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She said she understands the risks but was still shocked by it.
you can comprehend the risks involved and still be saddened when it happens. IDK I get you guys are trying to tell ppl the cold heart truth but she admitted she understood, she's just venting?
Venting = / = I need advice and to be told Im an idiot. It is kind of like when people go to the "Stupid annoying shit" or the "Diary of real camgirls" threads and rush to tell people what theyre doing wrong. If she was like "holy shit you get recorded?? I had no idea!! How did this happen?!" then yes, most of the responses in this thread make sense. She's just venting and wanted support to move on. She moved on already and said she is using it as a motivator - why are ppl using this as an opportunity to snark and lecture?
I think ppl are being very kneejerk reactionary in their responses and arent really reading what she wrote. OK we are all big bad toughguy camgirls ok, fine, good for us for being somewhere others arent - we can pat ourselves on the back in another thread. but in this case she was just looking to vent.
Come on
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No, that wasn't even to you in particular. .lol..I wasn't trying to be an internet bully or anything along those lines. I saw that you understood. Apologies. I was venting, too. There are a lot of girls who are naive and they THINK they will never be outed or recorded and it bothered me from the get-go. Girls need to know that they will and that it happens in this line of business.. . more so when we sign contracts to the big boy sites.
I cried too when I was used as a popup because. .well. . who DOESN'T go to tube sites nowadays to get their rocks off on a free sex video? My family? My high school teachers? My older brother's friends that I grew up with? Kind of gross.
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Roast you are on point. Sure we're aware that it's a possibility but I think everyone of us deep down hopes it's not us! Mind you, you can't recognize me AT ALL on cam after the makeup, wig, contacts, contouring, cam settings, and I've recently added a fake tatt (you can't tell it's fake on cam lol!) Still, the first time I saw my content, my heart sank, then this turned in to RAGE complete with tears and a bloody fantasy! I wasn't able to think rationally within those first moments of discovering it. Not at all! Who could think about a contract or that it's bound to happen and all that other bs that's supposed to soothe or souls when all I wanted to do was castrate that fucker!!! Anyway, I have no real advice and I don't know how to help other than letting you know you're not alone. By the way crying is a very healthy reaction as it releases stress hormones. That's why you feel so much better after crying and sometimes think, what the hell was I crying for I feel fine lol.
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SweetPinkCupcake
No, that wasn't even to you in particular. .lol..I wasn't trying to be an internet bully or anything along those lines. I saw that you understood. Apologies. I was venting, too. There are a lot of girls who are naive and they THINK they will never be outed or recorded and it bothered me from the get-go. Girls need to know that they will and that it happens in this line of business.. . more so when we sign contracts to the big boy sites.
I cried too when I was used as a popup because. .well. . who DOESN'T go to tube sites nowadays to get their rocks off on a free sex video? My family? My high school teachers? My older brother's friends that I grew up with? Kind of gross.
i wasnt talking about you lol
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Oh. LOL!
I think it's time for bed. :P
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thanks for you're support !
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...thanks for you're support !
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TheBrownFox
Guys who do that shit are dumb. Why post videos of a private show/gold show/public cum show that YOU paid for, so that tons of other guys (who DIDN'T pay a damn thing for it) can see it for free? Does it make a guy feel like a BIG MAN to do shit like that? "Yeah, I'm gonna post this toy video on _____.com so everyone thinks I'm fucking cool." *rolls eyes* IDIOTS.....
Sorry it happened to you, wetmylipss.
Guys always share their porn collections. I don't really understand it either.
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Is it weird I got kind of excited when I saw myself recorded on another site? I felt like I must be hot and popular! :P
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How did u get the video removed?
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you dont forfeit copyright on every live camming and clips site guys. You dont. Please read your contracts and then DMCA carefully. That's a myth.
