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Making money without doing XXX Hardcore porn shows?
Just like how some guys who walk into stripclubs not looking for extras, are there men who go into webcam sites just looking for clean flirtatious fun and nice conversation with the models? I am looking into webcamming but I also want to establish my boundaries.
Have you been successful on cam without having to stick things inside you? Or do you know any models who are "clean?"
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I don't think the 'clean' vs 'dirty' paradigm exists in camming the way it does in stripping, in that nude/toy chicas aren't looked down upon, and 'non nude' is perceived as more of an angle (as with any cam persona) than a state of virtue.
Some chicas do very well with non nude (excluding a lucrative if crowded field of Dommes which don't fit you fun and flirty concept) but they are the minority. I do alot of non nude camming (what I call 'talking' shows) but my income would drop significantly if I didn't get nekkid/use toys. I like doing both, however, so I prefer it that way.
Your best bet would be to try it out on mfc, which has a venue designed for that type of interaction, but in general non nude camming is not in very high demand aside from with very fetish-oriented customers. Even amongst my 'talking show' guys who book hours at a time just to hang out, they found me while searching for a nude/toy show and things sort of evolved from there.
You won't know what it will be like until your try it, so experiment with different sites and assess your strategies as you go. In camming, results are intensely unique, so the experience of another cam chica will have very little commonality with your own.
Your personal boundaries SHOULD be your guide, but also be aware that the potential repercussions of non nude camming are the same as nude/toy camming, in that you are still performing on an adult website, with all the stigma that can entail.
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I dont do toys . started non nude but made $50 in 5 hours
so now I do some flashing in public chat after decent tips and full strip in group / pvt only
just oil and some light touching.
no masturbation or cum shows
I now can average 150-200 in a 5 hourish time frame
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I've had a few customers just pay to talk. Not about anything sexual but just so I could solely focus on them. And today I had a guy take me into private until he was out of tokens (10,345 tokens) and just talk. He told me he had a test at his university and we talked about school and work and that's it. just because I was nice to him the last time he was on. They are out there. Just hard to find.
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My very first day on MFC I was fully clothed, never talked about sex, and made more that day for being different and not naked than my whole 2month span on there.
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Indeed; it is a rare find to get a man to pay for just friendly conversation, but my biggest spenders were guys mostly looking for a good chat, shower me with compliments, and to spoil me..if I were to even consider I'd try to branch out a bit and do alot of promotion with facebook (camgirl name), twitter, blog, etc so guys can obsess and get to know you a bit better since they'll be basically paying for your friendship. I suppose you need a friendly radiant personality and good looks to be successful in that endeavor but you can do well just teasing and flirting; alot of girls can do it, but many fail as well. I'd love to try non-nude camming, so I can brag about how I get paid just to flirt but I'm scared to try. :/
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I was doing it.. did okay,., was able to make like 2k in 1 month, working about 20 hours a week. You need to invest in friendship with the guys though
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There's a difference to between totally non-nude camming and camming that's more softcore. I think it's infinitely easier to cam if you're willing to at least get naked. Not that it's impossible to be a totally non-nude cam girl. But you need to be super bombshell hot and work your ass off to promote yourself. If you're willing to at least do some sexual stuff (blow job on a toy, rub oil on your tatas), there's a lot more possibilities regarding more traditional camming--e.g. camming with the intention of bringing a male to climax.
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Some just want to talk, I've even had a guy who just wanted me to pretend like I was kissing him lol...but most want to see some action going on lol
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I've been battling this same issue for years. My first site was streamates an still is my main site. I started off only doing striptease/softcore shows. I wanted to keep it that way but customers kept asking about toys. I didn't think there was enough money in doing non-toy shows so I got like 2 toys an did hardcore shows for a while. I never hated or felt ashamed doing them but I felt like I had to do them in order to make money.
I recently just stopped doing hardcore shows. Femdom, fetish, striptease, softcore, and masturbation without toys seems to work me. I still offer toys shows but I only do them in block sessions so I rarely, rarely, rarely do them now. I average $100 for 4 hours an $200 for 8.
