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Ok, thank you for the pep talk. I have worked very hard for a few years, just to feel like I CAN DO THIS, so it was really scary to have some success and feel like I am starting from square one again--empty room with no one talking to me. I'm really glad that I have you all to keep me from doing something ignorant. Honestly, I feel a lot better and I believe that will be my last freakout about this. Imma just ride it out. Cause you're right, those guys are looking to take advantage of someone new who doesn't know how to price themselves. Which, I don't lol, but I'm trying.
Also, jokes on them they all gave me 5* ratings that I will use to get better-paying clients.
Thank you for not letting me be a chicken guys!
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kamiliam
I mean you won't lose them all. Some will come by less often, shorter shows, no shows only tips. The ride or dies will stay on as long as they can. The higher your rate is before the raise, the more wiggle room you have.
Where you started is not a reliable reg base (same with guys who only like new models), it is below market value and only attracts those who simply don't have a ton of money to spend or believe we are not worth money. But yeah they spend. From your posts it seems like you have a pretty good idea of how to hustle, you deserve to see a reward for that. Once you get a longer show at your new rate you won't miss those old regs. Total up your highest spender for the week and compare once the increase settles in.
I actually think that you made some good points about rate increases. There is a methodology to it and the answer to success is not just to charge the most...but your customer base at that rate isn't the one to judge that on.
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Streamate still hasn’t gotten back to me? I just e-mailed support. Is there a special email or something? Who knows. I’ll just wait...lol
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How long has it been? They been telling me wait up to 3 days for stuff. That has proven to be accurate.
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EmPea
How long has it been? They been telling me wait up to 3 days for stuff. That has proven to be accurate.
Yep it’s been over 3 days. I’ll reach out again.
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How long would you give it after raising rates to see if they are your best rates?
I was having a good week and raised my rates from 3.99 / 5.99 to 4.99 / 6.99 early July and it was going well.... then hit a rough patch and raised them again to 5.99 / 7.99 early/mid august.
Since then it's been really really rough. Granted it was summer and we are in a pandemic, but it's still. I had one of my best days ever on cam as well as one of my best weeks, but overall when looking at the average rate analysis my hourly has gone down by nearly 10$, I lost some regs, and overall people seem less willing to do shows.
I have been a bit inconsistant- working like crazy one week and then not at all the next- but I'm wondering if my new rates are hurting more than helping? How long do y'all think I should stick it out before throwing in the towel?
thanks for your advice ladies <3
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Ok, so everyone, even BoylenModels advised me to raise my rate $4.99/$5.99 and now I am having the worst performing night I have since I started back. I don't want to drop my rate but I also don't want to be hella cheap. Plus the old rate was exhausting. I just saw a Black model charging $7.99, so these guys need to quit playing with me. If you have it for someone else you have it for me. However, getting only one exclusive in 2 hours, that was minute long cause his connection dropped sucked. Anyway, I guess I need a pep talk.
I second everyone else but I'm not sure what you mean by "a black model is charging $7.99, so these guys need to quit playing with me"
Not gonna lie, that reads like you think black models are worth less, which is honestly pretty racist....
ETA: It looks like I maybe read that wrong. My apologies!
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I second everyone else but I'm not sure what you mean by "a black model is charging $7.99, so these guys need to quit playing with me"
Not gonna lie, that reads like you think black models are worth less, which is honestly pretty racist....
I got quite the opposite, she sounds like she's also black...
I guess she can answer better, tho...
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I did lower my rates by the end of the month. I didn't really work lately and kinda dropped on pages.
I gotta do, what I gotta do :))
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Cutie101
I got quite the opposite, she sounds like she's also black...
I guess she can answer better, tho...
Ahh, I can see that perspective. I sure hope that's the case! Perhaps it was rude of me to jump the gun and assume... I think the political tension in the US has me a bit tense -__-
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I did lower my rates by the end of the month. I didn't really work lately and kinda dropped on pages.
I gotta do, what I gotta do :))
I told myself I would give it til the end of this month... I feel like I have to be more consistent before I can really determine if I should lower or not. I know sometimes there are just bad days/weeks, and who knows, maybe the week I worked literally 1 day would have been good.
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I'm Black so I was comparing her to my own rates. Not being racist, I was looking at what similar models were charging, I did when I did irl sw too.
And that meant that I did have room to charge way more....
Y'all gotta stop jumping on people and assuming the worst. This really made me feel some type of way, that anyone would think after seeing me write on here that I would ever say anything like that.
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princess_casual
I second everyone else but I'm not sure what you mean by "a black model is charging $7.99, so these guys need to quit playing with me"
Not gonna lie, that reads like you think black models are worth less, which is honestly pretty racist....
