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Think paid chat sites will ever make a comeback?
Hi ladies hope all are well,
I wonder, do you think that it could/would ever happen? Im on them and the traffic is slow(ish) and I dont make a whole lot of money-just some extra fun money but I think it would be awesome if they came back! Its a higher payout (50 on CC and 65 on MGF) so I guess its a crapshoot at times because of the slowness...just a thought a guess.
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Re: Think paid chat sites will ever make a comeback?
What do you mean? Most of us are on paid chat sites already... :/
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She's talking about sites where free chat is not mandatory.
Its hard to say. We have customers trained (sadly) to expect free shows. The purpose of free chat was initially to assure customers what they were getting was real. Back before free chat sites it used to be that customers would just have a photo and profile to go by. Some customers were getting scammed or girls just not performing up to par. So free chat assured them what they were getting. BUT back in those days the rules were actually enforced on sites like imlive, jasmine, etc. And they still are to this day (on the older sites).
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There are already sites where free chat is not mandatory. I only work on one where it is (sm) :p
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Things will never go back to "the way they were" so we all have to adjust and accept it.
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I agree with SarahTime. I don't see things going back to the way they were and sites like MGF making a huge comeback. If I were a guy I would rather be on SM and MFC as opposed to MGF. You get more bang for your buck. Especially with gold shows.
I still make a good amount of side money on MGF. It will definitely never be my main source if income though
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oh well, another reason to only live off half your income!
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Never will they return and sadly, as long as our content is floating around the internet and being sold worldwide by companies hiding ownership under monikers (Godaddy et al make it that fucking easy!), we can expect to see less and less traffic to our live rooms. I'm not only seeing less revenue but less traffic overall and I'm talking large scale. Every site, every girl. I check stats on them constantly and most have been on the decline for a long time now. Guys have not suddenly stopped taking an interest in sex. They are being shuffled to the tube sites where we're not seeing a dime. My videos are all over those sites. Recent videos, owned by someone hiding under a moniker. It's unbelievable how much of this stuff is being sold out there that we are not seeing any money from. And it's not for "promotional purposes" - it's outright charging and we are not fucking getting paid. We are like farm animals, fed just enough to be kept alive in order to keep feeding someone's deep fucking pockets. I'm seriously fed up with this shit.
Rant over (but I'm far from done with those pigs).
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Yea I know but the thing is that there must be some reason that (some) guys are still on MGF or camcontacts. I honestly think its because it is more one on one attention. Like on MGF guys sends chat request, we talk for a bit cam and bing bang boom its all good you know? I honestly think thats why. I hate how abused girls get in free chat sites. I honestly think that guys should have to pay from the second they enter till they leave. I tried MFC and had a panic attack and got sick from getting told my boob job looks like cones(they effin do not lol) i know they are just trolls but we dont deserve that. I guess I just wish they would...but alas....
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Originally Posted by
OJenni!
She's talking about sites where free chat is not mandatory.
Its hard to say. We have customers trained (sadly) to expect free shows. The purpose of free chat was initially to assure customers what they were getting was real. Back before free chat sites it used to be that customers would just have a photo and profile to go by. Some customers were getting scammed or girls just not performing up to par. So free chat assured them what they were getting. BUT back in those days the rules were actually enforced on sites like imlive, jasmine, etc. And they still are to this day (on the older sites).
this is a good point to I do know that the subject has come up on camcontacts where girls were using other girls' pictures:( Dishonesty has hurt the paid chat sites I think.
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I dont think they will........
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Yah, well Im trying out MGF and jesus christ, girls are selling shit DIRT cheap, im sorry ladies if ur one who gives out "good deals" lmao on MGF to the guys, your destroying the site...makes us girls seem like we only deserve pennies for 5-10 min vids of us fucking ourselves.
Im kinda upset and angry about how cheap girls sell content on that site.
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Most guys there are interested more in cam shows I think. I'm sure if I sold all my stuff for a paid message it would fly like hotcakes but yea...it's more cam show thsn content for me at least
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CinnimonKiss
Yah, well Im trying out MGF and jesus christ, girls are selling shit DIRT cheap, im sorry ladies if ur one who gives out "good deals" lmao on MGF to the guys, your destroying the site...makes us girls seem like we only deserve pennies for 5-10 min vids of us fucking ourselves.
