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Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
I wrote streamate to see if i could get the scoop on whats going on with the camming industry lately with lower traffic and less paying customers. And basically got the run around or maybe they are clueless Idk? > here is what they said
>From: Streamate Performer Support <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:58 PM
Subject: [Support #xxxxxx] Support: General -- STUDIO StudioAdmin ID xxxxxxx
Hello,
Thank you for your message! User traffic if anything has been
increasing. User traffic to specific accounts is impacted by placement
on the site though.
Placement on Streamate is impacted by a number of things. Primarily you
should be streaming in HD using the HD encoder. Beyond that, use of
audio in free chat, your performance and user ratings have an impact as
well. Top rated, highest quality streams are those that are displayed
most prominently.
If you are not using HD, we highly recommend that you try it out!
Let us know if you have any further questions.
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
I dunno. I believe them?
I'm steadily seeing more money coming in, sticking to the following three rules.
1.) Work four hours from the end of my first private session.
2.) Do not once look at my earnings statement while I'm on cam.
3.) Do not check to see who else is online at the same time, nor check my placement.
At the rate I'm going, if I'd have worked twenty-eight hours this week, I'd have a grand.
I took a couple days off though, so I'm looking at a twenty hour week, I guess.
Don't look at traffic. Look at how you're playing the game, and dancing the dance with your custies.
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
PJ has stated that traffic and whatnot have been on the up and up as well.
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I have not seen it especially working in the morning and day?
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
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Originally Posted by
Trix66
I dunno. I believe them?
I'm steadily seeing more money coming in, sticking to the following three rules.
1.) Work four hours from the end of my first private session.
2.) Do not once look at my earnings statement while I'm on cam.
3.) Do not check to see who else is online at the same time, nor check my placement.
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These are really great tips. Especially making sure that I don't look at who else is on while I am. It can f#ck with your head.
Also, I always try to stay on for 3hrs at a time when I do force myself to log on. Trix mentioned 4hrs, even better if you can hold out that long.
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I work morning and day and consistently make between 60 and 80 an hour. However you can't expect everyones experiences to be the same. I'd start thinking of looking at ways you can improve your show or things you can do to draw more customers if you are experiencing trouble selling shows.
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^^^ rising 'traffic' is meaningless by itself. It doesn't help camgirls if the number of non-money spending freeloaders increases !!!
SM is admitting that the failure to stream in HD via their encoder software ( which offloads bandwidth requirements from SM's streaming servers and onto the camgirl's ISP instead ) is a major negative factor affecting 'placement'.
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Honestly, I'm not surprised by their answer - they aren't exactly the ideal people to have a conversation about the state of the industry! Their support basically has two functions - to deal with specific, measurable issues (like log-in failures, rates, issues with payment) and to keep as many girls working for them as possible. (Its not a negative thing, IMHO, its just what they are there for.) So by trying to condense their reply to deal with a possible perceived problem, and then giving you a solution, they have done what I would expect of them.
If you want to have discussions on the state of the industry, or of traffic on sites, that kind of thing, SW is the perfect place to do so! And you'll probably get much more interesting and varied opinions as well...I don't find that there has been any change in the past year for me (well, except that as I build my client base, I earn more!).
I actually think that traffic has gone UP in the past few years - more and more people are becoming computer literate, computers are becoming cheaper and internet speeds are improving. On top of that, social media is allowing us to promote like nothing on earth, and the amount of "cam-girl" shows and references are rising in the media, which creates a greater awareness of sites, so more people are coming to us. As for "paying traffic" - I'm guessing it is much the same as it ever was, but a higher number of girls working and customers make paying customers a lower percentage of what we see.....Just my two cents.
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
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Originally Posted by
Trix66
2.) Do not once look at my earnings statement while I'm on cam.
I wish I had enough self-control to not look at my earnings. I think a lot of girls have a habit of looking at it after every private. I know I did, lol.
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I just want to add a friendly reminder, (well 2). . regarding traffic, promo, getting outed, and types of customers.
This industry is still wonderful. Mind you, more freeloaders also means more guys know that "webcam girls". and FREE chat, exists now.
You will ALWAYS get places with promotion! It is a LOT of work, but it reaps you LOTS of benefits.
AND. . something happened to me yesterday. You REALLY don't know WHO finds out about camgirls on a daily basis, and who your customers REALLY are! I say this because I was outed to some people from high school. Here to find out, a few guys were totally blown away by the idea that camgirls and "interactive" porn exist. Yeah, they made fun of it, thought it was amusing, this is what I'm doing with my life after the military blah blah blah I'm just suuuuch a big huge slut. . but I later found out THREE guys bought private sessions from me on Streamate! One admitted it was him in the private, and I found out about the other two through the grapevine. These are guys you would NEVER expect would honestly be on a computer looking for camgirls. Decent looking, good families, interactive and fun at parties, etc, etc, etc.
