Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
Honestly... I like to think outside the box. Part of thinking outside the box is being scared or worried, but the difference is you go with the flow and don't let "what ifs" get to you. That is also true with any form or growth, and any form of risk you take that may lead to a big payoff. And its good for one-upping your competition and preparing yourself for what the future may or may not hold. So its good to hear facts, theories, and information from all points of view. You don't have to agree with it. Or even read it. But what's so wrong with hearing a point of view? I personally like Melonie's posts.
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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Sophia_Starina
Your quote:
"If Obamacare survives, there will be lower quality treatment in America. "
Based on what evidence exactly?
"I probably wouldn't have survived at the hands of a doctor outside America."
Based on what evidence exactly?
This is all hypothetical ^^^. It is pure speculation, supposition and goodness knows what other amorphous, nebulous, nonsense.
First, how are we going to provide better medical service to more people for less money?
Second, my comments on my surgery were influenced by what i was told about the surgery i had and the research I did after the fact. Most people who suffer what i suffered don't even make even make it the emergency room and my surgeon was supposedly a rock star among similar doctors when it came to repairing a dissection of the aorta and a valve replacement simultaneously. I was not expected to survive that surgery 9 years ago.
Third, my comments regarding possible surgery in your future were prefaced with an "if and when". so offense ought not be taken.
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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bem401
So the US had a reason to withhold money......Question : What's more important to Americans, US foreign policy or UN policies? Answer : US foreign policy. Why should we support with a billion dollars an agency that doesn't support what's best for the US?
And as far as dancers are concerned, just like any other occupation, they need to be responsible for themselves. If they slipped and fell while on stage and required emergency treatment, they'd get it. Stop trying to play the Leftist game of "divide and conquer" in an attempt to have dancers rally behind you.
Because the UN is an independent organization, and it should stay that way. It should not be an instrument to enforce US foreign policy objectives abroad. Dancers would get for free medical help, right? Well, let me know where they can receive free medical care in case they slip and fall injuring themselves. And, why would I need dancers to rally behind me? Leftist? Your arguments would be more convincing if you present them without resorting to name-calling and labeling. Looking at these issues through your lens, one would get the impression that even Roosevelt's New Deal was a socialist project.:P
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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bem401
Exactly which countries have better health care than us?
-France
-Italy
-Spain
-Germany
-Singapore
-Japan
-Denmark
-Sweden
-Norway
-Argentina
-South Korea
-Netherlands
-Portugal
-Austria
-Belgium
-Switzerland
Just to mention a few that have better care than in the US. The biggest problem with the US healthcare is that is a defensive system, and not preventive. If we switch to a more preventive system, the prices will go down significantly. Also, if we give more power to the doctors and less to insurance companies we could see more improvements.
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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Originally Posted by
Think!
Because the UN is an independent organization, and it should stay that way. It should not be an instrument to enforce US foreign policy objectives abroad. Dancers would get for free medical help, right? Well, let me know where they can receive free medical care in case they slip and fall injuring themselves. And, why would I need dancers to rally behind me? Leftist? Your arguments would be more convincing if you present them without resorting to name-calling and labeling. Looking at these issues through your lens, one would get the impression that even Roosevelt's New Deal was a socialist project.:P
1. We shouldn't financially support any organizations whose goals don't coincide with ours. That includes the UN.
2. Emergency rooms turn no one away. Any injured dancer would receive treatment. Nobody is entitled to fee medical care. Just like anyone else, dancers ought to provide for themselves when it comes to healthcare.
3. When one goes on a stripper website, engages in a political argument, and tries to portray his opposition as being anti-stripper, he's clearly looking for a groundswell of support. Its no different than the bones Obama continually throws to his political constituencies.
4. FDR's New Deal involved way too much government meddling in American life.
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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Originally Posted by
Jay12
-France
-Italy
-Spain
-Germany
-Singapore
-Japan
-Denmark
-Sweden
-Norway
-Argentina
-South Korea
-Netherlands
-Portugal
-Austria
-Belgium
-Switzerland
Just to mention a few that have better care than in the US. The biggest problem with the US healthcare is that is a defensive system, and not preventive. If we switch to a more preventive system, the prices will go down significantly. Also, if we give more power to the doctors and less to insurance companies we could see more improvements.
And your basis for naming them is???? Several of them are in worse financial shape than we are to boot. And several of those countries see residents travel to the US for treatment when they can.Do you really thinking having the government take over will mean more power for the doctors? That's actually the opposite of what is expected to be a result of Obamacare, should it survive (which appears highly uinlikely at this point).
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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Originally Posted by
bem401
And your basis for naming them is???? Several of them are in worse financial shape than we are to boot. Do you really thinking having the government take over will mean more power for the doctors? That's actually the opposite of what is expected to be a result of Obamacare, should it survive (which appears highly uinlikely at this point).
The WHO!
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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bem401
1. Emergency rooms turn no one away. Any injured dancer would receive treatment. Nobody is entitled to fee medical cared. Just like anyone else, dancers ought to provide for themselves when it comes to healthcare.
But hospitals should turn away illegal immigrants, right? I mean why should we take care of 'illegals' who are a financial drain to our economy? While we are at it, let's lump in 'illegal' dancers because they too are also a drain to the economy.
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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Jay12
The WHO!
That's an arm of the UN, which has already been identified as being somewhat opposed to the US.
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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Originally Posted by
Think!
But hospitals should turn away illegal immigrants, right? I mean why should we take care of 'illegals' who are a financial drain to our economy? While we are at it, let's lump in 'illegal' dancers because they too are also a drain to the economy.
My tax dollars shouldn't be used to support anything for people who are here against the law. Whether than person is a dancer or not is immaterial.
Re: Potential Impact On Dancers / College Girls re new Young 'Illegal Immigrants' Ord
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Originally Posted by
bem401
My tax dollars shouldn't be used to support anything for people who are here against the law. Whether than person is a dancer or not is immaterial.
On StripperWeb, we should not discriminate between documented and undocumented dancers. :)
By the way, undocumented immigrants pay sales taxes, and employers pay payroll taxes. Henceforth, undocumented immigrants contribute to the economy.