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My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
he works at a restaurant for 8 to 10 hours a day and gets minimum wage. He gets burns and cuts from handling dishes and hot plates. He cleans the entire restuarant everyday and its a 5000 sq ft. He is also a type 1 diabetic who has to work there for his insurance. I'm new to camming though he thinks I should be looking for a real job. I have already applied everywhere and haven't had luck. I have danced though the clubs are way to dirty now and I would defiantly enjoy working from home. I also do all the house work and cooking and grocery shopping. But my boyfriend still insist that his job is harder then camming. Now I feel like I'm unimportant and I wont make money with it. I really want to try camming though but he thinks I need a real job too.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
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Originally Posted by
NightVixen
my boyfriend still insist that his job is harder then camming ... he thinks I need a real job too.
Basically, he says camming is easy, his job is hard and sucks, and you should do something that is hard and sucks, just to comfort HIM? LOL
The day my husband dares to tell me my job is easy, I will set him up a profile give him my biggest dildo, and ask him to do a full shift of fucking himself. We might talk about it after that day.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
He's just jealous because he doesnt like his job and sees yours as being easy because you can make your own hours and stay at home. As long as you're covering your half of the costs and your bills then he cant say shit about you looking for something else.
Tell him he's entitled to his opinion but you find it offensive and dont want to hear it anymore :)
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
Man, health care is such a basic human right...
Anyway, don't make him let you feel bad. He's just protecting his own insecurities. I question why he wouldn't WANT you to have an "easy" job. I know I wouldn't want the people I care about to have to work harder than they need to.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
Sounds like he has a personal problem.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
Well honestly so what if his job is harder. If you are making money and contributing to the household what difference does it make whether the job is easy or difficult. I mean following that logic, if you were an admin assistant your job might be easier than his, would he still have a problem with that? Does it only count as work if you are miserable and it's difficult?
If your boyfriend won't be satisfied with you making money in a way that is legal and makes you happy, just because it's not hard, in his opinion I would take a good long look at the kind of person he is.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
In terms of the title of this thread and actual labor output against salary results: he's right. Food service, esp to get paid so little for it, is grueling work? Does that matter in anyway - no. Not sure if he had a bigger point beyond that like a logical leap like his job is more important and work means manual labor and anything that isnt manual labor isnt 'real' work or something stupid, but I kind of read this post differently:
So you arent currently camming? Youre inbetween jobs?
Depending on how he felt abt you dancing and unless youre buying groceries with your own income: maybe by real job he means a stable reliable source of income so you can consistently contribute. Going by what youve written youre unemployed (could be wrong?) and he's working a minimum wage job to support you both (?). Wanting your partner to have a consistent income to take the weight off in that context is.... understandable. That is how I read "real job" here, let me know if Im mistaken. Since you said "too", he's fine with you camming for side income but wants you to have a stable source of income primarily?
If one person is supporting another person on very little, I can understand how talking up a kind of esoteric commissions-based job like camming would be met with disagreement. Finances stressout most relationships.
If he isnt supporting you both - he needs to stfu. Otherwise, I can understand where he's coming from? Not saying I agree since many (obviously) are supporting whole families and themselves camming but especially if youve never cammed before and this is still at a discussion stage - he doesnt have something to point to as this being reliable money. Your best bet is to just do it so you have proof, but if he is fundamentally against you camming as an 'idea' and is giving you black/white directives then that is a different conversation?
Best to just do it and have income from this idea so this argument ends. The best revenge is success? But I dont understand why you dont think youll make money with this... or why you havent started yet?
Maybe I dont get it?
This seems more nuanced then 'my boyfriend is a labor tyrant who thinks camming is stupid'. If it isnt,, let me know?
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I HATE when people say that you don't have a "real" job because you work from home. It's like they tune out the "work" part and just hear "from home." Well guess what: cam models work! We do research, we market, and we provide a service. Just because we can make our own hours it does not make us lazy at all. In fact, many of us put in a lot of hours, because if you don't you won't make very much money. And speaking of money, I don't know about the rest of the ladies on here, but I've never been payed with "fake" money; I've always made "real" money that's deposited directly into my bank account, so I can assure you, my income is real. I've got the pay stubs and tax return documents to prove it!
