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Camming with a professional day job?
Hello all!
I have a question for you lovely ladies! I am a RN by day, but I am really wanting to cam solo and with my hubby on my down time to see how it goes. I just got 600 cc implants I am now a nice yummy 32G! I use to strip 10 years ago and made great money with itty bitty boobs lol! I am 31, but look younger and my hubby is 33. My only issue moving forward is what happens if my job finds out! I know I can block my state, but of course there is the chance someone will record my show or whatever! So I guess my question is have any of you ever had your job find out and can they fire you for it? Thanks bunches ladies!
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Yes, I do know a girl who was fired from her job as a high school teacher when it was discovered that she sells her adult clips online. Not only was she fired from that school, but she can no longer teach because she has violated the code of ethics. I'm not sure if this is a temporary suspension or permanent revocation of her license, but either way it is very real.
As far as health care, if you work around in children in any way, shape, or form you would be smart to avoid a job as a cam model. If you strictly work with adults (say, geriatrics) there may not be as large of a risk of you getting terminated. However, if you apply for other RN jobs in the future your cam job may potentially come up in background checks and yes, they may choose not to hire you if you were an adult entertainer.
There are girls here who currently work or are planning on working vanilla jobs and feel like camming isn't a huge security threat; the risk is worth it to them and they haven't been found out yet. However, there is a very real risk that this job may permanently affect your ability to land mainstream jobs. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
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WOW!! How did they find out and did she use her real name or something? I work in the E.R so I work with all populations! I don't know what I should do now! I make 30 bucks an hour and it pays my bills just barely! That's why I was looking into camming, but I don't wanna screw myself ya know!
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Well, she used a fake name as her stage name, but when you sign up for these cam sites you must provide your legal name for payment and tax puposes. If I recall correctly (I don't know her in person, I only know her online through sites I work on and forums), she worked at a high school. I assume that either a student found her while looking for porn and spread it around, or perhaps one of her coworkers caught wind and let the cat out of the bag. Also, there are some crazy people in this world. If you have a crazy ex or someone who's out to get you, all they'd have to do is make an anonymous phone call to your boss and report that you are violating the code of ethics of the hospital you are working at. It really isn't likely that something like that would happen, but it's also not outside of the realm of possibility.
I started modeling over two years ago, and after the first few months when I lost my "real" job it has been my primary and at times my sole income ever since. Knowing what I know after seeing my own experiences and those other others, I would never enter into camming unless I was 100% sure that I wanted to be independently employed for the rest of my life. I honestly LOVE camming, I am not a top girl and I'm not rolling in dough but I pay my bills, I pay my taxes, I watch my savings account grow, and I do it all on MY terms. But, if I ever wanted to work a corporate or professional job and have to subject myself through the interview and hiring process, I probably would not have entered into camming as it really can limit future opportunities.
If you are looking to supplement your income and feel drawn to the adult industry, have you considered becoming a phone sex operator? It won't earn you as much as camming will, but it's also a LOT less risky if you are worried about being found out. That's how I got started in the adult industry six years ago and I really loved it. The only reason that I don't work the phones anymore is because my average hourly rate on camming is higher than on the phones and I don't have the time/energy for both. But, if you are only doing phone sex to supplement your income you may be okay with the lower earning potential (depending upon your financial goals). Some phone sex companies pay crap, but I did work for one back in the day that payed VERY well and didn't require set hours or anything. I don't want to post the company for all the world to see, but PM me if you are interested and I will give you some more information. If I ever went back to PSO I would only work for this company (if they would have me back, as I just sort of stopped logging in rather than giving formal notice). I only worked with them very part time, as I had a full time college course load and full time job, but I was still making around $250 a week, or $1,000/month. Again, not a huge amount, certainly not camming money, but it's not something to sneeze at either :)
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When people you know IRL find out you're in the adult industry it is usually because they found you on a site themselves, not that a site leaked your info.
There are lots of other threads about this in the forum. The bottom line is, if you want to show yourself off but absolutely would be destroyed if the info got out, go to swingers clubs. You can swing without ever having sex with another couple (just say you're doing a show, not playing) and there won't be any incriminating video online for your supervisor to potentially stumble over.
And no, disguising yourself won't work if someone really knows you IRL. "Isn't that So and So with a wig and contouring makeup on?" "Gee, she sounds just like So and So."
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For what it's worth, I know an RN who has also been a cammodel for many many years (at least 8 or so, by now?), who has never had any issues. This includes a lengthy stint doing locum tenens, which, as you know, means frequent (monthly?) background checks.
