I'm considering doing this to cut down on the free-peakers but when I'm afraid of missing out on having multiple guys in my private chat versus only 1 in exclusive. For those of you that have done this, did you notice a decrease in your earnings?
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I'm considering doing this to cut down on the free-peakers but when I'm afraid of missing out on having multiple guys in my private chat versus only 1 in exclusive. For those of you that have done this, did you notice a decrease in your earnings?
Me. I still have guys buying premium, probably they don't even check the price, and occasionally I have multiple guys in my premium altough it's not so common for me, it's like someone comes in: 80% will be freeloader 20% will stay for a while. And that 20% will either not rate me, or give me less than 5 stars. I just prefer excl.
I think it's worth it if the peekers are bothering you. They really didn't used to be that bad, but it's gotten way out of hand. Sometimes I have hubby ban guys for me because it gets so bad. Other times, I use one hand to "do my show" and the other hand to ban guys. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that annoys the ones who are paying.
I wish gold shows didn't suck so much, because that eliminates the issue. It's too bad that was SM's solution to the peekers. They kept talking about fixing the issue & I thought they were actually going to hold ALL the customers accountable, but nope. Anyway...
Some guys won't check your price and just go private anyway. At least if they're paying you $8.99/min or whatever, it makes up for the guys who are jumping out w/o paying. Also, I'd rather make a little less money than deal with the peekers and the guys who come in giving orders, insisting you pay attention to them, even though there are already four guys in the room. Also, in exclusive, if the one customer is bothering you and you want to stop streaming, at least you don't have to worry about turning it off on others still paying you.
Same here, i have had it with those loosers
yes! I charge maximum for private and less for exclusive. besides that, I prefer exclusive because I can customize the show the way he/she wants it. It gets me extremely good ratings.
I really don't mind the fools that click private though because they are paying at least double for a not so custom private. lol. I do whatever the fuck I want in privates and take me sweet time.
Problem is, I don't think it would do anything about the free peekers. They don't pay until it hits that right second mark so they'd leave before they even got to the point where they had to pay the higher rate. It would only discourage guys who intend to get a short show ("lemmie get it hard for you bb") and keep you from having to deal with people interrupting the show or from having multiple people to cater to in the room at once.
I have my Private or group rate set at a higher price. Anytime a guy clicks that option by mistake, it never fails, I get a slew of freeloaders who come in, stay for under 30 seconds and bail. They are just hoping to catch the money shot. They are like the guys who sit in your room if you do flashes for tips and wait around hoping someone ELSE will tip you so they can see for free. Funny, I always kick the ones who have been parked in my room when someone tips because I know their game. I would rather do one on ones anyways and if people want a group show do a Gold show because these guys know the loopholes. Never fails everytime I am on someone mentions that I have my private rate higher and wonder why. LOL
Thanks for this thread. I don't usually have a big problem. I'm used to the occasional stray but this morning what I experienced was enough to last my career and then some. Two guys especially, kept logging in for about 15 to 20 seconds each in tandem. They would log off and then log right back in through out my entire show. I was able to ban them both. One guy has been doing it to me since January but he's been so slick I haven't been able to catch him.
Anyway I switched my prices around and was much more comfortable in my shows. Thank you!!
I recently made my private more expensive then excl. So much better! I'm sure everyone is different, but privates were totally annoying for me. Guys constantly coming in thinking they were alone and asking for fetish stuff, their name called out, BJ show only, certain toys used/positions etc.
I'm hoping that this way they'll be more likely to click excl. and I can concentrate on what they want, and not have to stop in the middle of a prvt and explain to them that "I can do that in excl, this is a group show". I never get all that many paying people in group anyway, so why not?
I charge $9.99 for premium and $4.99 for exclusive.
Now that my premium rate is so high it makes it easier for me to let go of all the freeloaders who peek because the person who is paying for group is essentially paying for two people.
Does it drive anyone else crazy OTHER than me when guys come in and say:
"Why 4 your premium is more expensive than your exclusive? You are doing it WRONG, bb? Why 4 you do it wrong?"
Um, I don't need to justify what I decided to charge to you or what my decisions are. Just because the majority of people decided to do something one way doesn't automatically mean that it is the default 'right' way for me.
That's fine though because they won't see a damn thing. One guy comes in, you start the show AFTER he's paying. If he doesn't stay long enough to pay, you ban him for pulling you into a non-paid show. No one else can come in while he's in.
The problem with regular private is the assholes wait until you've been in the room a while and they figure you're probably in the middle of a show. You can't stop performing each time one comes in, wait until he's paying, then continue.
E-mail support and give them the names of those two guys. They will ban their accounts from the site, especially if you tell them about the guy who's been doing it since Jan. I don't normally bother or I'd be sending HUNDREDS of e-mails per week. But I've had a few who evaded my ban button for a long time.
When I finally banned them, I e-mailed support and got their accounts shut down. Or if support didn't shut them down, they at least suspended the account so the customer had to call and have it reopened.
SM may allow shady shit to go on, but they won't continue to support a customer who will NEVER pay for a show.
Argh, why oh why do you keep making me double-post tonight SW?
--Double Post
I raised my premium sky rocket high to just cater to exclusives, and I am making more money than I ever have on Streamate. Exclusive guys just tend to stay longer in my opinion. Plus, I love when guys go premium without checking the price or reading my room topic that I don't do premiums. Making 20 dollars in 4 minutes of practically doing nothing is pretty sweet. :D
Private is actually called premium when members click the button.
I have mine switched and yes I constantly hear shit cause my premium rate is $7/min. I don't care, I rarely have more than one at a time in private anyway and guys are getting a deal with me all to themselves for cheaper.
One thing to realize is that most brand new members do not see the option to go Exclusive for some reason and are only given the option to go premium. I've explained this to several guys cause they just did not have the option. I don't know if they have to hit a certain spending amount or what. It's only some new accounts too, not all, so it may just be certain whitelabels.
I was told by Streamate (so take this with a grain of salt) that new members can only see the premium rates until they have paid for at least one show. Then they can also see the exclusive options.Quote:
One thing to realize is that most brand new members do not see the option to go Exclusive for some reason and are only given the option to go premium. I've explained this to several guys cause they just did not have the option. I don't know if they have to hit a certain spending amount or what. It's only some new accounts too, not all, so it may just be certain whitelabels.
Yeah, that's what I mean. All of us who have brains in our heads *gestures around to the forum* don't start shows until the first guy in is paying. The guys who wait and enter when "the good stuff starts" (pricks) aren't going to be deterred by a raised rate, since they know they're going to bounce before they have to pay. There are definitely benefits to having a higher rate for group, but I don't think that keeping peekers out is going to be a major one. It'll work in the sense that most, if not all, of your shows will be exclusives so peekers won't be able to enter at all, but if someone does decide to do a group show, they'll pay and peekers will still ogle on their dime.
....we're both debating on the same side of the argument aren't we?