ETA: It looks like I maybe read that wrong. My apologies!
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I'm Black so I was comparing her to my own rates. Not being racist, I was looking at what similar models were charging, I did when I did irl sw too.
And that meant that I did have room to charge way more....
Y'all gotta stop jumping on people and assuming the worst. This really made me feel some type of way, that anyone would think after seeing me write on here that I would ever say anything like that.
I apologize for that; you're absolutely right- I shouldn't have assumed the worst. I have seen some discriminatory stuff on here from some models but I shouldn't let that taint my perception. Thinking before reacting is something I could definitely improve on.
As for your rates- I totally understand that feeling of when you just raise them and suddenly it's dead. But I've done that about a new haircut, certain outfit that I think maybe is more or less flattering. it's easy to think people aren't spending because of x or y reason- I do it too (and have been feeling the same way recently) but one thing about camming is that can really fluctuate. I have had absolutely horrible days that make me quesiton raising my rates, but the next day might be so amazing I could never consider going back.
It seems like you may lose some regulars but you will also get new ones. I'm going to tell you what I've been telling myself lately: get it into your head that you are worth it. Embody it. Higher rates will require more patience it seems like. It's a different hustle than the quick bucks but the clientele does seem better overall.
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Are there girls still making decent money on streamate at 9.99/12.99? seems exhausting after this covid crap =(. Just checking in to see if maybe its been slow because my rates are too high now?
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Are there girls still making decent money on streamate at 9.99/12.99? seems exhausting after this covid crap =(. Just checking in to see if maybe its been slow because my rates are too high now?
There was a really recent post on the Streamate thread from another model about her experience lowering her rates recently, it’s worth a look if you haven’t seen it already.
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gbjenna
There was a really recent post on the Streamate thread from another model about her experience lowering her rates recently, it’s worth a look if you haven’t seen it already.
Thank you! yea, I saw that but she was pretty low in rates in general. Normally I stick it out but ever since covid hit it seems like its been super slow for awhile now but maybe its just the sign of the times right now and things will eventually get better :) trying to stay positive :)
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Thank you! yea, I saw that but she was pretty low in rates in general. Normally I stick it out but ever since covid hit it seems like its been super slow for awhile now but maybe its just the sign of the times right now and things will eventually get better :) trying to stay positive :)
Yep that was me.
My rates for the last few months have been $6.99/9.99 so nowhere near $9.99/12.99.
$4.99 definitely was not good, ugh... working too hard for too little and unpleasant guys.
I'd like to charge more but keep losing my nerve. Might try it again after this contest ends this week, but for now I'm back to my $6.99/9.99.
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I raised my onlyfans sub price from $13 to $25 and made in the last week what i made all month last month!
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hotmodel
Are there girls still making decent money on streamate at 9.99/12.99? seems exhausting after this covid crap =(. Just checking in to see if maybe its been slow because my rates are too high now?
My rates are 9.99/11.99 on Streamate, and I was considering the same thing. I was thinking about maybe lowering my private rate but keeping exclusive the same. However, I've noticed since this contest started that I'm starting to slip into a scarcity mindset, so I want to wait a week or two, get my head clear, and then assess it. I know that a lot of top models charge a lower private rate than me, but I try not to compare myself to other girls. I haven't been a camgirl for long, but July was my best month, August was the worst, and only beginning in September did my hourly average start to pick up again. It's still not where I want it to be though. I swear I have it in me to figure this camgirl thing out and make at least as much as I was when I was a stripper!
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Raised my phone rate to £4/$5 and made £100 in less than 20 mins tonight!
Don't quit ladies, keep em high/higher. Stick it out, it's worth it. Just add more income streams to keep yourself from becoming panicked if your main site is slow. It's nearly always NOT your rates but something else.
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clio
My rates are 9.99/11.99 on Streamate, and I was considering the same thing. I was thinking about maybe lowering my private rate but keeping exclusive the same. However, I've noticed since this contest started that I'm starting to slip into a scarcity mindset, so I want to wait a week or two, get my head clear, and then assess it. I know that a lot of top models charge a lower private rate than me, but I try not to compare myself to other girls. I haven't been a camgirl for long, but July was my best month, August was the worst, and only beginning in September did my hourly average start to pick up again. It's still not where I want it to be though. I swear I have it in me to figure this camgirl thing out and make at least as much as I was when I was a stripper!
