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That is a very awesome post .. thanks!!!! me being almost 40 and don't really want to adapt to change.. I must always remember i have to.. and honestly have NO choice.. I have changed alot doing cam since i first started.. In free chat .. if there was such thing.. which there virtually was not..lol.. I have changed from only showing face.. to cleavage.. now standing up occasionally .. and to accepting tips for flashing... .. i would NOT even accept tips before.. and now HD I had to adapt or get out.. that's your only choice.. thanks for your post
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Originally Posted by
tinydancer23
this is something i've been working out in my brain and the verified section and i wanted to post it publicly but wasn't sure where to post it. i didn't want to start a new thread, so i thought i'd post it here.
i'm not really into positive psychology/name it and claim it/the secret/whatever. so this observation doesn't have anything to do with that. and occasionally i need a place to vent too so i respect that people need to vent about how they're having a shitty day and i love that this thread exists because of that.
but i wanted to throw something out there as food for thought...
why does camming suck? stop and think about it. i see so many girls saying - camming sucks because it used to be easier/more lucrative/whatever. i wish camming was the way it used to be. i don't make as much money as i did last year/ten years ago/whatever.
there is such a thing as longing for the "old days," nostalgia, thinking that things used to be better and actively wishing that they would be the way they were before to the point of being in complete denial about change - to the point that it literally stunts growth (of yourself emotionally, of your business, of the situation as a whole).
anytime there is a massive change or shift in ANY situation, most people experience this. it is an actual psychological phenomenon. it sucks us in and causes us to stagnate. the fact is, things will NEVER be "how they used to be." ever. they might be better or worse qualitatively than they are in this moment, but they will never be THE SAME as they were 1 or 3 or 5 or 10 years ago. wishing for them to be the same is a completely futile exercise, a waste of time, and a vacation in the land of denial. just because our mind is capable of dwelling in the past does not mean that time, or the camming business, can live in the past or move backwards. time and camming are always moving forward. we have to move forward and shift our perceptions.
i think there's value in saying that we have to focus on the positive and adapt or die, but i also think it's important to name the one thing that is keeping a lot of girls from adapting - and that is wishing things could be the way they used to be.
in terms of the causes of the decline people are seeing...so many people throw around different reasons. some of the ones i've heard are: streamate bought cheap traffic, gold shows brought about the apocalypse, other girls are charging low prices and showing pussy in free chat, etc. etc. etc.
the truth is...you cannot control streamate (or mfc or whatever other site). you cannot control who is in your room and whether they spend. you cannot control what other girls are doing. you cannot control the availability of gold shows. so yeah, all of these things COULD be causes, maybe they are, but it really doesn't matter because you cannot control them.
what each girl is doing individually may not be the cause of declined traffic. i'm not saying we should all blame ourselves. BUT...we are all we have control over. so adapt. move forward. focus on what camming's like today instead of what it was like last tuesday or march 31st, 2001. obsessing over how camming used to be and about all the supposed causes of why it's not like that anymore isn't helping your bank account. but i can guarantee that logging in will.
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I never think endlessly whining is a good idea. However, I don't think being positive is always a good thing. Sometimes it's helpful to discuss the negatives of the industry so camgirls are aware of these things. I think we all know that in the end, it's up to us. Not turning on the cam=for sure no money.
But I'm glad that people discuss the changes in the sites, because it's all part of the business. And it helps newbies to the site realize that it's not really that easy or lucrative as they might be led to believe, which is helpful.
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i'm not saying people should be constantly positive. sometimes shit just sucks.
i am saying that constantly worrying about site trends or whatever to the point that people do on this forum is counterproductive because we have no control over these things. in a limited sense, knowing this info can be helpful for newbies and it can be helpful for people to adapt to new business models. only individuals can gauge whether it's doing something good for their business. but in my experience, the constant focus on how camming used to be and why it's not that way any more is an exercise in futility and frustration. we don't have any control over that. we do have control over what we do right now.
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men are manipulative, charming and looking for a bargain.. what else is there?? the sooner you learn this the more money you will make! It's an ebb and flow.. you have to work with what you have and rise to the challenge.. ( no pun intended)... you gotta be smarter than them..
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Originally Posted by
Charlotteslut
I never think endlessly whining is a good idea. However, I don't think being positive is always a good thing. Sometimes it's helpful to discuss the negatives of the industry so camgirls are aware of these things. I think we all know that in the end, it's up to us. Not turning on the cam=for sure no money.
But I'm glad that people discuss the changes in the sites, because it's all part of the business. And it helps newbies to the site realize that it's not really that easy or lucrative as they might be led to believe, which is helpful.
