Re: Tokens for rent and food
Whatever works. Kudos to her, for making her money.
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Seems to me it could be a major turnoff. Guys come to forget about troubles, not hear about yours. They seem to tip those who don't really need the money and the more the tips roll in seems the more they snowball. It's not fair but i've seen it so much, that those who don't seem to need it get more.
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I would not. It could work for a day or two, but if the same guys are coming back into her room, they aren't going to want to hear the same sad story everyday. So she probably won't get regulars and that's where the $'s at.
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You could do that if you have regulars who you know will tip you regardless.
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Wanting the vanilla guys to pay for your rent and your food isn't very sexy. We are catering to their illusion that we are lonely girls who come online to have fun, and to be flirty and sexy and are horny 24/7. Being desperate for food does nothing to play up that illusion.
Rent and food would be something you would drop on slaves or submissives because it is their 'role' and it their job to make your life easier. "Of course I can pay for my rent, but you're going to do it because it's your job to make ME happy. So open your fucking wallet, and give it to me."
Never, EVER beg. For tokens, for money. Even if you are in a tight spot, the pity card can backfire big time on you. And uh, for the girls who have a sob story every week? Custies remember, and so do the models, lol.
MyGirlFund, for instance, is FULL of sob stories: "Help buy us groceries, my daughter and I are going to go hungry." "I can't pay my rent." "Please help me pay off all of my DUI's so I don't end up in jail." (Not shitting you)
It will not get you white knights. Because men can smell the desperation, if you are being truthful or not and it will attract men who will try to haggle you down to next to nothing because you give off the impression that you are so desperate you will take anything.
So, the 'pay my rent and buy my food and please don't let my car get reposessed' may work once or twice for a pity run. But in the long run it will hurt you. People get tired of it, quick. And let's face it, even if you are being genuine, in the adult industry?? and you can't pay for your own living expenses, you'll NEED to quit what you're doing and get a 9-5 job - and that is what people will start to tell you.
Never let your custies see you crack. In their eyes you are beautiful, well-off, stable and everything they want but can never have. You never have a down moment. Positive karma. Happiness = $$$ !
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I would never want anyone to think that I fuck myself on the internet but can't afford to pay my rent. Even if it were true. And trust me, I know all too well that shit happens and even if you are making good money financial difficulties can still arise.
I've jumped on a couple hours before the pay period ended and told everyone I was $50 short of my goal but I found the only guys who will tip to help me out are my regs but then again, tipping isn't really big on SM.
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Yea, I know if I were to do it on MFC, I probably wouldn't get shit, because guys don't like "token whores". But I say if it works for someone else, then hey..go for it.
MGF in my opinion is sorta different in the sense that guys know you are there for a purpose, and I believe guys look at that site differently then they do MFC. I say that because of the types of messages I get on MGF. They say things like, "So what's your story?"...they seem to want to know the WHY.
Just what I think though...
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I personally would not. In my guys eyes I am a fantasy. They come to us because it's a safe haven to get away from their problems, they don't want to hear about ours. I'd rather give the appearance that I am basking in the lap of luxury getting on to get off rather than looking desperate like I should be standing in a food line. Besides I'd rather the guys think I'm just camming to buy let's say a new coach bag rather than being a check away from being homeless. Not a good look! But if it works for her great, I just don't think she'd be able to keep getting money with that tactic. Even if I was struggling I'd never tell my guys, I would just behave as if everything is great and happy and perfect *in my giggly cam girl voice* ... like Hayden said never let them see you sweat
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I agree with the above posters, just not very "independent woman-like" and honestly I think most men get turned on more by the idea that we want them but dont need them, we have them around not out of desperation but out of enjoyment....sorry but I think that whole begging thing throws off that vibe!
Oh, not to mention a host is now opening the door for custies to start whining about their problems to you too, Ide rather lead by example in that situaion. And I dont wanna hear this line a billion times... "Well, I helped you buy groceries, cant you gimme a freebie?" Grrr, dont think so buddy, get lost.. lol
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It drives me insane to see the pity card! To each their own I guess.
One another note, anytime I cam while I'm thinking about how much money I need......I make almost $0!!! Anytime I get myself pumped up and get on cam looking to have fun I always make a decent amount of money. I never knew that the mind and universe, so to speak, make such a difference!
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MFC is so crazy! I've seen girls making good money there doing things that seem to defy all logic - begging for money, crying on the phone, being a stuck-up cow, acting like a cracked-out addict....I honestly don't know how to figure it out any more! The only thing that I can think of is that maybe:
1. She did not have a "begging" attitude and
2. She was not doing this every day.
I can actually see it working if you are very "girl next door" in your approach, and for a couple days a month, you made a point of aiming toward a "rent goal". If it was done in a fun way, and not as "omg, I can't make rent, please please help" but "well my dear regs, its that time of the month again! Better get that rent money out of the way so I can go buy more pretty shoes!" I don't think that it would seem too desperate or as though she was offloading her problems onto them. Sometimes I think that the guys appreciate a little honesty about what the money goes towards - and if you are on cam 5 hours a day, 6 days a week, its pretty obvious that it is your only job and you are paying rent with that.
The food thing is a little weird, but again, I think that it depends on how it is being presented. "Oh please, I need food, I'm starving and broke" is a turn off. Talking about what is on your wishlist, and saying that there is food on there becuase, well, you eat and love food and figured, why not? - that makes some sense. You could even turn it into a "buy me dinner!" type thing.
Kudos though, for being able to pull it off!
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Originally Posted by
sweetsam
MGF in my opinion is sorta different in the sense that guys know you are there for a purpose, and I believe guys look at that site differently then they do MFC. I say that because of the types of messages I get on MGF. They say things like, "So what's your story?"...they seem to want to know the WHY.
Just what I think though...
They must be in the minority. I have read many a man's profile there that says words to the effect "I don't care about your bleeding sob story, please don't contact me begging".
I signed up for MGF but was so annoyed at the customers (because they pretend they are nice guys and you are friends etc, but are there for freebies like everyone else), and the girls (selling everything that they own for just one paid message). I only had it on in the background and got annoyed. Going to start up having it on in the background again. But I don't care about it, hence my profile now says 1)I do not live chat for free 2)I do not have a sob story, I'm here to cam. Hey, might work in my favour for guys who also realise that it is a porn site, not a community centre. Lolz
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tokens for food not cool?
easy fix : ask for tokens for an expensive car, or a nice vacation.
Im pretty sure some will tip for that.
Men are happy to oblige.. if you make them do it lol