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Why Aren't Escorts Posting Their Rates on Backpage Like they Did on CL?
When I used to read CL, the escorts had rates posted on there. Now when I look on backpage, or cityvibe I see nothing. Every so often a girl has some kind of special going, but other than that, no rates. How are girls communicating rates with clients and not getting in trouble?
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Re: Why Aren't Escorts Posting Their Rates on Backpage Like they Did on CL?
I'm guessing they tell guys when they call. Which, btw is how girls get caught by cops. Backpage is where LE cruises for girls to bust, be VERY wary of advertising there girl. It might also be against BP's terms of service, because none of them do it at all, there's gotta be an actual specific reason for that
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BP changed their policies and now don't allow posting of rates for less than a hour time. Many girls are still wanting to offer half hours but now can't post that. So they just don't post the rates and if you are interested you've got to call and ask, look up rate info in their reviews, or send them an email. The escorts need to be careful when communicating rates that the rate is just for their time and company which is legal and not exchanging sex for money which is illegal. Of course, many of them aren't careful in that regard and wind up getting themselves in trouble.
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jannisary
BP changed their policies and now don't allow posting of rates for less than a hour time. Many girls are still wanting to offer half hours but now can't post that. So they just don't post the rates and if you are interested you've got to call and ask, look up rate info in their reviews, or send them an email. The escorts need to be careful when communicating rates that the rate is just for their time and company which is legal and not exchanging sex for money which is illegal. Of course, many of them aren't careful in that regard and wind up getting themselves in trouble.
thank you jannisary
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Miss_McKenna
I'm guessing they tell guys when they call. Which, btw is how girls get caught by cops. Backpage is where LE cruises for girls to bust, be VERY wary of advertising there girl. It might also be against BP's terms of service, because none of them do it at all, there's gotta be an actual specific reason for that
Yes the phone call seems risky to me. I could see maybe posting rates on a private website, I don't know. I'm having a hard time finding an agency. People say I'm pretty and black but not light skinned and most good agencies are looking for latina or white in my area. The ones interested in me sound like street thugs. This is why I was considering independent. I spent time with a few guys that used to come to the club when I danced before, so in a way I have some experience and have been reading on this site through the back threads and on this website: http://dating.com/escort-resources/ alot too.
Do you know of a safer place to advertise than BP?
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^^ There's a thread on here all about how some escorts, including black ladies, choose not to see black men. There was a variety of reasons, some safety-related, some not.
It depends on your area as different regions have different sites that are the "main" places to advertise. For example, in NY/NJ/Philly, it's all about Eros.com, and then there's review boards specific to that area such as BestGFE and TER, and sites like Cityvibe.
Having your own website is really easy and cheap, and it can even be free on quite a few sites. I feel like it's a lot better to post your rates there, or at least have a website on your ads; it makes you look more classy and you can emphasize that your compensation is for your companionship, travel expenses, whatever. BP girls can do that too, but I think when a girl has a classy website, it really seems like she is charging for the full package, as opposed to cheap places like BP where it just looks almost silly and like a failed attempt to stay on the legal side of things.
Remember too, you NEED to screen your clients! Showing up to meet with a cop is enough to get arrested, and god knows you don't want to wind up with a scary guy that'll do far worse than that to you. A lot of the girls on places like BP offer immediate and quickie appointments, so I'm guessing they're not screening. If you advertise in places where the girls don't screen, you'll only attract customers that are used to not needing to be screened. On "classier" advertising sites, the guys who see your ad will be accustomed to going through screening, and will be fine with giving you info to let you know they actually are safe.
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Miss_McKenna
^^ There's a thread on here all about how some escorts, including black ladies, choose not to see black men. There was a variety of reasons, some safety-related, some not.
It depends on your area as different regions have different sites that are the "main" places to advertise. For example, in NY/NJ/Philly, it's all about Eros.com, and then there's review boards specific to that area such as BestGFE and TER, and sites like Cityvibe.
Having your own website is really easy and cheap, and it can even be free on quite a few sites. I feel like it's a lot better to post your rates there, or at least have a website on your ads; it makes you look more classy and you can emphasize that your compensation is for your companionship, travel expenses, whatever. BP girls can do that too, but I think when a girl has a classy website, it really seems like she is charging for the full package, as opposed to cheap places like BP where it just looks almost silly and like a failed attempt to stay on the legal side of things.
Remember too, you NEED to screen your clients! Showing up to meet with a cop is enough to get arrested, and god knows you don't want to wind up with a scary guy that'll do far worse ,that to you. A lot of the girls on places like BP offer immediate and quickie appointments, so I'm guessing they're not screening. If you advertise in places where the girls don't screen, you'll only attract customers that are used to not needing to be screened. On "classier" advertising sites, the guys who see your ad will be accustomed to going through screening, and will be fine with giving you info to let you know they actually are safe.
Wow, Miss McKenna, that's crazy. How is showing up to meet the cop enough to get arrested if escorting for time is legal? I would think they would have to let you go if you do not propose doing anything other than spend time with them, and if you state clearly that pay is only for your time and companionship.
As far as eros, I'm not in any of those areas ny,nj, philly, but I guess I could try City Vibe, or TER if they attract better clients. I'm not going to be doing GFE, so I'm not going to advertise there.
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Ok I've posted rates on backpage. so It is allowed. My rates were 400/500 an hour.
On not seeing black men, the topic is so old. it's not worth it to revisit.
My body, my choice. This is no union.
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I used BP starting out and I never posted my rate but they do allow rates to be posted. I have my own personal reasons why I don't post as I'm sure other girls do too but if you screen properly this shouldn't be an issue. And screening is covered in great detail on this board. When I first started, I was so scared about everything. I turned down more appointments than I took because I was so so scared but now that I'm really good at screening, I don't ever really worry. Plus that 6th sense will kick in once you get the hang of it.