Personally, I work harder at camming than I did when I worked traditional office jobs. It takes a lot of motivation and dedication to log in every day when you don't have a boss and a guaranteed paycheck there to push you. When I worked in offices I often had days that I had low energy, I didn't want to be there, I'd pretty much just phone it in. You don't have that luxury when you are on cam. You've got to bring your A game every day that you broadcast because if you don't, you won't get viewers and your paycheck will suffer. I now work fewer hours per day on cam than I did in an office, but I when I am on cam I am 100% focused on giving my viewers the quality that they want whether they are in a private show or free chat.
Not to minimize the work your boyfriend does because it sounds like he has a labor intensive job, but camming is very physically demanding, too. Yes, when I am a free chat I may look lazy because I am laying on my bed talking wearing not too much clothing. But you've got to move, you've got to entertain, and when I am in shows or starting to really hustle for a show (especially when I still offered gold shows), I often work up a sweat. I'm not an unfit person but tell him to shake his ass, arch his back, bounce and ride and get in crazy positions and work it for 20+ minutes straight, nonstop, all the while reading demands of "More! Harder! Faster! Don't stop!" In fact I've had to start using arthritis cream on my back at the end of my shift because there's always one guy who wants you to be a contortionist, and it can get very physically uncomfortable, but when you aim to please and know the importance of giving the best, sexiest angles you will suck up the discomfort because that's what a good performer does. So don't let anyone tell you that camming isn't a "real" job or is somehow only for lazy people. People who say that kind of thing are flat out ignorant of what this work actually entails but stick around SW, you will read for yourself that we work very hard for our money.
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omg girly dont let him get you down like that i hate it when people tell us we should get real jobs wtf!? is being a camgirl fake or something? you are not unimportant! stick to it and you can do very good in camming there are a few good threads here about how to get started on being a camgirl http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...-For-Cam-Girls
and once your bringing in more cash than he is you can tell him your "easy earned fake money" is for you to spend on yourself and not for him he can keep his "hard" earned min wage money
and since to him is sooooo easy like glasses said give him a dildo so he can fuck his ass sore on cam
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
he just needs to get moved up to server position and he'll feel better about his life
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
My bf things the same as the OP one, also he's diabetic type 1 too, but insurance is gave for free here in the country (you dont need to work to have insurance) but he's working as a computer technichian ...and like yours, mine always said 'get a real job' he not only thinks webcam is extremely easy money, but also he felt insecure (maybe the same thing happens with yours bf) because i'm online flirting virtually with guys to entitled them to pvt chat me, so my bf is a little jeaolusy and even if I earn 2 times in 1 month what he earns that entire month, he still keep sayin 'get a real job, even if you earn lesser is a real job, not that type of easy job bla bla' .
The best thing you can tell your bf is to respect what you're doing, that you're gaining money (more than a real job), and both og you never talk about webcam pages or how did it goes to you on webcam site on the day, that's what I do with mine, we have like 5 months he doesn't mention nothing about the webcam pages me either, the only important thing is the money share monthly on the table that we both provide.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
Camming IS easier. Much, much easier. But it takes WAY more effort and has repercussions that last a life time and it severely limits your future professional life if you choose to exit the adult industry or stop making money in the industry.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
Tell your boyfriend to get really hot (if he isn't already) and be willing to be sexually harrassed by aggressive perverts and stuff 6 inches of silicone penis-shaped objects in different private parts of his body.
Tell him that the skin that you have to develope to take insults and orders with a smile, is much thicker than the paper cuts he gets in the kitchen.
Tell him to be sexy when you are feeling vulnerable or unhappy because your significant other doesn't respect your job.
Men can webcam btw...
Then, if he happens to be willing to do this, put him on a cam and see how many people are willing to pay to watch it.
Saying your job is easy, from is like saying Jordan only got paid to bounce and throw a ball...
