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i think im going back to stripping as my main source of income.
i think im going to go back to stripping as my main sourse of income. ive been camming for 2 years now, and ive put so much effort into it marketing wise, and not seen much of a return in profits. i average about 100 a day, stripping in my area isnt very profitable but i can make more then that dancing. on top of that i really cannot stand having to repeat myself constantly to teh beggers and the complainers and the trolls.
the internet is a harder place for me to make a living at. at the strip club im so comfortable and can make good money fast. i know theres plenty of people out there that cant fathom stripping but to me its much more comfortable. not to mention im tired of being cooped up in my house.
i just though after 2 years i would have a good fan base, but i dont really. i get most of my shows from randoms. i thought i would be making more then 100 a day after 2 years but im not. im not going to completelt throw in the towel, ill still do it once ina while and ill continue to cam for my awesome regulars but im just not happy with how things have not progressed income wise versus all my efforts.
im 32, im not as good at internet stuff as people younger then me are. im ok at it but i cant build webpages or edit code well. im amazing at hustling and dancing and all things stripper, so i think im going to go back to having sore feet every night, instead of a sore back and eyes.
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Good luck to you. I've also been thinking about going back to the clubs for a bit. I guess I'm just burnt out from camming. I find it interesting how comfortable some of us in the adult industry are with just trying another job in the industry :D and it works especially if burnt out.
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wel i wanted to quit dancing and use camming as a transition out, but i just cant afford it anymore, im tired of being broke and not getting paid every day.
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I have given this some thought too. For me it would not be an issue getting hired at most clubs, it would be the issue of wither or not its even worth the drive. My closest club is a 15 minute drive from here. Its a very clean club (no extras), but the money just isn't there. Most of the customers are like furniture and sit around watching the stage. $80 would be a good night there.
There are no other clubs in the area, the second closest is about a 45 minute drive from here and it is riddled with pimps and hard hustlers. Not exactly the nicest neighbourhood either. Then there are the clubs in Mississauga, which everyone knows they are all whore houses. That's a 1.5 hr drive from here. I could drive to downtown TO (1 hr away), but over there you need a license which is around $400.
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Camming isn't for everyone. 100/day is good money to me, and if I never make more than that, I'd still be happy. If I was right for stripping, and had the guts/body for it I would totally go for it.
Stripping isn't really as accommodating for as many body types, ages, etc. E.g. I'm 50lbs overweight right now, but I could still make good money 1-200 online if I put the hours in. I wouldn't even be able to get hired at clubs around here unless I dropped huge amounts of weight. Also, I can cam at 40 and probably make decent money. You can't do that at a stripclub.
Good luck to you though!
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Good luck! I considered stripping but I live out in the middle of nowhere where the only customers would be geezery rednecks and rich kids >_< Not gonna sacrifice what limited mobility I have to deal with that
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I feel ya Crispy! Though cam and making money online is good since we know we can decide to stay at home and make a few hundreds, it is not great ( at-least for me and my efforts as well) ....I am not greedy but for my efforts I want rewards that I am happy about...I feel like if I am working long hours doing "sex work" I want to make no less than $600/day minimum on cam but that is hardly the case..LOL
I work hard with keeping a schedule, working long hours, and marketing and all that but I just don't see the results I want to see. None-the-less I am happy and appreciative of the money I can make from home in general since it is pretty good but when you are trying to progress and push for more and give more and don't see the results you want it is like hmmmmm okay..lol
But cam and all other online gigs are good for what they are good for~ making good money from the comfort of our home 24/7 365...
If anything supplementing cam and online gigs with other offline work is the best combo for me. Offline work is more lucrative for me and days when I am not working offline or it is slow or whatever , I can just set up shop, hop online and make money too...which will maximize income. Best of both worlds...Plus it gives variety too. As sometimes it can be boring to be in the house so much making money and I just want to socialize with real people more.
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good god if i could make 600 a day camming even if it was only once a week i would consider camming worthwhile. if i made 200 a day consistantly i would stay camming, becuase in the clubs here if your good at what you do your going to make about 2-300 i almost always left with at least 200.
i was a dancer for 10 years, its just ingrained in me, and truethfully i enjoy most of it. suprisingly its the other girls i dislike the most. ive always worked in classy clubs and ALWAYS KEPT MY INTEGRITY AND MORALS. if you do that, you can enjoy dancing forever, or until the money dries up.
those of you that do really well camming my hat goes off to you becuase its a lot harder then dancing emotionally at least for me.
i guess ill try it out this week and see how it goes, and go from there!
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I loved stripping, and if I moved back to the UK, or to an area that had the style of clubs I prefer, I would definitely do a bit of stripping on the side! Where I am now, all the clubs are super stage-based, all about the circuit girls, no real champagne rooms or "geisha experience" situations, which is what I prefer to do.
That said, as long as I keep making what I need to get my career as an artist off the ground, I'll be happy.
Good luck crispy!!!!
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Re: i think im going back to stripping as my main source of income.
You gotta do whatever is best for you.
