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being on tv and webcamming - recipe for disaster?
I'm an aspiring actress and singer... and cam girl! i was really excited to just get a call from a production company to appear on tv. then i realised, is this is a really bad idea? it could get me to where i want to be in life as i cant cam forever..but will this also bring a big risk being on tv and working as a cam girl? i could get recognised on cam but what are the real risks to this? im not a big time cam girl, just one or two nights a week really and have a nice little following who im sure would be supportive!
i'd love to hear what you girls think
thanks!
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Re: being on tv and webcamming - recipe for disaster?
IMHO Stop camming. Like now-today. There are already videos and photos of you online somewhere and if you get a contract somewhere that has a morality clause you're in danger of losing it/being in breach of contract if/when someone finds your old camming videos. The fewer there are, the less chance someone will find them.
Or, you get on G4's Attack of the Show or something. 50 thousand rabid fanboys incessantly googling, "[your name] naked"? They'll find it sooner than later and it'll significantly effect your career.
Oh, or, if you get big and someone realizes that your'e the girl he had a cam show w/years ago? He's saved alll those videos on his hard drive because he just luuuuuves you...but now he's thinking that maybe he could sell them to TMZ or Access Hollywood and make a bundle. He don't love you so much as to think of how it would effect you if he gets handed a fat stack of cash.
If you want to be an actress, stop camming. Immediately.
If you want to make money online go into affiliate sales or tech support. If you want to make money in the sex industry go strip or do private sessions, something where it's unlikely you'll be recorded.
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Youve scared me a little, but thank you for doing so! Should i not take the tv thing? Im so worried now that everything might come out in the open if i take it..and i think im going to have to stop camming too. I suddenly feel like i wish id never started camming now :(
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Well.... I have to agree with Isobel.
However.... the practical side of me has to remind you to consider how many people ACTUALLY "make it" with acting/singing? Enough to make it their sole career? Not many..... like, at all. So, if camming is your income now, I wouldn't necessarily be so quick to quit if you are currently relying on it. The chances of you becoming a big time actress are, absolutely no offense intended, extremely tiny.
So, if you need the income and are relying on it, don't quit just yet. If you don't really need the income from camming, it would be best to quit and focus on something else.
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cammy
Youve scared me a little, but thank you for doing so! Should i not take the tv thing? Im so worried now that everything might come out in the open if i take it..and i think im going to have to stop camming too. I suddenly feel like i wish id never started camming now :(
Ehhhh.... in showbiz, is there really anything wrong with a little extra publicity? ;-)
It's not like you are applying to be a pediatric nurse in a Catholic orphanage..... *shrug*
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where 'mainstream' acting is concerned, with a couple of fairly unsuccessful exceptions, a history of adult industry work can easily translate into a 'kiss of death'. After all, Disney / Viacom, mainstream TV networks etc. do NOT want to have to deal with potential advertiser and/or viewer backlash.
The poster girl exception of course was Vanessa Williams. But then again the extent of her adult industry work was some nude 'glamour' photos, which isn't quite the same thing as an 'action' video with your favorite adult 'toy' suddenly showing up in the tabloids. Also ( and forgive me for bringing this up but it is relevant ), mainstream TV networks were very reluctant to expose themselves to potential charges of racism had they 'dropped the hammer' on Vanessa ... a situation which is far less likely today. Other actresses with adult industry history like Tracy Lords, Jenna Jamison and Sasha Grey were also allowed a small amount of 'mainstream' exposure ... but their 'mainstream' careers never really went anywhere.
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Thats the thing, i probably wont make it really. This show would be a one off and acting isnt a massive part of what i do im more of a singer. Just wondering what the likelihood is, of things being picked up by the press if one of my customers says something. Camming is my only income and i really need it. Its a big decision to make!
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Re: being on tv and webcamming - recipe for disaster?
I wouldn't quit camming yet then, if you need it.
Take the one TV job, it could make you some money. I don't think realistically anyone would "find out" anything about camming and if they do, I don't think it would end up all over the press. I mean, sure maybe if Selena Gomez was hiding in her room at night fingering herself on cam to Justin Bieber songs, sure. That would be all over the press. But the chances of someone finding out something about you and "leaking it" to anyone are pretty slim.
Also, I'm sure you are probably using separate stage names so the chances are even less if you are just trying to do some things here and there with your acting.
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Good luck with whatever you decide to do! :-) Keep us posted so we can all say 'we knew her when..." :-)
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If you do sexwork and you want to become a mainstream actress or singer, its just not going to happen because it will be used against you. In addition, those industries are all about contacts and who you know, and often times that means sluting your way to the top. (Same with mainstream modeling). Not always, but in general- especially since the recession where all entertainment venues have become more competitive with less work to go around.
The exception would be if you were a lowkey stripper who was NEVER photographed, and you used your money and beauty to build connections. Camming is amateur porn. You are a porn star. So unless you plan to do porn for major companies and then try to branch out your brand through contacts you've made in the industry after you're established for a few years, it just doesn't happen. Sasha Grey and a couple others are examples, but that is VERY rare, and she will probably forever get "dumb slut" roles or something. And she only got that successful by building & establishing contacts in LA outside of the porn world, but the only reason she was able to make those contacts is because those guys were fans of her porn. So you could attempt at that, but that would require trying to make yourself into a big porn name through doing lots of actual porn... and having a girl next door look + doing things differently to set yourself apart from all the porn competition so guys remember you versus someone else. It would also require lots of socializing and hardcore networking from the moment you enter the industry, but thats true with being successful in any industry.
