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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
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Originally Posted by
charlie61
Part of it has to do with how they were brought up. I was brought up in a very white neighborhood...we literally had like two black kids in my entire high school. I simply didn't have exposure to other races.
Yes, this is exactly right.
It's worth mentioning that there are many successful white men who prefer WOC -- Bill Maher and Roger Ebert come to mind -- and in these cases it's because they've been socialized to expand their circle in that way. Ebert preferentially dated WOC through most of his adulthood.
To support what Charlie has written above: The circle of races that men are exposed to when they first go through puberty and then sexual maturity has an enormous impact on their choices, and older men in the U.S. matured in a (relatively) less integrated society. All humans use a mental "filter" to make sense of their environment, and a lot of this filter is constructed unconsciously. In the case of race-related sexual preferences, it's strongly affected by what race is around and available during the sexual maturation process.
On the flip side, this is also why successful white men often perceive WOC as "exotic," because within that limited bubble, they are exotic. And obviously many WOC have found a way to use that to their advantage.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
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Originally Posted by
All Good Things
Yes, this is exactly right.
It's worth mentioning that there are many successful white men who prefer WOC -- Bill Maher and Roger Ebert come to mind -- and in these cases it's because they've been socialized to expand their circle in that way. Ebert preferentially dated WOC through most of his adulthood.
To support what Charlie has written above: The circle of races that men are exposed to when they first go through puberty and then sexual maturity has an enormous impact on their choices, and older men in the U.S. matured in a (relatively) less integrated society. All humans use a mental "filter" to make sense of their environment, and a lot of this filter is constructed unconsciously. In the case of race-related sexual preferences, it's strongly affected by what race is around and available during the sexual maturation process.
On the flip side, this is also why successful white men often perceive WOC as "exotic," because within that limited bubble, they are exotic. And obviously many WOC have found a way to use that to their advantage.
Yup. The dirty secret buried here is that women work the EXACT same way.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
Wow "I hate white men"? Really? I all the sudden feel like a loser reading this thread. Negative and Nasty!
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
Ummm...seriously? People are attracted to whoever/whatever they are attracted to. Get off your high horse.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
I dont think the OP has a nasty attutide or that she is on a high horse, she is simply just venting (but in the worst way).
I understand the frustration of being rejected, but I dont really think race is the only factor. Could be so many things, picture quality, body type, hairstyle, etc.
On another note, I am not offended by guys who are not attracted to black women. It simply is just preference, just like how I am not really attracted to Asian or Indian men.
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Also, the absolute WORST thing you can do to your self esteem is to post a picture of another woman and compare your responses you get. There is a man out there for every woman! I have a friend who is dark skinned and she has MULTIPLE sugar daddies. Just gotta find em, money is worth it.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
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vixenluv
I had a profile up on some sugar daddy sites and I got very very few messages or profile views. Some guys didnt even respond to my messages :'( So I decided to do a little experiment and put up a picture of a young white girl with blonde hair and big boobs. My profile views have skyrocketed and Im getting all kinds of messages. When I look at these guys profiles alot of them either say flat out I only am attracted to white girls/i dont date outside my race/no african americans/etc :'( It seems like these guys only want a lily white young girl. And even if they do get a WOC she looks very racially ambiguous and its obvious she has some white in her. I hate white men :mad:
This is a perfect example of the entitlement mentality.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
^ If you take a few steps back -- this helps with perspective -- you may see that the men suffer from an entitlement mentality all their own.
It's that unseemly and vaguely repulsive entitlement that men who have a few dollars today think the dollars entitle them to exhibit.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
They are entitled to spend THEIR money as THEY choose. Does this come as a surprise?
It is a lot different from being “entitled” to someone else’s money just because you want it.
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^ I see that I'm not explaining this very well.
Two types of entitlement:
1. I have money, therefore I am entitled to use this money to buy the affection of a hot girl.
2. I am a hot girl, therefore I am entitled through my hot body to have a man spend his money for my affection.
Leaving aside the commodity argument and the fact that this transaction occurs in various diluted ways in the world every day, both sides can get distracted and ultimately derailed by thinking that their own form of currency -- cash or hotness -- qualifies as an entitlement in and of itself.
When the subject is human beings, neither side is "entitled" to anything.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
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Originally Posted by
All Good Things
Yes, this is exactly right.
