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any advice on getting a summer visa to work in us for the summer?
Hi Im from Ireland but I have done stripping in the uk for abit but would love to try stripping in the U.S. just for the summer for a nice working holiday, is this possible thanks x
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Re: any advice on getting a summer visa to work in us for the summer?
It's very difficult to get a work visa for the US, and it'll be next to impossible to get one for stripping. Of course, there are clubs that don't necessarily check for these things, but those kind of clubs tend to look the other way for other reasons as well (like extras, for one thing).
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Re: any advice on getting a summer visa to work in us for the summer?
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camille27
lie like everyone else and say you're taking a holiday? or sign up for a community college and get a student visa. or just lie, that's probably easier, and if you show up at a club with a heavy accent, they'll put two and two together.
Student visas are very limited in the permitted employment. I believe the job must be on campus and there's a limit to the number of hours one can work per week. Basically, a strip club wouldn't fly. If the city doesn't require a dancer's license, it's possible that the club would look the other way, but this would be highly elaborate for a short working holiday, especially since there's no guarantee it would work.
OP - are you set on visiting the US? It would be exponentially easier for you to work (legally to boot) in Canada. There's a youth mobility scheme between the UK and Common Wealth countries, and it includes Ireland, so if you're 18-35, you can get a 12-month work permit fairly easily.
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Re: any advice on getting a summer visa to work in us for the summer?
It's possible if you're in school in the UK/Ireland. There's a few companies that you can go through to get a 4-month work and travel visa without listing a specialty job or even being hired before you get here, one of the really reputable ones is http://www.bunac.org/uk/workamerica/ . You have to book your flights through them and pay a fee, and they organize it all for you. It's only available for students or those who just graduated though.
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Re: any advice on getting a summer visa to work in us for the summer?
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camille27
lie like everyone else and say you're taking a holiday? or sign up for a community college and get a student visa. or just lie, that's probably easier, and if you show up at a club with a heavy accent, they'll put two and two together.
To be approved for a student visa you have to show the embassy that you already have the funds to cover at least one full year of tuition fees at the college's international student rate. Even at a really cheap community college, you'd have to have at least $10-$15K in the bank to get the visa in the first place.
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Re: any advice on getting a summer visa to work in us for the summer?
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camille27
lie like everyone else and say you're taking a holiday?
or just lie, that's probably easier...
Wow. You're a peach.
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Gosh I'd love to work in the US! Sounds like such a hassle though :(
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Re: any advice on getting a summer visa to work in us for the summer?
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camille27
i'm just giving honest feedbacks. this is how most of the dancers i know who do not have work visa got in.
i'm an immigrant and it's hard to get into this country. if you are not a rich white male, at some point, you will lie during your application process or you will not get in. let's not turn this into a citizenship debate because i find that people born in the united states haven't the slightest idea how one gets into this country. the majority lie to get in. it's not that big of a deal.
most of the dancers i've worked with would laugh at the idea of applying for a work visa. they lie and work under the guise of holiday or they do the community college route. and let's be honest. if you're irish, you can fly under the radae very easily.
Actually it is a big deal to lie to get into this country. If one is found lying they will more than likely be deported. As for the idea that it's only easy for white males to get into this country, I have never heard of that. Btw, I do happen to know how people get in LEGALLY because my paternal grandmother was a British citizen, never became a citizen and she explained how she came here (she was married to an American serviceman).
Op the best way to consider this is what was mentioned and that is come here on a student visa and go to a city where you don't need a license, like mentioned above. Most clubs I worked at never asked about my citizenship or not.
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Kellydancer
Actually it is a big deal to lie to get into this country. If one is found lying they will more than likely be deported. As for the idea that it's only easy for white males to get into this country, I have never heard of that. Btw, I do happen to know how people get in LEGALLY because my paternal grandmother was a British citizen, never became a citizen and she explained how she came here (she was married to an American serviceman).
Op the best way to consider this is what was mentioned and that is come here on a student visa and go to a city where you don't need a license, like mentioned above. Most clubs I worked at never asked about my citizenship or not.
Times have changed a LOT since then. My father is an immigrant, both to Canada and the USA, as is his wife is to the USA.. and she's not white. There's some truth in what camille is saying. My dad's wife is from a poor and dangerous South American country, and she had to employ some.. "creative navigation" if you will. I'm lucky in that I am a dual citizen, but most people aren't that fortunate. You do what you have to do to accomplish your goals. A great example of this is Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Dutch parliament member who lied to get amnesty from Somalia: .
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camille27
"Btw, I do happen to know how people get in LEGALLY because my paternal grandmother was a British citizen"
so she was white.
immigration is not looking for canadians and brits who overstay their visas. be serious. is it a big deal to lie? i guess, but the majority of applicants, particularly non-white ones, will have to lie at some point to get into the united states. there are quotas in place but this is getting off topic and since you are using your interpretation of your grandmother's experience and i'm using my own firsthand experience, let's just assume that one is more accurate and relevant than the other.