Im kinda upset and angry about how cheap girls sell content on that site.
MGF - gives me a splitting headache! it is just sickening to me how dirt cheap those girls are selling they're content for and it hurts the rest of us because the guys expect all of us to do that.
to make good money on MGF, it is all about the regulars base. also custom content is what most of the good buyers want i find. just for reg content - the rest want it dirt fucking cheap! also the desperation act is getting really stale too - how do we expect for guys to take us seriously as professional girlfriends when they act too needy? it just baffles me, that site would be grade A if it wasn't for that.
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I know it would be beneficial for the industry to do this. Unfortunately what is happening at this point is we are numbing our prospective buyers to what is titillating. To think there are actually still men out there who are willing to pay for cheerleader, nurse, up-skirt, panty, foot, lingerie, dance and tease shows is amazing to me. There are still a few who pay although the numbers are significantly dropping. Traffic is higher than ever, bandwidth costs are higher than ever, yet camgirl revenue is down. Lower the cost of bandwidth and either shrink or completely do away with free video is a smart move IMHO.
For those that have been around long enough, Streamray for years was the only free to private site and they were never the highest grosser of revenue. The highest grossers were the ones that left something to the imagination. If you advertise something is free and if you are giving it away for free then what you get in return is people seeking freebies.
Consider that basic cable programming still forbids all forms of nudity. You must pay a premium rate to get the movie channels that aren't as censored, and even those don't show as much as certain girls do in their free chats.
Back in 1999 and 2000 there were as many as 1800 live cams running on ifriends, maybe 300 on Pornication, and another couple of hundred on sexxyeyes.com. None of us had free cams, yet most camgirls were averaging 1k a week on only 15 hours.
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Re: Think paid chat sites will ever make a comeback?
Do I think it will make a comeback? Absolutely. I see no other direction.
Token and free to private sites will without a doubt fail. One good lawsuit is all it takes. I see way too many adult women catering to minors in free chat for it not to happen.
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I don't think that they will ever come back in the same way - if you were a customer, what would you prefer? Seeing a photoshopped, angled, carefully lit photo that could make anyone look incredible, or actually seeing a preview of the exact lighting/makeup/appearance that you are going to get?
What I think is more reasonable and something I would love to see is timed previews. so if a customer doesn't go pvt or tip within, say, 5-10 mins, then they are booted from the show. Best of both worlds!!
I do think that as more and more girls see this as a career and start to build themselves as a brand, content sales will go up again, along with member sites - as guys want to support their favorite girls...
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cvarga, will you marry me bb? lol jk but yea i agree, I think that free chat inherently attracts people looking for something for free. I honestly dont understand how sites are making a profit. I dont think MFC gives a shit about their models, i dont have experience with SM or any other sites so I cant speak for them. I only work on paid chat sites and they are slow as heck but for me its more of an extra fun money thing so i cant claim that i wouldnt give SM or xpeeps a try or whatev, but I guess you could say Im spoiled by MGF and CC I want them to pay from the time they enter till the time they leave lmao. Gosh 1k in 15 hours! thats the kind of dough we deserve for the hard work we do. I believe that either it will happen in the near future or camming will cease to be worth it anymore...sadly maybe im a cynical (okay i know i am) camgirl but i dont think the future of camming can be saved without some sort of change
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Re: Think paid chat sites will ever make a comeback?
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Originally Posted by
ManyRoses
I don't think that they will ever come back in the same way - if you were a customer, what would you prefer? Seeing a photoshopped, angled, carefully lit photo that could make anyone look incredible, or actually seeing a preview of the exact lighting/makeup/appearance that you are going to get?
What I think is more reasonable and something I would love to see is timed previews. so if a customer doesn't go pvt or tip within, say, 5-10 mins, then they are booted from the show. Best of both worlds!!