Also, tell your byfriend I pay my mortgage webcamming AND i cook every night and I do it without getting cut and burned. lol
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^She isnt camming though. She's never cammed before and does not currently cam. So, she cant say any of those things. She's unemployed and appears to be living with someone who is overworked and underpaid. Tbh I cam and I even wouldnt say most of those things. Cooking at home =/= restaurant work.
I think the title of this is prejudicial and misleading, like people are taking the title personally but not really reading the content that makes the BF seem less... ridiculous.
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Also, NVixen, I take issue with the idea that he seems to want your job to be anything less than cushy! Who cares if your job is super easy?
Make more money than him, then show him your bank statement, and when he begins to resent you (which I hope doesn't happen, but it sounds like it may) tell him to fuck off... Or better yet make him become your assistant when you open Vixen Enterprises, lol.
I can tell by the way you speak of his job (stressing the difficult parts and playing up his importance), that you have respect for what he does, although it's only min wage, which isn't ideal, and you deserve the same respect from him although your job isn't his ideal.
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Roast, I do cam on MFC, Stripville and Jazmin. If you are looking at my profile, which was created when I was 16, it's not completely current/accurate.
And I agree that cooking dinner isn't equal to restaurant work; I honestly just threw that in as a joke.
I don't want to offend anyone; but i'm entitled to an opinion.
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I was just approved on MFC. It's that time of the month right now though sooo no camming til wednesday while he is at work. I haven't even ever had any "toys" either. Just going to do nude at first. Working on my profile. I supported him on 12 an hour for two years (he did have some music gigs though and taught lessons) and went back to school with a pell grant and a loan one un-sub and one subed. He was only recently diagnosed with type 1 diabetes so it's been hard. He went to college for music education though that pays less then minimum wage and the music schools he has taught at are shady making him clock in and out all day when students cancel. I left my job to go back to school last fall and right before the semester started he went in to the hospital. He was at 129 lbs and is over 6 ft. It was really scary finding out about getting type 1 diabetes out of the blue like that. I've worked in food service (chili's) for 5 years while I danced on the side. So yeah restaurants suck and if he moved to server he would make more though be cut to part time and lose his benefits. He doesn't like faith based economics so while I'm going to start camming I'm just going to have to find another part time job on the side. I even went by a few clubs about waitressing and one club said to come back in a month.
Thanks everyone though. I know with camming, it can take awhile before the money really rolls in. I just want to get done with school and start creating and coding my own sites. I also know with camming and taxes there is no way I will probably get finaical aid since I will be filing a 1099. But I think it would also be cool to start a cam site ran by women or ex-cam girl evenually but it will take a bit before we get there.
Sorry for coming on too strong. He kinda made me mad earlier since his blood sugar dropped really low he got cranky. I'm PMSing but we made up and its cool. While all jobs carry there share of stress at least I'm doing school and getting ahed and his job is technically a dead end job. His boss told him if he learned spanish he could start prepping with the cooks. So he is working hard and getting nowhere while I'm working to get somewhere.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
I don't think you came on too strong. Wish you and your bf the best; health issues are scary.
Stay positive and confident!!!!
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
Wishing ya luck for when you do start. ;)
Want to make him feel better? After you get a good pay, meet him after work (surprise!) and take him somewhere nice to relax, or if he gets off really late, bring him a nice dinner or something when you know he's scheduled for break.
He'll be stressy. You shouldn't take it personally.
Hell, my guy's one of the most calm and relaxed people on the planet and even he gets mopey with the "You just made more in 2 hours than I made in an entire day's work. T_T"
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Do the webcam checks come in on time? cause that is all that matters, you might be at hoem working webcam and he might be in a restaurant but your both bringing in some type of income. what would he think if your working in a strip club it would be a real job.
real job comes with a paycheck and cash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0u4E...g77DozhQ1XW3k=
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^^^This is one of the videos I watched when I was considering becoming a Cam Girl.
Very informitive and made me laugh. "This is a bizznessss!" haha Love it :)
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I hate the whole 'webcamming isn't a real job' shit. But I won't digress into a tangent.
