"Hum"? Really? That's your only reaction? Ummmmm... can you elaborate? LOL! :-)
(By the way, that wasn't even meant for YOU, little miss 'if my prices get any higher they'll need a spacesuit'.) :-P
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Oh goodie!!! Everyone's favourite! A post that's about to derail a thread into a debate about "what a woman is SUPPOSED to look like when she is experiencing a TRUE orgasm"!!! :-)
Perhaps we can discuss "legitimate" vs "illegitimate" rape, next? :-P
(Let's maybe agree right off the bat that orgasms are an extremely private and individual thing, each woman experiences them in her own special way, and there is no 'correct way' to look or 'correct amount' of secretions to produce. Please?)
LOL
made me laugh....
thats not my only reaction, I was going to elaborate " soon" lol
so in a nut shell , you add value and then you give them the choice to accept the new price or.. move on.
Pretty easy, kind of whats been said here or maybe not..
we actually never discussed that models would rather NOT let the members move on but would rather take whatever they can now, fast cash, even if its only $20 .......
Wait, we saw this here many times...
"Id rather have more privates, faster, cheaper price and I make some $.. than wait for privates..."
YES! we read this line many many times.....
+ the problem of the foreign models who only need I dunno $500/mo to live ok..
+ the problem that they dont really BELIEVE these people are willing to pay more
(God, I think I said this so many times.. you need to BELIEVE!)
Here is the problem, Jessica..
You... me.. maybe others... are not pressured by this week;s earnings.. could be $0, its ok.
In other words, we can afford to "waste" 2 hours so that later or tomorrow we make lots!
Others cant.
Cant afford that.
They need money NOW! Yesterday if possible.
Especially the ladies on Daily Pay... I think.
When you need money NOW you;re willing to do whatever you can to get that little bit of money NOW!
So here comes the.. I'll charge under the going rate... to make money NOW"
and thats ok.. but when comes that time to finally say. ok, im ok now, Lets do it the RIGHT way.
The only RIGHT way is to make some GOOOD CASH doing this..
I refuse to believe that any of the models would think that it is ok to do this job for little money.
I refuse it. totally. dont want to hear it. ( can u tell that im getting mad yet?lol)
Added value..
Hows some added self esteem for added value?
Hows cracking a smile more than often for added value?
Hows making one self look decent for added value?
but you see I cant talk about this..
Im gonna get slammed really bad.
this haunts me "raised my price to $2.99"..
I cant sleep because of this. LOL
Elaborated enough?
I give you an A+ on your dissertation, Fridays. Very well done. :-)
I cannot agree with you more about the "I need money YESTERDAY" problem. I think that girls who find themselves in this situation are at a real, real disadvantage, and need to do absolutely everything in their power to get themselves OUT OF IT, ASAP.
I know that sometimes girls fall on incredibly tough times, and this is easier said than done. But, often, I think it is something that CAN be achieved with the right mix of discipline, motivation, and sweat. It really really pains my heart at its VERY CORE (I am actually getting chest pains as I type this) when I see girls/women/anyone trapped in a vicious cycle of loans/fees/bills. They fall victim to predators who offer them the promise of financial salvation, but at very high interest rates. One misstep, and you're drowning. It's an endless treadmill, and it's soooo hard to get out once you are in.
This is why I think it is so important for camgirls to be DISCIPLINED with their business... so they can put aside a financial safety net for the inevitable day that their car breaks down, child gets sick, or something else occurs. In MY perfect world, no one would need studios, check-cashing places, or DailyPay (I respect the way you run your business very much, PJ, but it doesn't mean I can't wish for girls to not need your services), because they would have enough in their bank account to WAIT FOR THE DAMN FREE CHECK TO ARRIVE VIA SNAILMAIL. I really want each and every girl to keep AS MUCH OF HER OWN MONEY AS POSSIBLE, without needing to pay anyone a dime to 'get it here just 3 days sooner, because rent is due and I'm broke!'. Ugh... this shit seriously breaks my heart. :-(
As for how to 'add value' as a camgirl? Lots of ways. For example, have you:
-upgraded your computer equipment?
-gotten in better shape?
-perfected your makeup techniques?
-started shaving your cooch more neatly?
-optimized your lighting?
-purchased nicer looking bedsheets?
-bought three new dildos?
-started offering something new, like anal?
If you have done any of those things, then you have ADDED VALUE to your camshows, and you can absolutely justify a price increase.
And yes.. the video I linked does not say ANYTHING that this thread has not already touched on, which is why I felt it appropriate to post. Freelancers in the 'real world' systematically raise their prices. There is absolutely NOTHING about camming that makes regular rules of BUSINESS not apply.
This is the smartest thing I have heard anyone say in a long time... And it is so true... I can attest to it... Not just long ago I was one of the girls who needed the money yesterday, I couldn't afford to have my pvt @ $12.99 to see what will happen. Was I happy with a $3.99/min- hell no, but did it, because I had to make sure the money is coming in. I worked my tush off to do what I had to do to get out of it...
I'm over that period of my life, now I can experiment with $12.99/min rates and have easy money, a lot of easy money. Because if I make nothing today, i will make 4 times that tomorrow... If I make nothing in 2 hours I will have a $200+ or even $300+ hour later, it will even up eventually...