This is an EXTREMELY important distinction legally speaking. Indeed there are a handful of webcam hosts that do not include transfer of copyright in their 'contract'. Unfortunately, the most popular and lucrative webcam hosts DO include transfer of copyright. Legally speaking, this means that camgirls working for those webcam hosts have no 'legal standing' to request that images and videos of themselves that originated with their webcam host and wound up being posted at any other website be taken down. And this is true regardless of whether those images and videos were provided directly to the 3rd party websites by the webcam host, or whether those images and videos were 'ripped' and posted by customers.
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but I mean people like [porn star] have talked on twitter about having thousands of her videos that she owns copyright to and the sense of relief she got from it. Many porn stars and directors who are supposed to be 'used to' being pirated still hate it
All I can do is relay my own personal situation. I went to great length to retain copyright to my videos. Nonetheless, one day a fan e-mails me that one of my videos has been nominated for an award after having been shown on an eastern european TV network. The only problem, of course, was that I was totally unaware of this broadcast, that I had received zero compensation for this broadcast, thus the TV network was in clear violation of my copyright. After contacting them, I was basically given the option of travelling to that eastern european country ( at my own expense ) to appear in a local court where the judge would almost certainly favor the 'local' TV network over a 'foreigner', or to STFU and accept a token payment.
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all the girls with closed accounts with there pics up would still be active and they wouldn't have quit
This is indeed a fact that camgirls need to be aware of ... and to understand the implications of. It's a virtual certainty that, if a girl has appeared on webcam, images and videos of her are going to wind up being scattered throughout the net. It's an absolute certainty that, if the girl 'retires' from camming, those scattered images and videos are not going to disappear.
It's also an eventual certainty that image recognition technology, which is now primarily limited to gov'ts, police, etc., is going to become increasingly commonplace. This implies that, a couple of years from now, a prospective straight job employer doing a background check may submit your current picture to a service and in turn receive links to all of the adult content pics and videos scattered around the internet which share your face !!!
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wetmylipss
omg i feel like i started some big kitty war( Internet cat fight ) i only tried to help get the info out to other girls . some chicks would really make others not feel welcomed to this site at all.
no... it's just camming connection.
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wetmylipss
I know what i do and i knew that it could happen in my line of work.even tho i got the video removed(gold show) ,i still thought that only happened to super hot chicks with banging bodies who are well fan based. pffft not wetmylips the little six 7 month
Orrrrr perhaps he DID think you ARE a super hot chick with a banging body.
Yep, welcome to the reality of the internet. If you put it out there, someone can and probably will record it and save it. Frequently they'll post it for free. The only thing you can do is not perform in a way you'd be uncomfortable seeing online forever and routinely google your cam name and send cease and desist letters. There's a lot of stuff on how to do that in these forums.
I can totally understand how you'd be upset the first time you saw something like this. I'd be upset too. I'm sure that I was upset the first time I saw my stuff pirated. LOL, I STILL get mad for a few minutes* but don't worry, it'll be okay. The worst case scenarios you immediately think of like being stalked, etc can happen but rarely do. Hence "worst case scenarios".
You just got your first brush with "the dark side". It'll make you more cautious going forward and that's not a bad thing. My parents have always said, "learning comes from pain"
*and by minutes I mean hours
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lol Isobel I saw you posted and first thing I thought of :damn, she just closed the thread .. :D
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fridays
lol isobel i saw you posted and first thing i thought of :damn, she just closed the thread .. :d
bwa ha haaa! Mod powaaarrr!
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"it wasn;t me"
How can someone prove it was you?
Unless they ask for your ID from the sites they think they saw you at...
Prove it was me.
What you gonna do about it :O lol
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i understand SM wanting to put vids out there to promote and get traffic to the site, but what i will never understand is why they would put the whole show out there for free. like at least edit it down, so they won't just get they're rocks off for free. i think it is just pure laziness on they're part and if they put more thought in to what and where they are promoting, they can easily convert more PAYING traffic to the site. i understand that recordings of you, are all apart of the biz and i already outed myself as a camgirl in my personal life. but what would bother me about finding a recording of me online, is:
1. being a very unflattering vid
2. the posted vids of you have really mean and hurtful comments under it or in the title
3. very bad reviews of you (which could hurt ur camming career)
4. having ppl see a whole sex show of you and didn't/won't pay a damn dime.....
i feel most of us understand this issue, but that doesn't mean that it still doesn't hurt or that you are afraid of being outed, but just the pure fact that it is still shocking to find! it is still you and ur body and that doesn't mean that we still won't fight back against it.