I see where he's coming from and I can empathize with him to a degree. I have a severe pain disorder and for 4 years tried working jobs and could only do bottom of the barrel work. I am pissed I never knew about webcamming because that may have prevented me from debt and eventual homelessness.
Keep looking for what he thinks is a 'real job' but in the meantime, invest yourself in camming because some income is better than none. He may have no idea what kind of money that could bring in for you and after giving it a month you can have some tangible proof. Even when your hourly is fluctuating you can average out your earnings. Show him. Whether or not the job is 'easy' has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it. You are still putting in time for income and contributing. Shit...with my pain, in retrospect, waitressing and bartending would be HARD work for me however planting me in front of a computer to do templates for a website at $30/hr is a cakewalk. (Not having enough money to purchase the piece of paper stating my accomplishments in web development I did, however, tutor graduate level students. I taught myself HTML at 12=I had NO friends. lol) Because I am more comfortable and moving less it's not the same kind of work? The argument he presents there seems like a personal inflection.
Best advice is to treat the situation as if you were totally independent. Split things in half and if you can cover it doing w/e is legal and safe for you to do, go for it. But for his ease of mind, be able to show that camming works for you (if it does) with some solid numbers.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
Tell him that you very much appreciate his concern and his opinion but you are a grown-up and therefore you are responsible for your own life choices. Even though he may not like those choices or has opinions about your choices that they are still your choices and he has to respect them.
Then do what you believe is best for you.
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My ex had this problem, he still thinks like this too. He would always tell me I should work two or three jobs, and it would piss me off. I have always done well in camming, and I broke up with my ex because of the camming issue, and other issues we had, but the funny thing is now, I work a full-time job 40-45 hours a week at a corporate office, and I love it, and I still want to cam for the extra money, but by the time my kids fall to sleep, I am too damn tired!!! I want to cam just to have EXTRA money in addition to what I am earning..I really do love camming. I used to tell my ex why would I work harder, and not smarter?
I think it's a jealousy issue. Your boyfriend is probably jealous that you can sit at home and make money, while he stands on his feet all day.
You know what I say to that...If you don't like your job, find something you DO LIKE!
If I didn't like camming, or working corporate jobs I would find something else, not sit around and complain about it. Do what you want! Your not married to him, you can do whatever makes you happy.
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Originally Posted by
Glasses
Basically, he says camming is easy, his job is hard and sucks, and you should do something that is hard and sucks, just to comfort HIM? LOL
The day my husband dares to tell me my job is easy, I will set him up a profile give him my biggest dildo, and ask him to do a full shift of fucking himself. We might talk about it after that day.
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Re: My boyfriend says camming is easy compard to his job
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Originally Posted by
NightVixen
he works at a restaurant for 8 to 10 hours a day and gets minimum wage. He gets burns and cuts from handling dishes and hot plates. He cleans the entire restuarant everyday and its a 5000 sq ft. He is also a type 1 diabetic who has to work there for his insurance. I'm new to camming though he thinks I should be looking for a real job. I have already applied everywhere and haven't had luck. I have danced though the clubs are way to dirty now and I would defiantly enjoy working from home. I also do all the house work and cooking and grocery shopping. But my boyfriend still insist that his job is harder then camming. Now I feel like I'm unimportant and I wont make money with it. I really want to try camming though but he thinks I need a real job too.
Why not open a couples account and show him how it really goes down. I have 5 boys I take care of that are 15,14,12,10 & 5. I never sit down much unless I get spare time and Im able to come here lol. He owns his own construction biz and works 6am-5pm sometimes later. All five of our boys are in rec baseball so I'm constantly running around cleaning house cooking and driving back & forth to the ball field. We BOTH get on cam around 9pm-1am every night. No matter what I do during the day or what he does. He also gets burns, cuts and scrapes from actual heavy tools and equipment not hot dishes. Although I managed a restaurant for like 9 years, so I DO know how hard it is..you should tell him to grow up. Unless he actually cams he will never know what its like. He should put his big boy panties on and try both. But he also shouldn't make you feel like unappreciated. =(