Just wanted to let you know it's been done, and done successfully. Your mileage may vary.
It's my opinion that you are more likely to be 'outed' by someone you have personally over-blabbed to, than by a background check or the site itself. Keep your mouth shut and your nose otherwise clean, and you might be able to swing it.
(Others will disagree with me. Collect your own 'data' and form your own opinion.)
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Thanks for your answers ladies~! I have a lot to think about! I don't plan on telling anyone if I do this, but I know there is always a chance it will get out! I may let my hubby go solo first and see how he does. I would hate to lose my job and suck at cam modeling lol! Hell if I got fired i'd have to make it work full-time!
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you should be careful, i think melonie on here couldnt use her medical license because of past adult work. and theres a code of ethics for children but also old people, thats why they do background checks for nurse aids. hospitals can be a real pain in the ass, and remember the cam sites have your soc # , people on mfc and streamates got mailed tax forms this year right? i mean now that youre already hired it shouldnt be a problem right? just dont brag about it.
but hey, even if you do get caught, good thing nursing is a broad field, and most jobs dont do background checks on old employers (although some do) and nurses hate their jobs, they often quit and so, places get desperate for nurses. this one nursing home i worked at i no called no showed like for an entire week, i swear, and they didnt fire me. they really needed aids and nurses. this other girl i worked with was always on drugs and everyone knew it, but she never got fired, so in my opinion, theres always somewhere that will take you,
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Thanks Alys, I can't stand my job now, but it pays the bills lol! If I knew I could make bank camming and still pay all my bills it wouldn't be an issue, but we all know that you never know if you are going to sink or swim with camming!
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hotcoaco
I may let my hubby go solo first and see how he does.
Allow me to be your magic-8-ball: your hubby will do pretty lousy. I'm not trying to be a bitch--- it's just a fact that the market does not work in the opposite direction. Women get paid to be sexual/seductive; men do not.
Not a good barometer of whether YOU will do well, at all.
But if you want to use him as a 'guinea pig' for seeing how the "general camming system" works, sure... I can see how that would make sense.
Good luck with whatever you decide!!
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LOL! Thanks Jessica, I don't know how he will do, but he is one freaky dude and down for whatever lol! I know some guys make money and others not so much! I guess I will keep surfing and googling and make up my mind. I am at a fork in the road I guess you could say, either go the sex worker route or keep the legit Vanilla job.
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^ if he is willing to get down and dirty for gay men online then sure he can def make a decent wage at cam. men in general DO NOT make the money like woman do. so u can't really compare his success/failure w/how u will do. apples and oranges. good luck :)
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you should be careful, i think melonie on here couldnt use her medical license because of past adult work. and theres a code of ethics for children but also old people, thats why they do background checks for nurse aids. hospitals can be a real pain in the ass, and remember the cam sites have your soc # , people on mfc and streamates got mailed tax forms this year right? i mean now that youre already hired it shouldnt be a problem right? just dont brag about it.
In my own case, before I had ever started dancing / camming / featuring I had worked as a Respiratory Therapist. Like an RN, LPN, and many other 'professions', this required that I pass state exams and apply for a state professional license ... which I did right after graduating from college. After figuring out that I really wasn't making a bunch of financial headway working as an RT, and after being 'sidelined' for several months due to contracting TB from one of my hospital patients, I wound up quitting work as an RT altogether in favor of 'serious professional dancing' and camming.
However, after 10 years had passed, it was necessary for me to either surrender or renew my RT professional license. Figuring that investing a few hundred dollars for renewal would at least keep open future options should I ever want or need to return to being an RT, I applied for renewal. However, as part of the state's professional licensing board's renewal process, they performed another ( in depth ) background check. That background check of course turned up the fact that I had worked for a well known webcam host site, that I had worked for a couple of well known strip club chains, etc. The state professional licensing board then 'charged' me with 'unprofessional conduct' i.e. having worked in the adult entertainment industry while holding a professional license. The fact that I wasn't actively working as an RT during the time of my work in the adult entertainment industry didn't matter one bit to them ... What they were upset about was the fact that I had worked in the adult entertainment industry while simultaneously holding a professional license. To make a long story short, this led to 'negotiations' with a state professional licensing board attorney, a renewal of my RT license for another 10 years ( or whatever ), a $500 fine ( in lieu of having to perform community service, since I was no longer living in that state at the time I applied for renewal ), and a letter being attached to my professional license file clearly pointing out to any potential employer my history of work in the adult entertainment industry.
