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I'm in! New on SM so no regulars and getting quite a few shows but earning peanuts at it compared to other sites. Just put my exclusive at $6.99 and private at $4.99 to test the theory. Lets hope tomorrow is a good one! I seem to be spending a lot of time in free chat compared to you other ladies but have finally hit my 5 stars today so heres hoping that is going to help my traffic and placement!
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Oh. my. gosh.
I set my rates up to almost double and with the ratio thing in mind - and I am blowing up! I am busier than ever and breaking personal goals like crazy. I cant freaking believe this! I'm going to give it a few more days and see if I can bump it up a tiny bit. But damn! This site and you guys are the best <3
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Meeting goal much faster :D
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It worked for me too! I went $4.99 $6.99 and meeting goals quicker and just as busy I was a bit nervous but it's working!!
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@Layla - This is mostly a personal superstition, but I always try to keep my private/exclusive ratio somewhere between 2:3 and 3:4. For example, at 5.99/7.99 you were at a 3:4 ratio, and then when you raised only the private rate to 6.99/7.99, it changed your ratio to 7:8. If I were at 5.99/7.99 and wanted to follow my ratio superstition, I'd raise them to 6.69/8.99.
It's probably total nonsense, but my gut tells me that if your private and exclusive rates are too close together, it scrambles guys' brains, and then neither option seems appealing to them. Does anyone else have any weird rates systems like that?
It's actually quite the contrary for me. I always keep my prices $1 apart and since I hate peepers I always keep my private rate $1 more than my exclusive rate. When the guys ask I just tell them that I prefer 1 on 1 fun with my guys.
Most guys prefer 1 on 1 and the majority will go with what they can afford which is usually the cheaper option. Though I do get guys who pay for private at $9.99, I notice I get a ton of peepers in there. Because of that, it makes it worthwhile to me because that extra $1 per min makes it worth the headache. My exclusive rate is $8.99 and the guys tend to stay much longer.
I also don't start the show until after I know they've been charged. Even if they only stay 1 min I know I'm getting either $3.14 or $3.49 which is absolutely fine by me for not doing anything, lol.
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I experimented last night on AW with interesting results. With buyer psychology in mind I lowered my group rate slightly to £2.55 and raised my private from £3.99 - £4.99. I got absolutely tons of group shows with multiple guys at once (unheard of for me as I usually am 99% private despite my high rate). Made my goal in under 2 hours. I haven't been on in a while so it's possibly the case that there was just more traffic than usual, but it definitely felt like I hit that 'sweet spot' in price range. Try it :)
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This week, I will be raising my indy and skype rates. I will jump from 3.50 to 5.99 on skype :) Wish me luck.
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yesterday was super slow but I'm gonna raise my rates anyway, yolo~
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I will definitely be raising my rates on SM and Cams. :)
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I've been playing with my rates a lot more this year, vs last year during which I had fixed lower rates in EXC and a highER rate in premium. When I felt ready I bumped it up by a couple of dollars, now making premium cheaper. I tried at 5.69 -- 7.99 and I did so-so for awhile, but last week I got so bored I lowered it to 4.99 - 6.99 and suddenly I was busy. But I feel crappy about going lower, so tonight I hiked it up back to 5.69-6.99.
I don't even know how to keep track of the best productivity, or if it's even recommendable to change my rates throughout the day according to apparent traffic/takers, any opinons?
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So I raised right up to where I wanted to be and got very little traffic, so i went back down to $6.99/$8.99 and am doing well there. Sometimes you just have to read the circumstances and do what fits them best. However the $6.99/8.99 was a huge raise from my 5.99/7/99 so I am still very happy with that.
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Tigrillo
I don't even know how to keep track of the best productivity, or if it's even recommendable to change my rates throughout the day according to apparent traffic/takers, any opinons?
I change my group rates during the workday on AW, where nearly everybody is in the same country. Not by much, mind you, by no more than £0.50. In the evening I hike them up again.
But on SM, with its worldwide audience, I keep them the same, other than swapping prem and exc from time to time. Occasionally I raise them when it's really slow, so that I can get the most out of the spenders. My beggar to spender ratio has been awful on SM recently, so I'm sticking to 9.99/5.99 for a while to cut down on the peepers.
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Well I have been getting really peed off with getting loads of people in my cheap private rate on sm and suddenly no exclusives. I am normally earning all the same every week but today's is the worst ever shift so I've put them up and will wait. No way working for less than $5.99 private it's stupid so now $7.99 exclusive so see what happens
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^^ Best thing to do. Whenever I become ticked off with people becoming too comfortable in premium I raise the rate. Exclusion can be a good thing at times.
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Its been a really bad day but this morning some prick wanted JOI in private and then gave me a 3 when someone else joined in and I was talking to them too how funny is that?! Roll on tomorrow today has honestly been about my worst one on cam ever not even just for money but totally wankers. When they are paying a descent wack it never seems so painful at all!