It's worth mentioning that there are many successful white men who prefer WOC -- Bill Maher and Roger Ebert come to mind -- and in these cases it's because they've been socialized to expand their circle in that way. Ebert preferentially dated WOC through most of his adulthood.
To support what Charlie has written above: The circle of races that men are exposed to when they first go through puberty and then sexual maturity has an enormous impact on their choices, and older men in the U.S. matured in a (relatively) less integrated society. All humans use a mental "filter" to make sense of their environment, and a lot of this filter is constructed unconsciously. In the case of race-related sexual preferences, it's strongly affected by what race is around and available during the sexual maturation process.
On the flip side, this is also why successful white men often perceive WOC as "exotic," because within that limited bubble, they are exotic. And obviously many WOC have found a way to use that to their advantage.
I wonder if in their case it's because both have lived in major more openminded cities almost their adult life (Ebert in Chicago and Maher in NYC). I firmly believe that how one is raised and where they are raised makes a huge difference. I know for me I grew up in a diverse area and know a lot of interracial coulpes, including my brother and once asked my brother what made him attracted to my sister in law. He said he was turned on by her intelligence first and foremost (they were friends for years before dating). My sister in law is very educated (Northwestern University grad)and the best way to describe her is Oprah's look and talk alike. Meanwhile my brother was set up on dates with white women (before his wife)and was not interested, though he did date white women too. He wasn't interested because these weren't high class women and my brother despises scum.
I know for me what I was exposed to made me realize early on what I was attracted to.
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I'm surprised someone would ask such a question and then attack the race they want the attention from. Now on SD sites many of these men are up in age. 50+ You're having to deal with the times they were brought up in. Again why would you want someone that clearly isn't interested in you is beyond me. I've seen the SD blogs of SA and even WYP and there's always someone coming into the blog saying " what you don't like black girls" and going off. The only thing it does is paint a poor picture of your self esteem and the "going off part" makes you look sick. People are attracted to what they are attracted to and no one should force what they want on another person. It's their money and it's their choice. Actually looking on SA's blog one of the WOC there is actually receiving a nice allowance with gifts and trips and seems to be the only one in that blog that's doing so well. She's also in I think a 36-45 year old range, which is not the typical desire of most men there. Generally the desired age range is 18-23.
Most of the other women there are still looking. Did she just get lucky? or does she command what she feels she deserves and has found an SD that appreciates her far better than any of what the guys on that blog offer. Every once in a while one of the main bloggers there puts his profile number in and when you see the guy's picture and what he's offering $1,000 or less you realize that all of their talk is fairly cheap. I used to think the main bloggers were $8,000+ guys but the main guys are not even close. One guy makes about $300,000 a year and yet he's only offering $1,000-$2,000 a month. Another guy there is married and does P4P and seems to promote this way of treating SBs through each of his posts.You even have women and men laughing at the ladies that ask for $10,000 allowances and changing them down to $3,000. Why? because he may have wanted to meet the lady but with what she was asking he couldn't afford her and now he contacts her just to laugh and poke fun. You have to consider that the ugliest men with money can now feel wanted by women that would never have dated them at a young age or even now for free. The women are interested in the money only. Yes they'll have a relationship but realistically without the money these women wouldn't give these men the time of day. If anything I'm pretty sure they feel just as pissed off about that fact as you. So after some time and bitterness you'll have guys on that site trying to scam women, treating them like trash and so forth. I find most SD sites too time consuming where I could have already made a few grand after some fun cam shows. SA blog is a small fraction of all the members on the site.
Now many of the guys on those SD sites are fakes so you're probably lucking up on missing out on a bunch of time wasters. Consider yourself lucky in that regard. You should focus on writing a great profile and putting up your best pictures and showing the men that may find you attractive that you are worth every penny.
You feeling rejected and then turning around and reversing that rejection could make you look like a loose cannon. You don't want me? Well f*** you! The number one rule that most SD's want SB's to adhere to is NO DRAMA. Show that you're dramatic and they'll see you as a problem that they're glad to avoid.
Some of the most sought after women on that site have been treated like $99 special prostitutes.
I even read one WOC went and contacted a man that was only interested in white women. She turned him around and he started seeing her desired allowance. So again it can happen, you just need to put yourself out there and hope to hell you have time to sift through all the bullshit. Personally most women of any race that are already in the adult industry may find those sites exhausting with time that could be better used for either a real relationship, finding an SD off those sites or just doing her job.