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Lovelyme
My body, my choice. This is no union.
I live by this mantra. I turned down an appointment yesterday just because. After I googled his address something just kicked in and made me say "nope. not doing it". I just didn't feel like it and because I'm my own boss, I didn't do it.
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Again, as mentioned before, the rate posting only affects those who offer half hour sessions. Its on the page where you post your ad: - "Pricing for legal adult services must be for a minimum of one hour." A lot of girls on there offer half hour sessions, hence why they cannot post rates, hence why so many ads have no rates in them.
Yeah Daisy, it really is true...once you show up in the room with the police, you are as good as got...I have not been there (knock on wood) but have read stories of girls who have, and they havnt said or done anything besides accept money, and police are rushing in on them. Now I have heard of women knowing exactly what to say (or not to say) and have gotten out of an arrest, but once they have you there, they will go at length to have something they can use to try and incriminate you with. Even if you do absolutely everything right, they can still make an arrest based on probable cause. Remember, an a arrest is not a judgment of guilt of innocence...until a judgement is made, you are just suspect. Thats why its best to do everything you can to not even end up in the room with the police at all.
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blksharpie is incall safer from that ending up with le in the room thing, since it is your room and you are paying for it? if you are very careful to make sure that all of your communications etc are explicitly clear of your legal escort/companion status, do they have less legal power in your room? Like I've read a few stories online about girls that got in trouble and many flat out asked for money for sex (which is probably the main reason), but I did notice that they were all doing outcall to a hotel.
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I wouldnt say one is safer than another, because they can do a bust either way...its not a matter of legal power, they have the same amount of authority whether they come to you, or you come to them... But yeah, it does seems most of the arrests Ive heard of were outcall, cause for them its just way easier to set up a room, and have girls come to them. I know some ladies refuse to do outcalls because of that, but there are also girls who refuse to do incalls because of their experience with LE. I cant remember to be honest, what the risks of incall are, just that they made sense...and since you can get arrested either way, I figured I may as well offer both.
Sorry I dont have the best way of describing the differences between the two...hopefully someone can come along with better examples!
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Remember too, that just because technically the law says selling your time is legal, doesn't mean the cops won't be shady about it. A cop could say you said one thing, when you didn't, and it's your word against his. The very best way to avoid getting arrested, is to the positive from the beginning that the guy isn't LE. Plus, cops are able to do a lot before they arrest you, and you'll still be the one in the wrong. A cop can show up and give you the money, nothing sexual is mentioned, so you're like ok I'm good, and you start doing your thing.... the cop can get a bj from you, THEN push you off and arrest you. You're almost never safe if you meet a cop, no matter what you did or didn't say/do
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So very true...I have heard of cops going as far as having intercourse, and *then* arresting the girl. I hear people argue against it saying that would never happen, or say the "show me your dick" test is the ultimate, but its not. Not to say its standard practice, not to say its what they are trained to do, and I dont hate cops...one of my best friends is one (ironically enough) but they will do whatever they can/whatever they want to get the bust they are after and the last person you can trust to be honest with you and do things on the straight and narrow is a cop.
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^^ this is true - a cop that was trying to get me to set up someone was laughing about girls asking if they were a cop thinking that they have to tell if asked - he said it is his job to lie - and yes they will do something illegal with you and bust you
edited - i told him no on the set up deal-I'm not a snitch - do your own job
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Re: Why Aren't Escorts Posting Their Rates on Backpage Like they Did on CL?
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Avamonet
I live by this mantra. I turned down an appointment yesterday just because. After I googled his address something just kicked in and made me say "nope. not doing it". I just didn't feel like it and because I'm my own boss, I didn't do it.
How can someone's address raise a red flag? Or was it the area his house was in.
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Yeah, I posted on BP when I first started, and the responses I got from there were like no other... It sort of added to my paranoia, cause it seemed like every guy gave me a bad feeling and was LE, but they probably were :D The biggest reason I dont post there though is cause my ex and all his friends scope out what they call "The Escort Wonderland" *sigh* I do post there whenever I visit a city, but have never met a guy from there...none have passed my screening.
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It was the area his house was in that I didn't like. It wasn't a bad neighborhood. I just didn't trust it. But there are time when there's no rhyme or reason as to why I won't take an appointment. I just don't feel like it. I can't explain it but something just doesn't click with me so I don't do it.
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Before I buy it online, because my money is pretty scarce right now, Does Amanda Brooks book cover the screening clients to make sure that they are not dangerous and not LE. I have not really been able to find clear cut guidelines on screening.
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daisy7
Before I buy it online, because my money is pretty scarce right now, Does Amanda Brooks book cover the screening clients to make sure that they are not dangerous and not LE. I have not really been able to find clear cut guidelines on screening.
I'm not saying to don't buy the Amanda Brooks book. But in the meantime, there are a few really really good and detailed posts on here about screening that can get you started if your money is scarce. Just do a search on here for "screening" in the "other work" category. It should yield you a few good results.
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The more I think about it, the more I just cannot go through with it. The only sugar daddy types of guys I ever went out with in the past, were guys I was interested in. There are just too many risks involved for me with disease and the LE. I think dancing is about the only thing that I can do. Hopefully it will take less than a month, I was just hoping to get out of here quicker, but getting out of here in 2 weeks is just not worth the risks that could happen to me.
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Good to be true to yourself :) And yeah, like I said before, decisions made out of desperation, usually are not good ones.
I hope that you are able to make the money you need to get out of your current living situation as soon as possible...!
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Thank you, BlkSharpie. I will be going into the club for an interview in the next day or two when I can speak to the manager. I think it is best. You are so right about desperate decisions.