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^^It's true, when I raise my rates right up, I don't mind the ridiculousness so much. Awful day today, so sitting at 5.99/7.99 on SM.
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Read through this whole thread and it was magical.
I've been raising my rates as I've been going through everyone's posts. Yesterday I raised to $6.99/$8.99. Previously, I only had a dollar difference between premium and exclusive. Personally, I like the $2 difference - good arguments on losing out on potential money on privates if they're priced too close. Also, I like giving exclusives some extra value since it's a more personal experience and I offer more in exclusive anyway.
After I post this, I'll be bumping my rates to $7.99/$9.99 and see how that goes. I've been experiencing nothing but positives as my rates have gone up. I swear I really felt like I wasn't doing so well with all the time I felt I was just sitting in free chat, but no! My time in paid chat has actually gone up every single time I've raised my rates. So, even though I felt idle and not busy enough in free chat, that was just a misconception - this really highlights the importance of using SM's rate analysis tools for me.
Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences here. If it weren't for this thread, I never would have realized how much power we really do have. The empowerment has made such a positive impact on my attitude, which only enhances the quality of my shows. :3
ETA: I nearly forgot! Since bumping my rate last night, I was getting tipped more gold than ever in freechat! I was tipped four times in a row for oil (they can choose boobs or ass with panties still on) between three different guys. After that, I was promptly taken private by the guy who tipped twice. I'm hoping that this trend will continue, especially since I'm bumping up my rates by another $1.
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on ifriends i have raised my rates from 2.99 to 5.99
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Wow I just started streamate last night, am I totally low balling myself? My private rate is 2.99/min and exclusive is 3.99/min. Did you guys start around that number when you were just building up an audience? I did get a lot of privates but no exclusives. I worked for about an hour in private and made $68.
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^^ Yes, you are.
A few years back, a certain notorious studio (IM) had a policy that all their new models start at 3.99/4.99 (I can't say what their starting rates are now, but I'm sure they haven't decreased). If a model is just starting out with IM, we can reasonably assume that she is not that familiar with the industry and hasn't been doing research on forums like this, because if she had, she wouldn't be signing up with an evil pimp. In other words, these girls are pretty green.
In spite of how unscrupulous this studio is, they are large and have presumably done a fair amount of market research. If they are starting brand new models at 3.99/4.99, NO ONE should be starting at rates lower than that. I'd argue that if you've found your way to SW, you have access to a tremendous amount of info to quickly make you a better cam model, so your rates should actually be higher than a new model without this wealth of info.
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^^ Yes, you are.
A few years back, a certain notorious studio (IM) had a policy that all their new models start at 3.99/4.99 (I can't say what their starting rates are now, but I'm sure they haven't decreased). If a model is just starting out with IM, we can reasonably assume that she is not that familiar with the industry and hasn't been doing research on forums like this, because if she had, she wouldn't be signing up with an evil pimp. In other words, these girls are pretty green.
In spite of how unscrupulous this studio is, they are large and have presumably done a fair amount of market research. If they are starting brand new models at 3.99/4.99, NO ONE should be starting at rates lower than that. I'd argue that if you've found your way to SW, you have access to a tremendous amount of info to quickly make you a better cam model, so your rates should actually be higher than a new model without this wealth of info.
i agree i wish to have higher rates. but im trans and the trans girls in general have low rates...ive seen only one girl with over 5.99 and shes a super famous porn star. the average seems to be like 3.99(for being white and pretty), not lots of girls over that sadly. it is what it is. i would say i do stand out so over the next few days ill see if i can move past the low average and still get alot of privates...
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Do not go by what others are charging, base your prices on how much you want (or need, but want is better ;)) to earn. As a trans girl you're a very niche market my love, you can bank on it x
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I am from Europe, and if I would have followed the majority I would never gotten where I am right now; placement wise and earnings wise.
You cant go by the rest and follow, when you wanna exceed and stand out
Always make sure you at least charge more than those damn bots on streamate (playing prerecorded shows in a loop) I dont know for sure but I though they where charging 3.99pvt-5.99exl??
You are worth damn more than someone playing a vid
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Wow I just started streamate last night, am I totally low balling myself? My private rate is 2.99/min and exclusive is 3.99/min. Did you guys start around that number when you were just building up an audience? I did get a lot of privates but no exclusives. I worked for about an hour in private and made $68.
When you up your prices you will build up a whole new following, maybe some will stick around but in my experience a lot will move on and you will get better clients replacing them.
Better start of higher, so you will attract the clients you are looking for, instead of starting off low and having to replace them when going higher
From high to lower prices is always easier to do than the other way around
if you are in need of money quick though than maybe do it in a time when life is easier on you so you will have the patience to stick with you chosen price