In cam,phone, stripping and escort work women can meet SD types with ease. Some guys will pay through the nose to have an exclusive relationship with a woman they already know or have made a connection with.
$1000 a month to maybe sleep with some married man , that wants unprotected sex , texts, phone calls, long dates 2-3 days a week that end up being overnighters so 5-8 hrs , exclusivity where he can sleep around but I have to play the kept woman, dropping what I'm doing on a moment's notice, lets not forget that he'll probably be fat, have sexual problems etc.
You also have to realize that many of the guys that used to be on clist are now on SD sites looking to trick women into sex for $0 or sex for cheap$150-$300 yet don't want escorts that will tell them to hit the road after they blow.
There was a girl that came into the blog talking about how some guy made an arrangement for $1000 a month and instead had sex with her 10 times in one night saying " don't rush me" and threw her $500 and left. Can you even image being treated like that?
Ohh and I read another blog post about STi's that was rather fun seeing how 1 sugar baby asked 3 sugar daddies to get tested and 2 came back with some incurable shit. Skin color should be the last thing on your mind when you should be worrying about something growing on the skin of your genitalia.
The Sugar Bowl has gotten rather dirty and you have to really think about who is really contacting you and what are they REALLY OFFERING YOU. You could have some bills paid today but may end up with a lifetime of oozing lesions.
Entitlement is frown on there. You should do best to avoid displaying that if you can.
You can't act like you're about the money, it's a weird dynamic. You have to act like you don't need the money but if you act like you don't then that bothers them too. It's really a delicate balance of being confident but not being too sure of yourself. Being self sufficient but being grateful for some of the crumbs that may be tossed your way.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
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Vyanka
This applies to all women. Don't focus on men who don't want you. Whether it be for business or pleasure. Focus on the ones who want you. Don't waste your energy wondering why so & so doesn't like you. This kind of thinking doesn't help you. It's their lost. ;-)
Yes! Why do people complain when a certain group doesn't like them? When I was dancing I noticed the young white frat boys did not generally like me though I was their race and income level. Instead of sitting in a corner crying I sought out the men who were attracted, which were older professional men.
Obviously with dating it is a bit different and frustrated when we are only attracted to certain groups who don't like us. I tend to favor certain looks in dating, namely nice looking in shape men with educated jobs. After all since I am nice looking and educated I figured they would like me too. Sadly, in my case that is not true and it does get frustrating. It really stinks dating people who aren't your type but sometimes one needs to go out of their comfort level.
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Its true that most of the guys on the SD sites are fakes...so when it comes down to it...who cares what they think? :D
Swapping out pics, making up profiles, doing all of that for an informal survey of what guys who want to take advantage of women who want the money they do not have accomplishes nothing. Except perhaps spark a lively debate!
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I know I'm late to this party but I'll add my 2 cents. I have rarely ever seen this phenomenon of white men not being interested in black women. Of course I know it exists but I get about the same amount of appointments from white men as I do black men. And I live in the south and I am black black. Not light-skinned, not mixed but full dark-skinned. I don't market myself in a way to attract more white customers than black or vice versa. I just post ads and I wait and I always get white men. I've even had weeks where I've been like "damn am I gonna get any black clients this week". In fact today has been one of those days. WHite men have liked black women since forever. They may not all be open with it. They may not tell their friends (or their wives lol) but they like us. And they don't just like certain kinds of black women. Some like ghetto ones. Some like proper ones. But that's just life. Everyone likes something different. Someone mentioned they don't like girls with big asses. Please! My ass is huge. 45 inches to be exact and they love it. Now am I saying all white men or men in general love it? OF course not. Guys who don't like that, don't contact me. Just like guys who like thick girls don't call girls who are a size 2. They go for what they like. Plain and simple.
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Youre going to make me cry :D When I was camming, I used to advertise my 45" ass...then after my breakup, I was fast losing weight...went down to 43", then down to 40"..and I didnt say anything, but guys were all...wow, youve lost weight..whered your ass go?! *tears*
And to top it off...even kiddo told me shes happy I lost weight, cause before, we couldnt go anywhere without guys trying to stop and talk to me (white and latino both)...and she was like...now that you lost weight we can go out and nobody bothers us. *tears*
Im not thin, but I dont have that crazy curve anymore...so I just look like your average run of the mill girl, with a maybe bigger than usual butt, but nothing to go ga ga over anymore. Even white men, actually Id even say..definitely white men.