So what if she was white? Immigration doesn't base anything on race they base it on whether that person will be able to work or study. Since my grandmother was married to an American citizen she probably had an advantage, NOT because she was white. Maybe the reason immigration is not letting in other groups is because maybe they tend to be less educated than other people and less likely to work? I'm just guessing but if so then that makes sense since we don't need any freeloaders in this country we have enough of our own. However I doubt that immigration bases anything on race, but rather nationality, which they should.
Anyone who LIES to get into this country needs to be deported I don't care what color they are, they need to go. Admitting that it's fine to come into this country is wrong, come in LEGALLY. Bragging about coming here illegally is shameful and infuriates me since my grandmother came here legally. But I forget she was white so she got in automatically but if she was another race she would be denied since immigration only likes white people.
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Kellydancer
So what if she was white? Immigration doesn't base anything on race they base it on whether that person will be able to work or study. Since my grandmother was married to an American citizen she probably had an advantage, NOT because she was white. Maybe the reason immigration is not letting in other groups is because maybe they tend to be less educated than other people and less likely to work? If so then that makes sense since we don't need any freeloaders in this country we have enough of our own. However I doubt that immigration bases anything on race, but rather nationality, which they should.
Anyone who LIES to get into this country needs to be deported I don't care what color they are, they need to go. Admitting that it's fine to come into this country is wrong, come in LEGALLY. Bragging about coming here illegally is shameful and infuriates me since my grandmother came here legally. But I forget she was white so she got in automatically but if she was another race she would be denied since immigration only likes white people.
Without knowing every single solitary immigrant's story, this is an unfair statement.
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If they come here illegally they need to go. Harsh yes but we have way too many people here who come illegally, drain financial resources, often work under the table and other issues. People that are going to do well here should be able to come legally. However, a majority of those who come here illegally are often uneducated and we don't need more of these people to support because many will need assistance.
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Re: any advice on getting a summer visa to work in us for the summer?
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Kellydancer
If they come here illegally they need to go. Harsh yes but we have way too many people here who come illegally, drain financial resources, often work under the table and other issues. People that are going to do well here should be able to come legally. However, a majority of those who come here illegally are often uneducated and we don't need more of these people to support because many will need assistance.
I didn't want to go this route but this is such a hateful one I'm going to throw this out there.
My friend C came here when he was 11 years old from a very violent South American country, where a lot of his relatives were killed in political killings. His parents had visas, but had to smuggle the children into the country. I'm not going to give details as to why (too much identifying information, it's a pretty unique situation), but they didn't have a choice, especially considering their timeline and the imminent danger. He went to school on a student visa and a tax ID number, but a few of the "facts" on his application were doctored up and/or paid for. He is now 28 years old, and married to a citizen, and just became legal 2 years ago.
As far as uneducated: his father was a cardiologist in their country. Stop being ignorant.
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They do have exceptions for refugees which is what those people are. However, the majority are not like that at all. Besides his father has a degree, which in many cases is an exception.
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Kellydancer
They do have exceptions for refugees which is what those people are. However, the majority are not like that at all. Besides his father has a degree, which in many cases is an exception.
I think you're limiting your perspective to the stereotypical Mexican immigrants not a global view. I could name a ton of people i know like this: my friend E from Bulgaria who was a lawyer in her country.. she came to the USA and had to wait tables, or take her entire law education over again. My friend C who was a volleyball player at his college in Morocco but his family was too destitute to continue to finance his education.. so he came here and became a taxi driver so he could provide for his young nephew who came with him because his nephew's father wanted a better life for him. My friend T from Romania who offered me $20k to marry him so he could stay in the USA and finish his education, his visa was running out. My friends M and E from Poland, E became a stripper so she could provide for herself and her husband M, who was a brilliant photographer.
Would you like me to go on?
Expand your world view, Kelly. This is obviously not a subject that you have a lot of firsthand experience with, and you're simply regurgitating media sensationalism. You obviously have no clue what it takes to get refugee or amnesty status.
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I have no issues with people coming here LEGALLY however no, if someone comes here ILLEGALLY in most cases they need to be deported. Has nothing to do with race, I've known Europeans who come here illegally they need to go too. Illegal means against the law. And I do have a lot of experience with immigration, having worked with an immigrant rights organization so I happen to know a lot about this. I also taught ESL. I also have relatives who have come here whether it was to be forever or just school and yes I have relatives in other countries, including ones that aren't white. I have no issue with immigrants, I have an issue with immigrants who come here illegally, especially if they take welfare which happens sometimes and which is a serious problem in Illinois.
