometimes too much - in order, I suspect, to try to build a rapport with their customers.
I agree with this but I also think it's a function of age and experience as well. As a rule, I find that older dancers are more comfortable with their hustle and also much more adept at making innocuous small talk. There are plenty of conversation topics that don't revolve around personal information. Now, does it bother me when a girl does ask? No, not particularly but what does annoy the heck out of me is when they babble on incessantly about their personal lives...
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^ Yep... exactly Yoda... I work at a "regulars" club... Some I know personal info about but thats because they shared it with me... for the most part I don't know if they are married, if they have kids, where they live, what they do for work - the kind of stuff people don't want to talk about.
I do know - what they like to do in their free time i.e.. hobbies. Places they've travelled and where they would like to go next. What kind of music they listen to. What kind of food they like to eat.. etc. etc. Its easy to make conversation that is interesting without talking about stuff that is personal. If they bring it up, then no problem.
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I would agree with personal questions but they should always know why you are there....questions are good thats the hustle. If not just collect your $20 & leave.
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"Pass go and collect $200" hahaha.
Yeah, I suppose I could see personal questions being more appropriate in a 'regular's" type club...
Mind you, I LOATHE regulars and have generally tried to avoid them most of my dancing career. I've had very few, and I prefer it that way. I've gone out of my way to avoid having the same men come back and see me multiple times. Ugh. It's irritating to hear the same person whine about the same things week after week.....
Kudos to any woman who can do it. If I wanted that kinda relationship I'd be married though....
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^mostly they listen to me whine and then give me money hehe
Re: Why do you ask customers personal questions??
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Originally Posted by
unbeleavable
Weak hustle Rick...
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Originally Posted by
yoda57us
I agree with this but I also think it's a function of age and experience as well. As a rule, I find that older dancers are more comfortable with their hustle and also much more adept at making innocuous small talk.
For the most part I agree with you both. A girl that dives into the personal info. bag too quickly usually does have a weak hustle and I also agree that the more experienced dancers are more adept at making small talk. All I can say on this matter is that I face the Big Four Questions, "Where are you from?/What do you do for work?/Are you married?/Do you have children?", almost every place that I club, which invariably leads to some back and forth sharing on the topics.
Now I'm not advocating this approach per se, but rather simply pointing out its fairly widespread existence. In fact, one must of course be very careful in sharing personal details with a relative stranger. I will add, though, that the hit and run hustles that are often used with the tourists, business travelers and younger guys that gravitate towards the high volume clubs don't tend to work as well on the saltier regulars in many local clubs. Many of these guys tend to want a certain level of comfort/connection with the girls that they spend time and money with. Heck yoda, I will hold you up as Exhibit A on that front, given that you've stuck with the same roster of favorites for a very long time and, in fact, haven't added a new one in years.
Anyway, obviously every club and dancer is different and approaches will vary. On this particular topic, I may just need to put on my bemused smile and chalk up the differences between what I'm reading here and what I'm seeing in the clubs to differing venues and dancer types. :)
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I only recently started dancing but uh half the customers Ive encountered so far bring up their significant others or families or random personal info unsolicited. So, I understand your skepticism rick bc Ive overheard dancers asking but uh the self-conscious custie babblers bring it up quite a bit ... or it seems they brought it up to gauge my reaction to see how 'naughty' I am I guess. Some married men spend quite a big chunk of time babbling about their issues and philosophies of life or whatever though so I completely understand why dancers (especially hustlers) would strategically ask. I overheard one dancer very intentionally using it to her advantage. Id suspect this wouldnt work on more veteran club goers though but guys who are brand new to the industry, who look nervous and arent yet desensitized to ~*the taboo*~ might be into that or relax or something... but Im not sure.
It also is just figuring out a way to have a conversation with a stranger who is spacing out at your partial (or total) nudity to bring them back to reality for a moment to build rapport or close a sale. So Im sympathetic, esp if the dancer hasnt been in the sex industry long and is just kind of using regular casual convo topics. But uh given how often customers seem to ask dancers if they are in a relationship (why?) it is a natural reaction to just ask back. My joke to "do you have a boyfriend" is to just ask "do you?" to sort of remind them that uh we're in fantasy mode... but I guess not everyone understands this... both parties though, I mean.
Re: Why do you ask customers personal questions??
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Originally Posted by
rickdugan
I will add, though, that the hit and run hustles that are often used with the tourists, business travelers and younger guys that gravitate towards the high volume clubs don't tend to work as well on the saltier regulars in many local clubs. Many of these guys tend to want a certain level of comfort/connection with the girls that they spend time and money with. Heck yoda, I will hold you up as Exhibit A on that front, given that you've stuck with the same roster of favorites for a very long time and, in fact, haven't added a new one in years.
Agreed rick, the BS factor holds no interest for me no matter how cute a dancer is. The five or so dancers that I have long-time associations with all have several things in common. They are all older (though, clearly, some of them were quite young when I met them) they are all earners and they all define themselves as "medium" hustlers. Interestingly, all but one prefer the day shift for it's slower pace. Now, to be fair, the conversation gets fairly personal with all of these ladies but the situation is very different than a first-time meeting.
Now, I DO still get approached quite often as I sit in the clubs waiting for my favs and I can tell you that the occasional new dancer who does get a dance or two out of me tends to fall into the more "general conversation" category than "personal information" seeker. It's just not that hard to talk about the weather, sports, music, movies or TV.
Re: Why do you ask customers personal questions??
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Originally Posted by
roast
It also is just figuring out a way to have a conversation with a stranger who is spacing out at your partial (or total) nudity to bring them back to reality for a moment to build rapport or close a sale. So Im sympathetic. But uh given how often customers seem to ask dancers if they are in a relationship (why?) it is a natural reaction to just ask back. My joke to "do you have a boyfriend" is to just ask "do you?" to sort of remind them that uh we're in fantasy mode... but I guess not everyone understands this... both parties though, I mean.
To be sure it's a two way street. There are just as many, if not more, guys asking personal questions as there are dancers. I'm pretty sure there has been a thread or two from the dancer's POV on this.
When I was married the last thing I wanted to talk about was my marriage with a dancer. It was sure to become a topic of conversation with my favs as time went on but I never understood the concept of bringing it up with a dancer you just met. Talk about a buzz kill!