LOL sometimes I wonder if ppl shove milk duds and plop them out. honestly, I thought we couldn't do that...am I wrong..not about milkduds but the actual pooping.
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In the other work section there is a thread that has a link to a place that sells hypno videos - you have to show participation on their forum and post 10 videos then you are allowed to sell on the site - i think the thread was ways to make money
i;d rather be stuck in the toy era.........
I am still stuck in the toy era - my drawers are overflowing....guys love multiple ones at once.
I don't think it's a matter of being stuck in one era or another. I have always done female domination. I don't do scat or pee, I mainly stick with what I enjoy in real life(feet, humiliation, tease and denial). The great thing about this biz is we can all do what we like. It's just different markets. I think every girl should do what is comfortable and what she likes doing. I don't do scat/poo because I don't like it, I don't knock people who do but it's not my thing. I think if a girl doesn't like fetish she should still be able to make money with clips. Now on c4s it might be harder, because they are more targeted towards fetish, but I bet on other sites vanilla girls do awesome.
Even faking scat (rubbing melted chocolate all over your ass) isn't allowed. I don't show the "brown" on video sites or off of them. Not ever. I don't want to risk my store getting shut down. Plus, mega-ew.
I do videos watching 'voyeur' and all they can hear is the sounds - those sell really well and is allowed on C4S.
Piss is allowed on C4S as long as you are not pissing on someone else, and no one is drinking it.
As far as MGF goes - to them you are an independent performer. Whatever you choose to do falls on you. So, if some cop finds you shitting on napkins and eating it, they don't shut down the site - they go after YOU and YOU get in-trouble.
Just because other people are doing something, doesn't make it legal. ::)
well I meant I'd be rather " stuck in the toy era"( quoting MissMafia) because the thought of someone owning/viewing a video of me doing ... er... er... ( lol) is not on the list..
This thought is not on my thinking process list.....
its not a like or dislike- its nonexistent.
I refuse to believe that there is a satisfaction in knowing someone is viewing a video of......... of a ....."model"
and I personally want to have a little bit of satisfaction in my work field.
I want to be called a model.. a Performer...
I dont know how would someone call someone else whos selling such videos...a seller..of just.. ANYTHING!
you see ....if WE dont set limits in this job, how can we blame the customers when they ask " is there a toddler near you"..(refference to the "F***ing Sicko" thread)...
if you're ( anyone) allowed to sell anything, give them the right to ask anything!
this is speaking in general............
OK...?
But if you don't like fetish...okay....no problem.
But if someone does something fetish. (even if you or other people find it "bad" or "gross") it doesn't strip someone of being a Model or Performer. Do you think FemDom isn't "performance" ? - you have to know the fetish or you'll make yourself look stupid. Idk, I'm getting a really snooty, 'nose-in-the-air' vibe from your post.
Just because you or anyone else does toy shows doesn't mean you're better than everyone who doesn't.
People have plenty of limits. Some girl who does anal it doesn't mean she will fist her ass. Just because I laugh at some guys tiny cock, it doesn't mean I will drive to his house to cut it off if he begs me. Just because someone does one thing, don't assume they will do something insane...
And I'm pretty sure no one is 100% no-limits. Men ask us sick questions as a joke (mostly) or in reference to kids/animals, etc...because they like it. But blame them. Not us. They still ask us regardless if you only do toy shows or only do FemDom or fetish. It doesn't matter.
Just because some of us do something other than dildo riding - it doesn't mean we're all giving them a green light to break the law and wanting to participate in it either.
We're ALL still models and performers, it doesn't matter what you find 'icky' or not.
Totally agreed, Hayden!
Me, personally, well, I'm in love with fetishes, I love researching them, I love pretty much everything about them. I don't have a problem with "gross" fetishes either, I don't do "brown" for example but I don't care if others do. Everyone earns their money as they see fit. I feel a kind of an intellectual challenge in doing GOOD fetish videos. I mean you can't just do anything and expect it to sell (or they will sell and your next video will not, and I have to admit, I have some categories where this thing happened to me...).
I don't have a problem if someone thinks less of me because of the fetishes I do. I like it, I make money and that is what counts.
I have a very sad story too;D I used to be in the top stores in sneezing category; my sneezing clips sold like hot cakes - I got many custom requests, and I have many great ideas that I know would sell well. But I CAN'T make myself sneeze anymore! It's driving me crazy. So if anyone has any great methods, let me know:D Same for hiccups:-[
Try pepper or tickling your nose with a qtip or small paintbrush?Quote:
Originally Posted by ClaudiaReina
You just looooove analyzing opinions, Hayden, dont u :P
Analyze this and let me be direct so there is no misunderstanding:
Taking a shit on cam is not being a performer.
Performer....as in, entertainer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fridays
What is a 'performer'?
Only in your eyes or the custys?
Lots of vanilla people would argue someone masturbating for money isn't 'performing' anything. But we could counter that.
I don't think that woman who wrote 'Fifty Shades Of Grey' is worthy of the title 'author'. I think Kirstin Stewert is a terrible actress. But their fans enjoy them. People are entertained by them.
I'm sure the girls who cater to that fetish are entertaining to the men who seek it out.
Because, as gross as it may be, its still a fetish. And there is big money in it.
EDIT: Yes it's gross, yes it's only taking a shit...no skill involved, etc. Not arguing or trying to defend that, lol. Point: This can swing to porn or any other fetishes though. The entertainment factor...performance, whatever you want to call it...is up to the viewer. The person paying. That is my point.