I think the problem is (for the most girls), that they just don't believe, that some one will spend that kind of cash on them (been there, done that). They have this mentality "economy sucks now", but come on now- there is a ton of guys who can spend 100's a day, every day, like it's nothing. And they are not looking to spend it to watch a $1.99 girl go at it... They are looking for unique, a trill... blah blah blah... do I make sense? Hope I do...
In my opinion- let them keep the prices at $1.99 or even raise it to $2.99, I will take care of the rich men :)
I emailed today for SM to raise my prices:
"Oh hi, what would you like it raised to"
"5.99 please"
"You can do this in the dropdown menu"
Menu is still normal prices that only go up to 4.99.
SM support never changes, lol
$5.99? why not $12.99?
I agree with the sentiments of the past few posts, I think it is daunting for some (myself included) to raise their rates. It also definitely has a lot to do with self esteem and fear, especially if you are broke etc.
Does anyone have a certain formula for pricing gold shows? Thanks in advance! I will peep around the forums too.
Well, obviously! There is nothing else it possibly could be.
Hmmm....the only way I can fix this is to go out and sleep with a shit ton of more women. For science, of course.
Any volunteers? Now remember, this is a totally noble endeavor. It is for science. :D
I haven't cammed since mid July so I'm thinking this is the perfect time to jack those rates up since I've probably lost everyone anyway lol. I just raised them to $5 and $6, but now I'm wondering just how far I could push it... drop-down menu goes to $9.99 for me :P
I don't think I've added much value though. My body looks the same, my appearance varies by night, and my lights have these aggravatingly cold, harsh, white bulbs. I'm not sure if it's really better than my old lighting, but I'm pretty sure I never streamed with the encoder before leaving, and I can now :)
there is 1 thing......
but before that lets see if you ladies and me know of ANY porn stars or cam girls that made it rich from porn/camming.
I know 1 porn star.
Jenna Jameson.
To me she made it.
Cam girls? Maybe aspen from MFC?
but shes not main stream yet, no contracts with playboy or vivid ( I guess?) so I dont know . I;d say no.
Buying a car or a house is not making it, in my eyes..
buying 100 cars and 100 houses, it is.
Ok now..
So
why is camming different and what rules dont apply here?
this :
Because it is what it is and it is porn.
The guilt eats many of us on the inside.
( me not so much- I strongly believe just like you pay people to cook, so they are cooks or you pay people to build your house.. etc etc, any profession...you pay people for porn. You pay for their time and their willingness to help you out with whatever you two agree on.). To me my vagina is just the same as my arm, my legs, my face. Just another body part and I dont value it LESS, I value it JUST AS MUCH as any other body part.
You talked about guilt at a point, Jessica, I remember.
So guilt is what makes most of us double guess our self-worth.
there is NO guilt in real life businesses.
There is LOTS of guilt here...
Real, emotional, deep down inside the soul type of guilt.
So what do we do when we feel guilty?
We agree with the accuser. Silently.
We know they are right and we should NOT be doing this...
Therefore we do what we can to stop feeling guilty and part of that we think that if we lower the price they will NOT accuse us as much anymore because hey, its not even alot of money...
Edit: and when the price is low and they dont pay it we start to freak out " omg, I dont even worth 1 buck!! Im horrible!" and here depression sets in..
You do what? Charge to masturbate in front of a total stranger?
You stupid whore! GO get a job! You lazy fuck!
and we, secretly, kind of agree with that,, dont we...
So yea this is THE thing lol
This is the Best Thread
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WE CAN DO IT GAIZ
I raised my prices from like 3.99 to 4.49 over the price of two weeks and NO REGRETS.
NEXT WEEK I SHALL BE 5.99
I got this today" why do girls overprice themselves"
so I told him
" u better exit before I kill you and your family " .. LOL
I also don't do alot of the things that you listed and my profile is write for fetish guys.
Don't talk in the negative.
Don't tell guy what you won't do ( unless of course they specially ask )
Tell them what you will do
I say all the time in my room" that offer hot sex show with real O's and I only do what I like"
I don't say l I am offer a "soft core toy show and won't do anal and hard core pounding."
Guys don't want to hear what you won't do.
I always try to talk in the positive when I am on cam and selling show.
The Dont's list was for u girls to read here not for members !! hahaa !! I always focus on what i CAN do. xxx
ops, did not mean it like that...
I edited!
I meant it like: i did not want to take credit for something that Jessica brought up first.
I wanted to give her credit for that....
I guess everyone who has the " verified" logo and link should remove it, while we;re at it.
First rule of the Fight Club
There is no Fight Club.
just a million links to it...
shy, pick your fights, will ya?
Well, I guess I'm the one who got 'quoted', and I'm not offended, soooo.... Great reminder, and let's let this one slide, shall we?
At least she didn't quote from the thread where I revealed the secrets to making $10k per day... THAT would have been bad....
:-P
Not sure if these two are correlated or not but...I'm having better placement sice raising my rates!
Thanks Bbs for educating and encouraging me! I wouldn't be her without you. Oh wait this isn't an awards show. ;)
...Oh! This is SO an awards show!
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