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Originally Posted by
tinydancer23
this is something i've been working out in my brain and the verified section and i wanted to post it publicly but wasn't sure where to post it. i didn't want to start a new thread, so i thought i'd post it here.
i'm not really into positive psychology/name it and claim it/the secret/whatever. so this observation doesn't have anything to do with that. and occasionally i need a place to vent too so i respect that people need to vent about how they're having a shitty day and i love that this thread exists because of that.
but i wanted to throw something out there as food for thought...
why does camming suck? stop and think about it. i see so many girls saying - camming sucks because it used to be easier/more lucrative/whatever. i wish camming was the way it used to be. i don't make as much money as i did last year/ten years ago/whatever.
there is such a thing as longing for the "old days," nostalgia, thinking that things used to be better and actively wishing that they would be the way they were before to the point of being in complete denial about change - to the point that it literally stunts growth (of yourself emotionally, of your business, of the situation as a whole).
anytime there is a massive change or shift in ANY situation, most people experience this. it is an actual psychological phenomenon. it sucks us in and causes us to stagnate. the fact is, things will NEVER be "how they used to be." ever. they might be better or worse qualitatively than they are in this moment, but they will never be THE SAME as they were 1 or 3 or 5 or 10 years ago. wishing for them to be the same is a completely futile exercise, a waste of time, and a vacation in the land of denial. just because our mind is capable of dwelling in the past does not mean that time, or the camming business, can live in the past or move backwards. time and camming are always moving forward. we have to move forward and shift our perceptions.
i think there's value in saying that we have to focus on the positive and adapt or die, but i also think it's important to name the one thing that is keeping a lot of girls from adapting - and that is wishing things could be the way they used to be.
in terms of the causes of the decline people are seeing...so many people throw around different reasons. some of the ones i've heard are: streamate bought cheap traffic, gold shows brought about the apocalypse, other girls are charging low prices and showing pussy in free chat, etc. etc. etc.
the truth is...you cannot control streamate (or mfc or whatever other site). you cannot control who is in your room and whether they spend. you cannot control what other girls are doing. you cannot control the availability of gold shows. so yeah, all of these things COULD be causes, maybe they are, but it really doesn't matter because you cannot control them.
what each girl is doing individually may not be the cause of declined traffic. i'm not saying we should all blame ourselves. BUT...we are all we have control over. so adapt. move forward. focus on what camming's like today instead of what it was like last tuesday or march 31st, 2001. obsessing over how camming used to be and about all the supposed causes of why it's not like that anymore isn't helping your bank account. but i can guarantee that logging in will.
*STANDING FUCKING OVATION*
Thank you!!!
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It's almost off page two! Quick! I need a priest over here (or possibly a cleric)!
*casts resurrection*
Phew. There. Don't need people forgetting this is here.
In other news: I get back on cam later this week. I'm not sick anymore! Here's hoping that the internet hasn't exploded while I was away. Because shitty camming makes for bad paying-rent-deposit-on-time-ness.
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Decalyn
It's almost off page two! Quick! I need a priest over here (or possibly a cleric)!
*casts resurrection*
Phew. There. Don't need people forgetting this is here.
In other news: I get back on cam later this week. I'm not sick anymore! Here's hoping that the internet hasn't exploded while I was away. Because shitty camming makes for bad paying-rent-deposit-on-time-ness.
I am so happy you are back, I've really missed you! :dance:
Now answer the dang PM I sent to you here, already. :wife:
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Wow. you guys weren't kidding. I was on yesterday for 6 hours and only made $40. Today, I've been on for 3 hours and have only made $5. This is depressing and it's really hard to keep a smile on my face and not be all pessimistic when no one will pay for me. I'm sore from sitting down for so long, I'm bored, and seriously pissed off. I haven't been on cam in a few months and went from averaging $50-$60 an hour to averaging pretty much nothing. Even my first day ever camming I made more than this. If someone knows a better website please PM me bc this is ridiculous :'(
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when the recession hit my cam life came to a screeching halt.. I practically froze up and panicked. All of a sudden my once paying regulars turned into all free loading regulars just sitting there squatting in my free chat holding me captive.. It was a mess.. I actually felt sorry for them.. they used to pay and they wanted to be there but now had NO money along with the dudes who never do.. It was not fun.. I was so angry and upset all the time.. I sometimes only made 17 or 20 bucks for an entire day.. NO exaggeration.. I came unglued alot.. then i just started to really focus.. and for the first time in my cam career I had to remain calm and push .. like i was selling them a NEW heart.. sorry but most sites are pretty dead.. I am on tons of them.. 2 phone sex sites.. 4 indy sites, and about 8 commercial sites or so.. Looking for more now.. Not sure if you believe! but we just came out of mercury retrograde yesterday and for me I have noticed a huge difference.. I hit my minimum goal today in less than 4 hours which is good for me.. yesterday I worked over 8 hours and don't even think i made it.. so things are looking up and then they tell me i can do gold shows today first time ever.. i want to but i am afraid.. but fear is no good.. I need to think about this.. i dont know if this is only a thursday thing or what.. but really don't wanna miss my chance