I do think that as more and more girls see this as a career and start to build themselves as a brand, content sales will go up again, along with member sites - as guys want to support their favorite girls...
this makes sense too! give an incentive to either sign up and buy credits or enter paid chat. I just mean that I feel like some girls are having too work their freaking butts off for 10-11 hours a day for 98% freeloaders and 2% tippers.
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prisma146
this makes sense too! give an incentive to either sign up and buy credits or enter paid chat. I just mean that I feel like some girls are having too work their freaking butts off for 10-11 hours a day for 98% freeloaders and 2% tippers.
That's how I feel half the time!! Even if the requirement to tip just meant that the guys were tipping $1 every five minutes, that adds up. And more to the point, it might train them to expect to pay.
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Oh I love that idea.. that is great.... kinda like the direct cam on AW.. they get booted from free but you set the time preview
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Originally Posted by
ManyRoses
I don't think that they will ever come back in the same way - if you were a customer, what would you prefer? Seeing a photoshopped, angled, carefully lit photo that could make anyone look incredible, or actually seeing a preview of the exact lighting/makeup/appearance that you are going to get?
What I think is more reasonable and something I would love to see is timed previews. so if a customer doesn't go pvt or tip within, say, 5-10 mins, then they are booted from the show. Best of both worlds!!
I do think that as more and more girls see this as a career and start to build themselves as a brand, content sales will go up again, along with member sites - as guys want to support their favorite girls...
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Originally Posted by
ManyRoses
I don't think that they will ever come back in the same way - if you were a customer, what would you prefer? Seeing a photoshopped, angled, carefully lit photo that could make anyone look incredible, or actually seeing a preview of the exact lighting/makeup/appearance that you are going to get?
What I think is more reasonable and something I would love to see is timed previews. so if a customer doesn't go pvt or tip within, say, 5-10 mins, then they are booted from the show. Best of both worlds!!
I do think that as more and more girls see this as a career and start to build themselves as a brand, content sales will go up again, along with member sites - as guys want to support their favorite girls...
The buyers are much more adaptable to change than you give them credit for.
#1 they already know who we are, what we look like and what we are doing so it's not like anything is a secret to them, and to those that don't already know us, they wouldn't know the difference because they never had it anyway.
#2 I will never forget how up in arms the girls were when they were no longer allowed to charge 99 cents. When the new mandatory price was changed to $2.50 the girls swore this was the end all, be all for camming. They just swore it was the end, but low and behold, we're still here.
What we CAN'T survive is extinguishing an entire set of soft core niches; Companion chat, non-nude, partial nudity, foot fetish, leg fetish, boob fetish, lingerie fetish, eye fetish, hair fetish, strip, tease, dance, panties, smoking and anything else we used to be paid for in the past. Without throwing out names, we watched the fall of SummerS---- as she showed everything and everything in her free chat. In the end she couldn't sell a show or get a tip for the life of her. She came in like a lion and went out in a literal whimper. Tears and all. She cried, she yelled, and ultimately went down in a drunken, tear filled stupor and became the definition of a hot mess.
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anonymous camgirl
Oh I love that idea.. that is great.... kinda like the direct cam on AW.. they get booted from free but you set the time preview
For non-registered viewers the current set up is for timed previews. All they do is dump their cookies and start over. Besides that, it's more cost effective to do away with free video (or shrink it to thumb nail) than it is to design, implement and maintain a timing program.
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Originally Posted by
ManyRoses
That's how I feel half the time!! Even if the requirement to tip just meant that the guys were tipping $1 every five minutes, that adds up. And more to the point, it might train them to expect to pay.
That 98% of freeloaders is mostly minors and people that don't have the money to spend. Think about how much video gamer lingo you see in free chat. "your ___ is sick", ftw", "hawt" etc
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so on AW.. they are not even registered?? i am not familiar with it.. i just started camming on beginning of month.... and there was a cam site called tricams that was like that.. thumbnail free live video
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Originally Posted by
cvarga
For non-registered viewers the current set up is for timed previews. All they do is dump their cookies and start over. Besides that, it's more cost effective to do away with free video (or shrink it to thumb nail) than it is to design, implement and maintain a timing program.