So if a scat-fetish guy thinks Suzie can shit like a pro? Then damn, lol she must be a champ. And she's probably wipeing her ass with $20 bills from all the money she made in those 2 minutes, lol.
Well Fridays I would like to think that every performer enjoys their job.
I like telling guys they are idiots and that I want to kick them in the nuts. So my work satisfies me very much.
I'll grant that perhaps I don't see as much because I only do non-nude femdom stuff but I have been a PSO since the 90's and guys asked for pedo stuff then. I did then what I do now hang up and report them. Trust me the adult industry has always attracted that sort of sick individual, and it always will.No matter what we do.
You know I could sit here and put my nose in the air about being non-nude and say I'm better because I keep my clothes on, but I wouldn't because it's not true. In the end we all sell sexual gratification.
Think about this pro-dommes look down on escorts, escorts look down on hookers, strippers look down on cam girls. non-nude girls look down on nude girls, nude girls look down on fetish, but in the end society looks down on us all.
There are many things that other girls do that I would never, but I can't see the point in getting angry as long as it is not illegal or non-consensual. You are entitled to your opinion about scat but the larger world sees you and I and the scat girl as one and the same.
How is doing fetish work not a performance? Just because I do something on cam doesn't mean I do that in real life. Hell, even poopings!! do I spend 10 minutes sitting on the toilet normally? Hell no. if there is a camera pointed at me, do I play it up and make straining faces? Yea, it adds to the performance.
I am not into 50% of what I do, but I do it because it is my job to entertain my audience. How does that make me less of a performer/entertainer?
Fridays - this is your cycle:
youll start or derail threads expressing your disgust or distaste at non-mainstream sex stuff
Then people explain their counter-position indepth, usually with personal testimonials
You'll repeat yourself
They'll repeat themselves
You'll repeat yourself
They'll repeat themselves
If it goes on too long or anyone gets too personal you concede defeat or say "to each his own" and / or apologize
Then a few months will go by and it'll happen again
OK you think anything not vanilla is gross and the people who do them are weird. Got it. We got your message. Loud and clear. Again, and again, and again............. and again.
Back to videos!
for some reason so much in this thread has made me lol!!!!!!!!!!!
Claudia, I can make myself sneeze better sometimes with a rolled up tissue, or a paintbrush does work very well!
Roast - I have to say... Thank you.
Thanks for everyone who has put their input but let's stay on the HOW TO MAKE videos topics :)
Shit sells, literally in the effect that guys like to see it. As everyone has said, many of us do what we are asked to - who cares if we like it - it's a job, and we make bank at whatever.
Of course the videos go along with personal testimony, but we don't need battles on what works for some that doesn't work for all.
:) Awesome input ladies - thanks for making this thread awesome - keep em coming.
What about feet videos? Tease and denial?
I would also like a how to on the humilation thing in general.
Many guys are like - tell me how I was in a corner watchin you fuck someone else... or tell me how much of a slut I am..
Are there certain degrees of it? can any dommes explain? the psychology and the selling it... :)
Sorry for TJ - sometimes I forget what I want to say after I have typed a post... Forgive me.
Fridays - I would have to disagree.
when you have a job - you often do things you hate doing because it's a job. Like, when you work in a fast food place, cleaning the bathroom. NO one wants to do that, period. But there are some who don't mind doing it and will do it.
The only difference between that kind of place and camming is the money. Hence, the phrase, I don't get paid enough to do that.
Just like taking a poop on cam - we may not like to do it, some of us anyways, but the money is frugal in that - that's why we do it. I completely agree with staying in the toy era, because predominately, I love my toys as well. Often times, I find myself using toys more than anything - but I need to get some variety in my game because I don't want my clients to get bored... Plus, I am always baffled on some topics, which is why I started the thread. So, many of the times, we have to act like we like something, just to make the buck. Even if you are having the most shitty day ever, you keep on smiling on cam, why because you make money, still.
As far as limitations go - the word NO is really all I need. I have satisfaction at the end of the day because really, if I am helping someone who is helping me, all is well in the world, even if it is sex related. But, if someone asks me something, I can say no...and I do it A LOT when it comes to what I will and will not do.
I like you Fridays - you were always a cool chick...but we are all women, that PMS, are super head strong, some are laid back and we all aren't going to agree on these types of things. Thanks for your opinion but, I just would really like the thread to stay on topic is all. To a certain degree we will offer the personal testimonials -but we can't just let the thread drive on opinions like that alone. Most of you girls, I like too - some I know, some I don't know. Some of you remember me as being the super head strong bitch that used to trip shit... Times have changed and I would just like to get as much advice outta this thread as possible for myself and anyone else who reads it.
I didn't type this to get the last word or anything because I asked to drop it - but just because I would disagree with you or anyone else in anywhere here, doesn't mean I don't respect you any less as my camming counterpart. We are here to get the best advice for the industry, making money, and keeping each other afloat when it comes to attitudes. We are all different, do different things on cam and conduct ourselves differently... That's what makes this site amazing - because we have that. But even though I said drop it, I didn't want people to think that personal opinions weren't allowed, because they are - just in a watered down version without causing a mass argument somewhere down the line. I don't want to ever, have to report my own thread. I typed this because if it wasn't FOR many of you ladies, these posts, and so on - I would be a SHITTY cam girl.
xoxoxox So anyways, what's the biggest fetish video on the market right now in your opinion? and how did you make it?