I’ve noticed this re the private and exclusive rates too and considered the same thing. I’ve never done it though. I don’t often enjoy private’s as much as I do exclusives, cause I seem to get loads of domineering guys who start barking orders and try to take over, which is particularly annoying when someone else is being nice and trying to enjoy themselves. 9/10 they pick private to behave like that aswell. So if I lowered my private then I’m probably just going to invite loads of those types!!
I personally think you’d regret lowering your rates, I’d keep them where they are and work on bringing in regulars at that rate.
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Raised my phone rate to £4/$5 and made £100 in less than 20 mins tonight!
Don't quit ladies, keep em high/higher. Stick it out, it's worth it. Just add more income streams to keep yourself from becoming panicked if your main site is slow. It's nearly always NOT your rates but something else.
This is so true! I do get the panic and wanting to lower, I do, but it's rarely what is causing it to be quiet. Whenever I've dropped my group (or private on SM) rate, I've just attracted the kind of CRETINS I do not want in my room. I've also started tracking this to see if it pays off to work with lower rates. Now, I am lower in some places but still a rate I am *comfortable* charging. If I go too low, I put on a rubbish show as I don't want to be there. I earn more with higher rates across the board and have been tracking this a few months now. I've dropped the site which only allowed to me to charge rock bottom rates and it's paid off as I'm making the same amount with even a quick 2-minute show on any of my other sites. Thank you for that btw Susie, as it was you who encouraged me to do so. x
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Yep that was me.
My rates for the last few months have been $6.99/9.99 so nowhere near $9.99/12.99.
$4.99 definitely was not good, ugh... working too hard for too little and unpleasant guys.
I'd like to charge more but keep losing my nerve. Might try it again after this contest ends this week, but for now I'm back to my $6.99/9.99.
Thank you Laurie :) gonna try to stick it out with my rates on streamate. I signed up with camcontacts (I splitcam to) and normally my rates are high on every site but wondering if 9.99 is too high on this site? Sucks because majority of private based sites are gone. Imlive was the last one but that 12% is a joke and I just can't do it anymore. So, camcontacts is really the only private based site left :( just hoping that 9.99 on this site is ok? I tried reaching out to LCMD but she never responded about signing up on that site. I love how you could sell skype shows on there without a limit. I think the limit to skype shows is killing my earnings overall. But I guess will see. Trying to be more consistent but ugh that streamate free chat after so long makes me want to shoot my brains out lol
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Thanks ladies for chiming in :) I really appreciate it :) I'll stick it out and keep the rates up!
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Thank you Laurie :) gonna try to stick it out with my rates on streamate. I signed up with camcontacts (I splitcam to) and normally my rates are high on every site but wondering if 9.99 is too high on this site? Sucks because majority of private based sites are gone. Imlive was the last one but that 12% is a joke and I just can't do it anymore. So, camcontacts is really the only private based site left :( just hoping that 9.99 on this site is ok? I tried reaching out to LCMD but she never responded about signing up on that site. I love how you could sell skype shows on there without a limit. I think the limit to skype shows is killing my earnings overall. But I guess will see. Trying to be more consistent but ugh that streamate free chat after so long makes me want to shoot my brains out lol
Talk to HotWifeJollee? (spelling?) on Skype. She runs lCMS sister site GirlsPrivateCam so can help you sign up. You might as well sign up to GPC while you are at it as they combine payout.
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What rates would you ladies suggest for me since i haven't been camming on there very much in the last 2 years or so? I'd be split camming with it. I def don't wanna be sitting in a dead room but def don't wanna be only making pennies for each show either.
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hotmodel
Thank you Laurie :) gonna try to stick it out with my rates on streamate. I signed up with camcontacts (I splitcam to) and normally my rates are high on every site but wondering if 9.99 is too high on this site? Sucks because majority of private based sites are gone. Imlive was the last one but that 12% is a joke and I just can't do it anymore. So, camcontacts is really the only private based site left :( just hoping that 9.99 on this site is ok? I tried reaching out to LCMD but she never responded about signing up on that site. I love how you could sell skype shows on there without a limit. I think the limit to skype shows is killing my earnings overall. But I guess will see. Trying to be more consistent but ugh that streamate free chat after so long makes me want to shoot my brains out lol
Adult work and niteflirt are private based sites, and there are others like cam model directory, indiebill, and a few more I can't remember right now. You can also advertise shows through iwantclips and manyvids and other content sites . The key with all sites but ESPECIALLY non free chat ones is is you need to be bringing in your own clients. Work on marketing yourself and getting in front of as many eyes as possible. Whether you're higher or lower priced, you'll only earn if people find you. If you're directing traffic to yourself with social media, your website, and other funnels, that should be targeted traffic that is looking for you and will pay whatever you're charging :)