It sounds like a girlfriend type of style on a site like mfc may work for you. Anyways I think its very possible to make money without doing toy shows, you just have to find your own niche/style.
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loveshooks
Your personal boundaries SHOULD be your guide.
THIS.
If you already know that you DO NOT want to do toy shows, don't do them. And don't let any guy harass you into doing them after you've made it clear that you won't ("Aw, come on, bb...will you do it for me???"). Besides, if it's something you're not looking forward to doing, guys may be able to tell that you're not into it.
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I do femdom/fetish as the lovely lovehooks said it is a crowded field. I've done it for a while, and it's pretty lucrative. That said there isn't a extras/clean split. The job of a webcam model is to perform on cam what she enjoys doing for an agreed upon price per minute. For some ladies this a hardcore show, for some it is softcore, for others it is fetish. Beyond a basic set of contractual rules that we all must follow there are no rules, so it's a bit more free than a club. So whatever you can make work for you within your boundaries go for it. Your success is mainly going to be determined by your drive and ambition. Trust me there are models who offer it all toys, dp, anal that make peanuts because they don't have the drive, and there are girls that sit around and shoot the shit who bank. It's not what you do or don't do, it's your work ethic that is going to be the deciding factor. If you're hardworking you'll make money.
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AriahsPariah
Have you been successful on cam without having to stick things inside you? Or do you know any models who are "clean?"
It really all depends on what your definition of 'successful' is. The awesome thing about webcamming is that you get to define your own boundaries. Of course, the sucky thing about webcamming is that there is only so much demand for what you are selling no matter what category you are in and of course some categories are going to be more competitive than others.
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I work on Streamate and I don't do hardcore stuff nor anal or intercourse. Don't compromise your integrity if it's not something you're comfortable with. Camming to me is about the whole package. It isn't about fucking yourself for hours. I am a Transsexual woman so it's like a novelty so I take advantage of that.
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i do it, but i do it mostly by being a Domme. i dont mind dong the occasional vanilla show as long as the guy is respectful of me and my boundries.
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You have to either do fetish stuff, or get nude at least. I mean, maybe there are freak exceptions, but if you want to make any significant money you will probably have to do more than sit there being clothed and charming in private chat.
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Originally Posted by
loveshooks
I don't think the 'clean' vs 'dirty' paradigm exists in camming the way it does in stripping, in that nude/toy chicas aren't looked down upon, and 'non nude' is perceived as more of an angle (as with any cam persona) than a state of virtue.can't wait to show you more in private. Ready to get naughty?
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.Your personal boundaries SHOULD be your guide, but also be aware that the potential repercussions of non nude camming are the same as nude/toy camming, in that you are still performing on an adult website, with all the stigma that can entail.
Exactly. Don't kid yourself. No such thing as "clean" camming. A lot of your customers are still sitting there masturbating, in fact probably most of them. Some guys will masturbate to your face, voice, anything at all.
With that said though, non-nude is definitely a niche in camming. It's usually more difficult in my opinion and you may get constant abuse on some sites when they realize they are paying and not getting to see you naked, depending on how the site is geared.
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I find that I make money at a faster rate when I set goals for getting nude vs. public show. Mind you they are way smaller per item of clothing. So yeah, you could make money doing soft core. I've never tried non-nude, so I can't help ya there.
Not related to soft core camming: Sometimes I refuse the first couple of privates (on a token in free chat based site), saying that Im feeling shy or something. Then EVERYONE in the room starts begging for one. haha "Oh ok.. I guess I will make an exception" And then I have lots back to back. Does that happen to you? You deny and they all start to want it, then you make a show of caving in and trying to get over how shy you are. lol oh silly.
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Originally Posted by
AriahsPariah
Just like how some guys who walk into stripclubs not looking for extras, are there men who go into webcam sites just looking for clean flirtatious fun and nice conversation with the models? I am looking into webcamming but I also want to establish my boundaries.