Ok, I obviously suck at writing things, because I don't remember what the point of me writing this was in regards to traffic?
Something along the lines of. . when men find out this stuff exists. . you will get a few out of the crew that sign up and play but won't admit it. Men of all demographics. . even including. . yes. . freeloaders.
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Originally Posted by
sammii
I wish I had enough self-control to not look at my earnings. I think a lot of girls have a habit of looking at it after every private. I know I did, lol.
Oh yeah! I used to look every time, and I'm still in the routine, so I have to stop myself from looking. I'm like "No! The magic will go away!"
Then I'm like "Oh yeah...the magic. I've got the magic. Next!"
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OP, do you mind your e-mail address being on here?
Uh, you might have a lot of spam in the next few days...
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
lol^^^ they are thinking.
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
This is good advice!!! Ever since things picked up for me on SM I have a tendency to check my placement after every show, and check my earnings, oh and my RATING!! I just cant help but check, check, check, it's like a damn caffeine addiction. I know I am wasting so much time in between!
I really need to use this advice! Thank you for stating the obvious that I needed to hear! LOL
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Originally Posted by
Trix66
I dunno. I believe them?
I'm steadily seeing more money coming in, sticking to the following three rules.
1.) Work four hours from the end of my first private session.
2.) Do not once look at my earnings statement while I'm on cam.
3.) Do not check to see who else is online at the same time, nor check my placement.
At the rate I'm going, if I'd have worked twenty-eight hours this week, I'd have a grand.
I took a couple days off though, so I'm looking at a twenty hour week, I guess.
Don't look at traffic. Look at how you're playing the game, and dancing the dance with your custies.
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
hahaha thats exactly what i do, i'm constantly making sure that everyone leaves a good rating, and i lose focus!!
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They don't care about you, they only care about money and their reputation. They aren't going to tell you they bought cheaper traffic or started advertising in beggar central. They don't care. And traffic means nothing. Traffic is not mutually exclusive to PAYING traffic. And even if they say that revenue is way up, it doesn't mean anything because there are more & more new models, and I've noticed most models working 2x or more the amount of time they used to in order to make the same money. We are just warm bodies who make them money. They don't care, they only reply because they don't want any model to quit (less $$$) or give them a bad reputation. Harsh, but true.
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
nahhh it fine its an old e-mail address connected to our Studio account we really don't use it anymore and its already spammed up like crazy :)
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
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Originally Posted by
Trix66
I dunno. I believe them?
I'm steadily seeing more money coming in, sticking to the following three rules.
1.) Work four hours from the end of my first private session.
2.) Do not once look at my earnings statement while I'm on cam.
3.) Do not check to see who else is online at the same time, nor check my placement.
At the rate I'm going, if I'd have worked twenty-eight hours this week, I'd have a grand.
I took a couple days off though, so I'm looking at a twenty hour week, I guess.
Don't look at traffic. Look at how you're playing the game, and dancing the dance with your custies.
Your three rules are great. I have had a bad habit of checking my placement and earnings.
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If you start a gold show then you will go to the top of the preferences on page 1 because a lot of customers select gold show as their main preference
Even if it doesnt reach goal you will have 30 to 40 people that would never have seen you if you stayed a few pages back in online/party :)
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
i used to work at a studio here in vegas and we are guaranteed front page listing....im at home now and have to fight to get back on first page. there is no damn formula to getting there unfortunately. its the highest money makers and the studios that have that in the contract for an extra 5%...so im stuck making 30% because of that contract now. SM lies all the time...traffic sucks and the guys are rude or just sit there saying nothing.
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What I find really screwy is that one day I can go from 50% of my time spent in private to 8%. My % last week for the 5 days I worked were 8%, 6%, 65%, 40%, 19%. Whack as hell.
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
o damn i thought this was a place to get help from other models, not get judged...my bad. im not behind the wall anymore and go ahead and email liz, there is such a thing as a wall.... its ok though i understand...people criticize what they dont understand. knowledge is power....have a wonderful day! o and i am making over 1000 a week still...just takes a lil longer with encoder issues! :)
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Originally Posted by
trinabanks
o damn i thought this was a place to get help from other models, not get judged...my bad. im not behind the wall anymore and go ahead and email liz, there is such a thing as a wall....fiestymsbanks is behind it, along with khloeanderson. its ok though i understand...people criticize what they dont understand. knowledge is power....have a wonderful day! o and i am making over 1000 a week still...just takes a lil longer with encoder issues! :)
Actually Liz told me recently there is no "wall".
Here we go with the wall thing again......
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Re: Streamate's Response to Slowing Traffic and less paying customers.
What is 'the wall'? :-/
(Or if there isn't one, what is it THOUGHT to be?)