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BlkSharpie
Youre going to make me cry :D When I was camming, I used to advertise my 45" ass...then after my breakup, I was fast losing weight...went down to 43", then down to 40"..and I didnt say anything, but guys were all...wow, youve lost weight..whered your ass go?! *tears*
And to top it off...even kiddo told me shes happy I lost weight, cause before, we couldnt go anywhere without guys trying to stop and talk to me (white and latino both)...and she was like...now that you lost weight we can go out and nobody bothers us. *tears*
Im not thin, but I dont have that crazy curve anymore...so I just look like your average run of the mill girl, with a maybe bigger than usual butt, but nothing to go ga ga over anymore. Even white men, actually Id even say..definitely white men.
I can't take any credit. It's all genetics and I get it from both sides. So no matter how much weight I lose, it's still there. The same thing with my boobs. I can be 95lbs but my boobs will never be lower than a 40 DDD. It's insane but it's my saving grace because as long as my boobs stick out further than my stomach and my hips are wider than my midsection, I can still maintain the hourglass and look good lol.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
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cherryblossomsinspring
There was a girl that came into the blog talking about how some guy made an arrangement for $1000 a month and instead had sex with her 10 times in one night saying " don't rush me" and threw her $500 and left..
10 times in one night..... Lol.
Must be a youngin. ;D
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Luckeeeeey! LoL!!!!!
I do have to say, I mean...my butt is still big by average standards. Its just not as big as it used to be that I really liked...*le sigh!* The only time I literally lost my butt was many years ago when I was down to a size 2. But my breasts...they stay exactly the same no matter what...from size 2 to size 14 and everything inbetween..they look exactly the same. Mother nature totally cheated me out of puberty :D
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pinkcherrypie
I dont think the OP has a nasty attutide or that she is on a high horse, she is simply just venting (but in the worst way).
I understand the frustration of being rejected, but I dont really think race is the only factor. Could be so many things, picture quality, body type, hairstyle, etc.
On another note, I am not offended by guys who are not attracted to black women. It simply is just preference, just like how I am not really attracted to Asian or Indian men.
Oh her horse is high lol. I'm not offended by who other people are attracted to....sorry.
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I'd like to tell the OP to come to PA. The other day I was going around for my tips and I see this cute little metalhead.(In PA we have the "tip walk") Long hair, tattoos the whole shebang. I'm thinking "Jackpot!!!" He pretty much ignored me and I'm cussing him out " You don't like blonde hair and fake tits?" Turns out he only likes black girls. So there are a TON out there and not everyone wants a (faux) blonde with (faux) tits
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mikef
10 times in one night..... Lol.
Must be a youngin. ;D
No I don't think the guy was young he was a John trying to see how far he could get this girl to "trick". I don't think he was a guy with a high sex drive either. He knew very well that if he got an escort he would probably only get to go twice and have to leave after an hour at around $300. Get a sugar baby that doesnt know any better and push her do a all nighter. Some of those old guys are just really fucking cruel so they take out their frustrations on those young women.
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tashataboo
BTW: race is in quotes because there is no biological evidence that it is real. Humans are of one race.
I love this sentence; it is true, there is only one human race. After all, all the other races of human beings are extinct.
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Re: Why are so many wealthy white men not attracted to women of color?
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Originally Posted by
vixenluv
I had a profile up on some sugar daddy sites and I got very very few messages or profile views. Some guys didnt even respond to my messages :'( So I decided to do a little experiment and put up a picture of a young white girl with blonde hair and big boobs. My profile views have skyrocketed and Im getting all kinds of messages. When I look at these guys profiles alot of them either say flat out I only am attracted to white girls/i dont date outside my race/no african americans/etc :'( It seems like these guys only want a lily white young girl. And even if they do get a WOC she looks very racially ambiguous and its obvious she has some white in her. I hate white men :mad:
Promise me you won't think I'm a racist for this...
But it's the stereotypes, unfortunately.
Black women are often stereotyped as loud/lazy/needy/demanding welfare queens, and to them, the fact that you're on a SD website reinforces that notion. EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT PROBABLY NOT TRUE.
Unfortunately, this doesn't tend to apply to women of other races.
White women seem to portray every dirty ol' man's fantasy of a hot college sorority girl. lol
Asians are seen as adorable little sex brides to purchase.
Latinas seem to either become lumped in the white or Asian category.
So maybe portray either the White or Asian image in your wording!
Hope this helps...but I don't know, since I'm White myself. :-X