Have you been successful on cam without having to stick things inside you? Or do you know any models who are "clean?"
How is that even remotely comparable??? That's like asking a dancer" "Are there strippers in strip clubs who don't do those dirty lapdances and ONLY sit around and get paid to talk to customers instead?" Yeah, maybe .000001% of dancers. The ones who look really young and pull off the i'm-too-shy-to-show-you-my-pussy hustle. And even then, you're severely limiting your income because that's not what strip clubs/cam sites were designed for. The same goes for non-nude camming. It just doesn't happen unless you're able to pull off that hustle and even then you're in the .0000001% of cam girls. You have to pretty much look and act like a little girl and attract those rich pedos, TBH. Many cam girls started off non-nude on OnHerCam, but soon moved to MFC and do toy shows because the money started drying up like 3 years ago in that sector with the invention of sites like Stickam.
Men can find "clean flirtatious fun and nice conversation" in chat rooms and on Stickam (PERFECT example of this), and chances are those girls might be willing to meet up, and meet up for free as well. So non-nude PAID camming just doesn't exist.
However, you could always do domme/fetish work, but that's a whole different hustle that requires a lot of time, research, and energy. You kind of need to be naturally good at it, have a sought-after niche, or just be really well-versed in it in order to do well. And at this point is probably just as tough as non-nude camming unless its already an interest of yours. And most fetish markets are extremely flooded and not worth it (financial domination, anyone?), so you really have to find out what you're good at and what sells for you.
You just have to find your niche. But if you don't want to get naked or do shows, then you should probably stick to dancing.
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lolabunny
Some just want to talk, I've even had a guy who just wanted me to pretend like I was kissing him lol...but most want to see some action going on lol
That's probably because he had a lip or lipstick fetish. But he was definitely fapping hardcore behind his screen.
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GlamourRouge
That's probably because he had a lip or lipstick fetish. But he was definitely fapping hardcore behind his screen.
Agreed they are always jerking. I have guys who will come in free chat and say they are jerking to my voice or my lips or my left eyebrow. They are ALWAYS jerking-off and when they aren't they are thinking about jerking-off. Maybe one or two a year you meet who aren't fapping. But the more they jerk the more they spend so it's a good thing.
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GlamourRouge
How is that even remotely comparable??? That's like asking a dancer" "Are there strippers in strip clubs who don't do those dirty lapdances and ONLY sit around and get paid to talk to customers instead?" Yeah, maybe .000001% of dancers.
have you danced? if you have then you know this isnt true. i danced for 9 years and i assure you in my clubs it wasnt.
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Honestly i Can name at least 4 camgirls that are first row that are "non-nude" camgirls, and a lot that are spread around and make ok money
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I am nn, and I consider myself pretty successful :)
it is definately possible, although if you are going the nn route i suggest sticking to sites that run around the tip method.
some men enjoy a rly good tease, and it runs around the wanting what you cant have theory i think.
I have also had a lot of guys take me private to just chat. it takes patience though, and a good head on your shoulder.
there are abusive members on any site for every girl! set your own boundaries and stick to them girl
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[shrug] for me I started out only a few months ago doing non nude. And it was decent. I have a shit ton of personality and a few regs who just pay to talk to me. But after a bit i started getting comfy on cam..and I AM a pretty naughty girl. So I sort of just transitioned when I was comfy. I definitley make more money advertising nude/a lil more hardcore, but I still get customers who just want to see me topless or even just flirt or dominate them for a good chunk of change.
I think it just comes down to this: do what makes you comfy. But the more that makes you comfy seems to give you more clientele to choose from.
As for comfy, I have a LOT of guys lately asking me to boy/girl content which I don't do. Because not comfy. Sex for me may be incredibly dirty/naughty at times, but I only sleep with people i feel a deep connection to. So it's also extremely intimate. So it's too special i guess. ALSO anyone i did fuck on film and distributed publicly...well if things went sour in our relationship/friendship, it would suck to have a reminder of that FOREVER lol