That being said, I will miss your posts in this section. :(
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For better or worse, working in a particular strip club immediately narrows down your 'sales objectives' to a limited number of customers and a limited number of competing dancers. And the different strip clubs themselves have already narrowed down the customer base you'll have access to ( i.e. penny pinching stage watchers versus free spending VIP room guys ), as well as the 'characteristics' of dancers you will be competing against. Thus returning to a strip club that has already narrowed down its customer base to being 'upscale', and a strip club that has already narrowed the 'characteristics' of its dancer to also be 'upscale', can provide excellent earnings potential. On the flip side, another strip club that does not / cannot appeal to 'upscale' customers and does not / cannot limit the 'characteristics' of its dancers to some minimum standard is likely to provide rotten earnings potential ( well, if all the dancer is trying to sell is dances, anyhow ! ).
For better or worse, the webcam business model does not 'narrow down' the ability of 'upscale' camgirls to connect with 'upscale' customers. It effectively lumps together ALL sorts of customers and ALL sorts of camgirls, thus in the absence of some major 'waving flag' ( like porn star status ) makes customer to camgirl connections a highly random exercise. IMHO the webcam business model will be forced to change eventually, but right now it is what it is.
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I have kept dancing even when I started camming. I can never put all my eggs in one basket ever! I work as many jobs as possible and hide all my $$$.
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I wish you luck on your re-entry into dancing.
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cherry after dancign for 10 years i know all the pros and cons very very well. thats really all i can say to your long post :)
im probobly going to keep camming, but only once in a while. as far as trying to criss cross clients into camming from stripclubs, it doesnt happen. they either tend to love lcubs or cam, i havent found many that do both. i found that to be suprising.
at least going back to dancing i can try and do mfc, and build up a fan base there without worrying about finances from that site. i never did well there but i liked the flexablity of what you can do there.
for some reason on SM i cant seem to get shows longer then 10 minutes for themost part. i was online the other day for 2 hours and did 11 shows, all less then 10 minutes. thats pretty much why camming doesnt work for me. either im too good at my job and they get off too fast or im terrible and they leave. lol. considering i have 5 stars it must be the former. but i guess im not that great at keeping them in my room and dragging things out.
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I have to admit...I have been thinking about going back, too. I'm getting really burnt out camming and I made a lot more dancing.
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Charlotteslut
OJenni, about the ontario license for dancing...would that show up on a background check that you were a sex worker? Or is it a general license for all performers (e.g. performance artists, actors, other dancers, etc. )? Thanks.
No its an exotic dancer license. And its only for Toronto. Some cities have licenses, some don't. Where I live there is no license, but then again there is only one club in like a 50 KM radius (or something like that). And that club would be hard up for dancers if everyone had to get a license.
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I went from stripping to camming and back to stripping. I applaud the girls who cam and are happy with it but it's simply not enough for me. Regardless of the amount that you have to payout to a club, you're not going to be giving them more than camming sites will take. Yes, it is possible to leave with nothing but with stripping you have to average it out over the week / month / year. There are days when I make 60$ and days when I make 1200$. Those are extremes, and normally what I make falls inbetween the two, but the possibility is there. IMO, the possibility to leave a day of camming with 600$ is like, impossible for the average person.
despite all the negatives of stripping, what I think is the biggest advantage of it over camming is that you're not working for every minute of attention. Once you get a guy to the VIP room or dance room or whatever, you are guaranteed 20$ - at least one song. If you don't mind the levels of contact and you don't mind the competition, I see no reason to go for it - especially if you have done it in the past. Yes, you might be going on stage for guys who have been there all night nursing a warm beer but let's face it, when you're on cam and no one is buying but you haven't made your goal and are sitting in free chat... that's not all that different.
good luck to you! I am sooo glad I went back. If you want further support, send me a PM and we can chat there :)
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i am keeping camming as side but mainly dance.
I love too much the feel of the immediate cash in my hands
the cammin money is just gravy, which is nice
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Ya I do the same as cristella. Dancing is my bread and camming just gives me a lil extra.
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If I believed for a minute I could do better stripping I would (I'm far from perfect and my cam hides a lot). When the economy goes down alcohol sales are up. The 2012 predictions regarding the economy are very grim, bordering on catastrophic. That's not to say men don't stay home and drink but at least in a strip club they are pretty much required to spend something or risk getting booted out by a big burly bouncer. Cam performers don't have this luxury.
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Wow really?! 2012 has been much better for me than 2010 and 2011. I plan for the worst and hope for the best. So far so good.
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Originally Posted by
cvarga
When the economy goes down alcohol sales are up. The 2012 predictions regarding the economy are very grim, bordering on catastrophic. That's not to say men don't stay home and drink but at least in a strip club they are pretty much required to spend something or risk getting booted out by a big burly bouncer. Cam performers don't have this luxury.
I'm my own big burly bouncer bb ;D
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Re: i think im going back to stripping as my main source of income.
Could you maybe get a day job and then supplement with stripping money?
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cvarga
If I believed for a minute I could do better stripping I would (I'm far from perfect and my cam hides a lot).
You should see how flattering the lights in strip clubs are!! Just as a random side note - The dark lighting, high heels and cold room make everyone look so much better than they are - I look way better in the club than on cam!!
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Originally Posted by
cvarga
That's not to say men don't stay home and drink but at least in a strip club they are pretty much required to spend something or risk getting booted out by a big burly bouncer.
unfortunately, this is rarely the case :(