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Is SM the worst site for doing this? Anyone had problems with MFC doing this? I recently started splitcamming between naked.com and SM, but I'm thinking I may try to find another site besides SM due to this concern. I know there's always a chance of being "outed"...but it seems like working on SM is greatly enhancing that possibility. :(
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^^working on MFC would make no difference, you would still get a shit ton of recordings of you from there. although MFC doesn't throw model's prvts out there like SM does, that doesn't mean the TONS of custies wont. my first week on MFC a guy emailed me a link to a vid he found of me on a tube site. i still have yet to find a recording of me from SM, that doesn't mean that there isn't any, it just means that i havn't found any yet. you might as well go indy, if you don't want it to happen as bad.
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I just want to say that a while ago, I found out that SM recorded my show "automatically" and attached it to my profile. I was pretty pissed because, aside from everything else, it was when I was brand new and the clip is really bad. HOWEVER, I got my first cammodels bonus from a guy seeing me in an ad (*sigh*), coming over and watching that vid and signing up. He has $$$ and doesn't mind spending it on me so even with just that one customer, I'm... more ok with it.
my biggest thing is that with those ads and vids on tube sites it's way easier for people to find out about you. People are going to see me for free... whatever. My dad, brother, boyfriends' friends etc. seeing me do stuff... not whatever.
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luscious sadie
HOWEVER, I got my first cammodels bonus from a guy seeing me in an ad (*sigh*), coming over and watching that vid and signing up. He has $$$ and doesn't mind spending it on me so even with just that one customer, I'm... more ok with it.
But Streamate doesn't ever post Cammodels links, and that is the only way you'd get any money if he signed up through it and then spent money on Streamate. They are never posted in ads, they are only given to models to use to recruit signups. And even then, if he signed up through your Cammodels link, you only get a percentage of what he spends on you or on other girls, not a signup bonus. The signup bonus ($40 per signup) you only get if you created an Mtree affiliate account and someone signed up under that link, but Streamate does not ever post your Mtree affiliate link obviously. So how does that work?
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This will happen to every camgirl. It will happen.
Its just a matter of time.
This is how we get to have traffic.
Its like the law of... camming.
Read the law ( lol). Read the contract. They own us.
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I know that when I go to cammodels.com and that he watched my video. I don't know beyond that. Didn't ask. He gave me money and said he found me through cammodels so who really cares!
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luscious sadie
I know that when I go to cammodels.com and that he watched my video. I don't know beyond that. Didn't ask. He gave me money and said he found me through cammodels so who really cares!
Ohhhh that's because Streamate randomly puts up full shows... usually gold shows, sometimes very vanilla private shows, for guys to watch for free their first week as a member. After that, they have to pay to watch it, but its pretty cheap. Its not on a tube site though, its on the actual site. But they also post those on tube sites.
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playboymegan
Is it weird I got kind of excited when I saw myself recorded on another site? I felt like I must be hot and popular! :P
I read that post and thought I'd totally be and I guess "ask and thou shall receive"
OK, it's not a video but a set of profile pictures + very explicit snapshots (I never post xxx for promotion) by the looks of them they are either from IL pvts or IL recorded sessions. Posted on tumblr 3 days ago and have ~187 notes, lol when I post camwhoring pictures myself they get 10 notes at most
I felt so popular and LOVED :-*
And the guy has actually airbrushed/photoshopped my face so I look almost flawless (I don't like one of the pictures but I guess it's my own fault for using it, well it's not that bad...)
I usually like to sit quietly, simmering with hatred for custies but that is so sweet~ :-*
lol sorry had to share ;D