Since I was not actively working as an RT at the time of my license renewal, I don't know for a fact that my being 'charged' with 'unprofessional conduct' would have been immediately communicated to a hospital or other current 'employer' ... but I assume that this would have been the case had I still been actively working as an RT.
Admittedly, not every US state may pay the same degree of attention regarding professional licenses. However, as more and more IRS regulations are put into effect that require strip clubs, webcam host sites etc. to make official reports of income to the IRS ... with this information becoming readily available to state and local gov't bodies including professional licensing boards, there is a higher and higher probability that a future ( in depth ) background check is going to turn up the fact that a licensed professional has worked in the adult entertainment industry. That fact will in turn be immediately available to current and future employers who check the status of that professional's state license. And as you probably know already, employers in certain professions involving the 'public trust' ... like teachers, health care professionals, legal professionals, etc. are VERY touchy about a history of work in the adult entertainment industry.
As to whether or not a current employer would 'fire' you if a history of adult entertainment industry work were to be revealed, all I can tell you is what happened to one of my co-workers ...
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I can't believe that as an RN making $30 an hour you are just getting by. I wish I was making $30 an hour with a day job. How about cutting down on your expenses? I have a day job and have been too tired too cam when I get home (also have two kids), I am lucky if I get on once a week. If I were you, I would look into phone sex. Less of a chance you will be found out and less work to get pretty and look good each night. Or if you decide to cam I do know I have seen other R.N.'s on MFC, you can always keep your profile private.
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Originally Posted by
hotcoaco
WOW!! How did they find out and did she use her real name or something? I work in the E.R so I work with all populations! I don't know what I should do now! I make 30 bucks an hour and it pays my bills just barely! That's why I was looking into camming, but I don't wanna screw myself ya know!
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How did they find out and did she use her real name or something?
Webcam hosts are now required to file 1099-misc official reports of income for any US camgirl who is paid more than $600 in a single year ... reports which list the camgirl's real name, real address, and SS# . The IRS in turn must share such info with 'Authorized' agencies such as state professional licensing boards, state family courts, etc. ( well that's true for the 40 odd states which have signed a federal / state information sharing agreement ).
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I agree with sweetsam...I live in an expensive state and have some pretty high rent/bills, but 30/hr (with enough hrs a week) would be enough to pay for my expenses. Phone sex/sex texting is your best bet, you can buy the rights to stock photos of a hot girl if you want, and then there won't be any pics of you online. I love camming but I don't think it's worth risking a 30/hr job (that you trained for!) over, especially in this economy. Plus it's so unpredictable and it's very easy to burn out on camming! Whatever you decide to do, think it over carefully and I wish you the best :)
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I have a question... how do these government agencies who revoke your license, or refuse to renew it etc know that the income came from an "adult entertainment" company? Or even so, that YOU were the one engaging in the camming part of it? For example I can't remember names off the top of my head, but I know most cam sites send out checks under a different name other than the website cam name, specefically for privacy reasons. AND even if an employer did find out through a background check that you were previously employed and being paid by an adult industry related business, how do they know that you were the one engaging in the "obscene/unethical behavior"? You could always argue that you did customer service or behind the scenes IT stuff because a friend recommended you, and since the economy is shit and the pay was good, yadda yadda, you took the job. Something of that nature?
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Does camming affect the accounting/finance department? Im studying accounting and have a year left in school and just decided to do camming for extra money because it seems like i cant get a job anywhere. Did i just ruin my chances of being a accountant? or since i haven't been on for a long time will it show on my background check
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how do these government agencies who revoke your license, or refuse to renew it etc know that the income came from an "adult entertainment" company? Or even so, that YOU were the one engaging in the camming part of it?
Just to be clear, the state professional licensing board did not revoke my license ... they couldn't because 'unprofessional conduct' is a far different thing from 'malpractice' ( i.e. making a professional screw-up that results in actual 'harm' of some sort ).
As I posted earlier, the state professional licensing board performs an 'in-depth' background check as part of their license issuance / renewal procedure. I have been told that this essentially involves an FBI level background search ... which includes checking IRS records linked to the persons name, address, and Social Security number. This will immediately return any 1099-misc income reports that were automatically filed by any 'payer' company. Every 'payer' company has a Federal ID number ... and a matching record which states the nature of the business they conduct. All of this shows up in the background check summary returned to the professional licensing board ( or family court, or potential straight job employer who chooses to pay for 'in depth' background checks ).