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It's staunch, hard nosed, closed minded views that make me want to leave this country. Unfortunately, every time I leave I keep getting dragged back here and getting more aggravated as time goes on. Maybe if there's such a huge problem with this, the immigration standards should be revisited and the USA should stop acting like they're some awesome exclusive club. There are plenty of other countries which accept and work with immigrants in a positive and beneficial manner. Fact: if you deported EVERYONE who falsified ANY portion, even the tiniest most remote detail, you'd be SHOCKED how many people would be on that list. Probably even my own parents, even though my sister and I have legal citizenship here.
Also: I know what "illegal" means. I did pass the third grade.
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To the OP, there are several cities which are more lenient than others. PM me and I'll give you a few leads.
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there are immigration quotas for every country. honestly, i think you just like to be ornery and type nonsense.
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Kellydancer
So what if she was white? Immigration doesn't base anything on race they base it on whether that person will be able to work or study.
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camille27
there are immigration quotas for every country. honestly, i think you just like to be ornery and type nonsense.
Well if that's the case then I am taking after you. You were the one who typed the nonsense about bragging that you came here illegally then blamed white men for you not being able to come here legally. Yes all white men have an agenda to keep everyone else out, does that make you happy?
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mediocrity
It's staunch, hard nosed, closed minded views that make me want to leave this country. Unfortunately, every time I leave I keep getting dragged back here and getting more aggravated as time goes on. Maybe if there's such a huge problem with this, the immigration standards should be revisited and the USA should stop acting like they're some awesome exclusive club. There are plenty of other countries which accept and work with immigrants in a positive and beneficial manner. Fact: if you deported EVERYONE who falsified ANY portion, even the tiniest most remote detail, you'd be SHOCKED how many people would be on that list. Probably even my own parents, even though my sister and I have legal citizenship here.
Also: I know what "illegal" means. I did pass the third grade.
I am all for the USA revisting the immigration rules because I don't want people coming here to enforce their views on Americans or taking advantage of the system. I'd be very thrilled if all of the immigrants who fall into these categories were prevented from coming here. Like I mentioned earlier I am fine with hard working immigrants coming here, learning English (or knowing it)and working hard. I am NOT fine with immigrants coming here to collect welfare or expect me to learn their language or try to get the US to cater to their views. I have faith that most immigrants fall into this category but once again they need to come here legally.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiosity
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Kellydancer
Well if that's the case then I am taking after you. You were the one who typed the nonsense about bragging that you came here illegally then blamed white men for you not being able to come here legally. Yes all white men have an agenda to keep everyone else out, does that make you happy?
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You know what, you aren't even worth it. I will not take your bait. Instead you will blissfully go on ignore.
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Kelly... lately, I've been reading a lot of threads that turn nasty because you insist on talking about what you are "fine with" and then persist in explaining how your personal experiences and opinions should be used to govern the lives of others. I'm not trying to attack you or your right to express your opinions, but I just don't understand why this keeps happening. As far as what you cite as "your" experience with immigration, your grandmother most likely had an easy time with the system because, as you stated, she married an American citizen--that's known as the "fast track" to becoming a permanent resident. Not everyone has the time or money to do things the legal way. I know several people who are here because they would have otherwise been killed or trafficked in their countries. Marrying into the country wasn't an option. I couldn't ask them to go back to their countries to likely die in poverty and under tyranny while waiting for their paperwork to go through in order to appease my "patriotism." Food for thought.
OP: The only people I've known who were able to get work visas over here were youths aged 18-25 who worked either at a ski school in Houston as instructors or at a local Schlitterbahn in unskilled positions. Both of these places are known for hiring foreign youths during the summer, though I'm unsure if they have any particular motivation other than giving those they hire the opportunity to see the States and work, as you'd like. From what I understand, it's only through such agencies that younger people get the opportunity to work in the States on visas. My German friend couldn't work her while she was an exchange student, though she found it much easier in Australia (she was also 18 by the time she went to Australia, but was 17 while in the States). Judging by their experiences, I'd side with the people saying it'd be near impossible for you to get a work visa to strip in the States this summer. I don't think it's a moral outrage for you to consider working where a club may not be so interested in your citizenship or visa, but keep in mind that the consequences could be severe if you were found out.
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I have a problem with people BREAKING THE LAW. Laws are there for a reason and we have to obey them even if we don't approve. And yes I do have a problem with this because guess what? many of those who come illegally end up on assistance and that affects my wallet. I don't want to pay for them, I'd rather help AMERICAN citizens. Even the ones who don't get assistance they are doing something that is against the law. I don't know how this isn't easy to understand, people who break the law should be punished. Not to mention that it affects those who come legally. The reasons many threads turn nasty (and not just ones I post in)is because way too many people here are perfectly fine for people to pay more in taxes to support those who choose not to support themselves. I have to wonder how many who are fine with paying more in taxes pay any taxes? Your perspective changes when you pay more.
Trust me when many of you start paying a lot in taxes you will look at this differently. Or if you came to Illinois and saw a huge majority of illegals are on welfare here then you would change your opinion very quick. Even when they aren't on assistance we are usually helping them with education and other programs because most don't pay enough in taxes.