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Lights
Wow. you guys weren't kidding. I was on yesterday for 6 hours and only made $40. Today, I've been on for 3 hours and have only made $5. This is depressing and it's really hard to keep a smile on my face and not be all pessimistic when no one will pay for me. I'm sore from sitting down for so long, I'm bored, and seriously pissed off. I haven't been on cam in a few months and went from averaging $50-$60 an hour to averaging pretty much nothing. Even my first day ever camming I made more than this. If someone knows a better website please PM me bc this is ridiculous :'(
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Something has definitely changed for me this week and I don't know what it is, but I have been doing awesome! After a long slump on SM this week has been the best I've ever had on cam so far. My hourly has shot up by $10/hour quite unexpectedly. The only things I can contribute to this are: 1. I have started logging in a couple of hours earlier than usual so I can log out a couple of hours earlier, and 2. I started working on another site at night so I pretty much stopped caring about SM :) Don't get me wrong, it's still my primary site (for now) and I still have a goal for myself on there every morning but I also have a daily goal, which is more important to me. If I don't reach my SM goal I know I can still hit my overall daily on the other site later that evening so I'm much more relaxed about it. I never thought I looked desperate on cam, but maybe guys can just sense that I don't give a fuck and that makes them want me? Whatever it is, I hope it stays like this! Getting long premium shows filled with multiple guys without trying any harder than I did before has been great for my morale. I hope the rest of you are also seeing things start to pick up!
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I was having an off day today.. For no particular reason. I came across this. It put me in a better mood instantly. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/13-si...gh-a-rough-day I hope that it helps some other ladies perk up too :D
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WhatNOW
Thank you for posting that link hun!
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PLEASE TELL ME I'm not gross and impossible to masturbate to because I LEGIT don't know if I can pay my bills at this rate uggghhjjjh
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So slow.
It is taking me twice the time it usually takes for me to make goal.
*sighs*
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I feel your pain
i feel it
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sillykitty
PLEASE TELL ME I'm not gross and impossible to masturbate to
Im telling you: You are not gross and impossible to masturbate to
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sillykitty
PLEASE TELL ME I'm not gross and impossible to masturbate to because I LEGIT don't know if I can pay my bills at this rate uggghhjjjh
Open skype, bb and I'll let you know. ;)
No, you are awesome! Slow days are just slow. :(
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yea today's my day.. I have just worked on 9 cam sites with nothing but a $5 tip i just got now..LOL.. and been online over 2 hours now..LOL .. trying not to get upset.. these days happen sometimes.. been awhile though.
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sillykitty
PLEASE TELL ME I'm not gross and impossible to masturbate to because I LEGIT don't know if I can pay my bills at this rate uggghhjjjh
You're beautiful.
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ARGH! It is so slow today and my placement completely sucks!!!
*whine*
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WHEW!! thought it was just me... i only made 1.75 for a boob flash!!..lol... NOT ONE SHOW>. thank god for the other 8 sites but they are no help.. off to take a 3 or 4 hour break!! yippee.. don't worry.. it's just a day... the stars are stacked against us.. enjoy it .
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justanothercamgirl
ARGH! It is so slow today and my placement completely sucks!!!
*whine*
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SM has been sh** the last 3 days - I've struggled to get ANY Gold Shows going :(
Nothing but freeloading idiots coming into my room.
I know it will come back, it ALWAYS does.
Just gotta be patient and ride out the storm :)
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anonymous camgirl
yea today's my day.. I have just worked on 9 cam sites with nothing but a $5 tip i just got now..LOL.. and been online over 2 hours now..LOL .. trying not to get upset.. these days happen sometimes.. been awhile though.
9 sites??? I have found that I personally make the most when I focus on one or two sites at at time. Have you tried that instead of hopping around? You can't possibly be on each site long enough to get the traffic flowing if you are skipping around to 9 sites in a 2 hour span of time.
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I do them all at the same time.. and yes i have tried just focusing on only 2 sites or so.. after I make my goal.. but just ends up the same anyway.. I have been doing it like that for 10 yrs now.. seems to work for me.. i guess... Normally I have to put up with way less free chatters this way. And I am never worried about a site suspending, terminating , paying me late or not existing anymore.. I have backups! It makes me extremely nervous to put all my eggs in one basket.. I have alot to lose!
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SarahTime
9 sites??? I have found that I personally make the most when I focus on one or two sites at at time. Have you tried that instead of hopping around? You can't possibly be on each site long enough to get the traffic flowing if you are skipping around to 9 sites in a 2 hour span of time.
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3 hrs split camming on two sites $10...
should i have someone else shoot me or do it myself?