Granted that in the absence of professional license concerns or concerns about the job involving the 'public trust', and for the moment at least, most potential straight job employers don't choose to pay for an 'in depth' background check as part of their pre-employment screening process. But as the costs of performing in-depth background checks drops with improving technology, and the 'costs' involved to get rid of an 'unsuitable' employee rise as the result of higher unemployment insurance premiums, higher health care premiums, possible DOL wrongful dismissal lawsuits, possible damage to the employer's PR image etc. more and more straight job employers will conclude that investing in an in-depth pre-employment background check is a 'good investment'.
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Im studying accounting and have a year left in school and just decided to do camming for extra money because it seems like i cant get a job anywhere. Did i just ruin my chances of being a accountant?
It depends on whether or not the straight job accounting position you seek will involve the 'public trust' or a CPA professional license. Again, you cannot be denied a license even if your background check shows a history of work in the adult entertainment industry. However, that doesn' stop potential employers ... who will immediately see that adult entertainment history exists when they check on the status of your professional license ... from accidentally dropping your resume' into the waste basket.
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MaliaMonroe
Does camming affect the accounting/finance department? Im studying accounting and have a year left in school and just decided to do camming for extra money because it seems like i cant get a job anywhere. Did i just ruin my chances of being a accountant? or since i haven't been on for a long time will it show on my background check
No. Not in my case anyways, that's what I do and I have been camming 5 years now.
Also gone through background checks at each employer has not been an issue for me.
(on a side note I do accounts receivable, I am not a CPA)
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^^^ I suspect that you would now encounter a number of problems if you did go for your CPA license ! Your particular position in the accounting / finance field does not involve the 'public trust' i.e. dealing directly with 'other people's money', nor does it require a professional license.
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sweetsam
I can't believe that as an RN making $30 an hour you are just getting by. I wish I was making $30 an hour with a day job. How about cutting down on your expenses? I have a day job and have been too tired too cam when I get home (also have two kids), I am lucky if I get on once a week. If I were you, I would look into phone sex. Less of a chance you will be found out and less work to get pretty and look good each night. Or if you decide to cam I do know I have seen other R.N.'s on MFC, you can always keep your profile private.
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Melonie
Webcam hosts are now required to file 1099-misc official reports of income for any US camgirl who is paid more than $600 in a single year ... reports which list the camgirl's real name, real address, and SS# . The IRS in turn must share such info with 'Authorized' agencies such as state professional licensing boards, state family courts, etc. ( well that's true for the 40 odd states which have signed a federal / state information sharing agreement ).
Thanks ladies! I actually make like 32 bucks an hour, but I have a family of 6! I have 3 teen boys and those dudes eat like grown men! I also pay 1600 a month for my mortgage. So after they take taxes and like 300 bucks for medical,dental, and vision I take home around 1700 every 2 weeks! So one check is gone on rent and the other goes to bills on bills! That is why I was looking for a side job, but I don't want to screw up my regular job. Is there a thread about phone sex?
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sweetsam
I can't believe that as an RN making $30 an hour you are just getting by. I wish I was making $30 an hour with a day job. How about cutting down on your expenses? I have a day job and have been too tired too cam when I get home (also have two kids), I am lucky if I get on once a week. If I were you, I would look into phone sex. Less of a chance you will be found out and less work to get pretty and look good each night. Or if you decide to cam I do know I have seen other R.N.'s on MFC, you can always keep your profile private.
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Melonie
Webcam hosts are now required to file 1099-misc official reports of income for any US camgirl who is paid more than $600 in a single year ... reports which list the camgirl's real name, real address, and SS# . The IRS in turn must share such info with 'Authorized' agencies such as state professional licensing boards, state family courts, etc. ( well that's true for the 40 odd states which have signed a federal / state information sharing agreement ).
Thanks ladies! I actually make like 32 bucks an hour, but I have a family of 6! I have 3 teen boys and those dudes eat like grown men! I also pay 1600 a month for my mortgage. So after they take taxes and like 300 bucks for medical,dental, and vision I take home around 1700 every 2 weeks! So one check is gone on rent and the other goes to bills on bills! That is why I was looking for a side job, but I don't want to screw up my regular job. Is there a thread about phone sex? How much can you make doing that?
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Granted this happened in 1999, but it is still something to think about.
http://old.post-gazette.com/regionst...90810porn4.asp