So to answer the question, if you work in entertainment and you cam, you WILL be found out. It will be talked about all over forums, linking your entertainment name (which may or may not be your real name) with your cam name. People will probably leave comments about it. People will probably record your shows and post them as "proof" its you. People (especially bored mantrolls on the internet who are obsessed with porn) love drama. So expect that to happen. Is it an end-all? No, it could potentially get you more fans of your porn, but it will hurt you entertainment career most definitely.
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"I was researching a role"...seems to work for everyone else in Hollywood who gets outed in certain situations.
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Diablo Cody was a stripper and she won an Oscar she said it was research *eyeroll*. If you are successful you'll be found out, just try to spin it into a good story. Not every Hollywood starlet is sunshine and lollipops. Eve was also a stripper so an adult industry past doesn't mean death, but I would keep it tame if you keep camming. Maybe just dancing and teasing and topless. There is plenty of dirt in the industry nobody is a clean as they appear. So if camming is keeping your bills paid do what you have to do.
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BlondebombGA
"I was researching a role"...seems to work for everyone else in Hollywood who gets outed in certain situations.
But you would have to state what that role is if you used that defense, and if that role never existed or if you never got a role playing that character, then it would be obvious you were lying.
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Rina
Diablo Cody was a stripper and she won an Oscar she said it was research *eyeroll*. If you are successful you'll be found out, just try to spin it into a good story. Not every Hollywood starlet is sunshine and lollipops. Eve was also a stripper so an adult industry past doesn't mean death, but I would keep it tame if you keep camming. Maybe just dancing and teasing and topless. There is plenty of dirt in the industry nobody is a clean as they appear. So if camming is keeping your bills paid do what you have to do.
Diablo Cody isn't really in the limelight though. Shes behind the scenes. Shes a screenwriter and a blogger and a writer. Shes not selling her persona/looks/face, she's selling her writing, which is a huge difference. Shes an entrepreneur. Shes not there to supposedly set a good example like they deem hollywood stars or people whose face is in entertainment. Those companies are owned by or sponsored by conservative people who make all the decisions. They aren't going to keep someone on board who can deteriorate their name.
Stripping is completely different than camming bc there is no photographic or video evidence that can prove you did it. And those who have admitted to doing it don't do so until after they are successful bc they know it will hinder their success.
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If you want to keep camming, maybe change sites/username and don wigs/heavy makeup that makes you not really look like you, and try to keep your face mostly off cam a lot?? You'd have to build up new regulars if you did that, but it'd be the only way I'd try to continue camming while breaking into other, more mainstream areas of the entertainment business.
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Camming is amateur porn. You are a porn star.
For better or worse, where many mainstream businesses ... including mainstream entertainment businesses ... are concerned, this is exactly how camgirls are often viewed - as 'amateur' porn actresses. This status basically has all of the same negatives as being a 'professional' porn actress, with none of the positives !!!
And, unlike exotic dancers on a club stage who can deny-deny-deny without any hard 'evidence' to the contrary, camgirls are creating a video record of their 'porn performances'. Via willful video for link traffic trading of camgirl videos by webcam hosts, by piracy, via video capture by paying customers etc., your video 'evidence' of working as a camgirl will be around forever. Thus, once you start, there's no chance of denying that you have worked as a camgirl.
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Im buying a wig. Problem solved? I hope so!
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cammy
Im buying a wig. Problem solved? I hope so!
Problem almost solved. Check out the makeup tutorials by Tamang Phan on youtube. She transforms herself into various celebrities using only basic makeup and she does an amazing job making herself look like a totally different person.
Good luck!
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cammy
Im buying a wig. Problem solved? I hope so!
Do you have tattoos or any other identifying marks?
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Cameron Diaz
Sylvester Stalone
Jamie Foxworth
Gillian Anderson
David Duchovny
and some even say Marilyn Monroe did a hardcore porn movie... There's probably more to add to that list, but they somehow know how to hide their past. Oh, and back in the old days many of those top A-list actresses started out as escorts. There's actual proof that Marilyn was one. I say go for it. I'm not going to let this industry stop me from doing the things I want. You shouldn't either.
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Crustyz
Cameron Diaz
Sylvester Stalone
Jamie Foxworth
Gillian Anderson
David Duchovny
and some even say Marilyn Monroe did a hardcore porn movie... There's probably more to add to that list, but they somehow know how to hide their past. Oh, and back in the old days many of those top A-list actresses started out as escorts. There's actual proof that Marilyn was one. I say go for it. I'm not going to let this industry stop me from doing the things I want. You shouldn't either.
But that was pre-internet where something could not be archived and gone viral in a matter of seconds (which is what happens with camming). It was essentially the same as stripping back then. No proof. But these days there is proof. And didn't those women just pose for classy topless photos and not porny porn?
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SarahTime
Well.... I have to agree with Isobel.
However.... the practical side of me has to remind you to consider how many people ACTUALLY "make it" with acting/singing? Enough to make it their sole career? Not many..... like, at all. So, if camming is your income now, I wouldn't necessarily be so quick to quit if you are currently relying on it. The chances of you becoming a big time actress are, absolutely no offense intended, extremely tiny.
So, if you need the income and are relying on it, don't quit just yet. If you don't really need the income from camming, it would be best to quit and focus on something else.
LOL, this is exactly what I was thinking. I'm in a similar situation, although I don't want to be an actress/singer. I was thinking oh my god, what if I become famous and my cam videos are found online? Haha! I don't think it'll ever happen to me. Either, I'll never become famous or my cam videos won't generate a big fanbase anyways! lol
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Crustyz
Cameron Diaz
Sylvester Stalone
Jamie Foxworth
Gillian Anderson
David Duchovny
and some even say Marilyn Monroe did a hardcore porn movie... There's probably more to add to that list, but they somehow know how to hide their past. Oh, and back in the old days many of those top A-list actresses started out as escorts. There's actual proof that Marilyn was one. I say go for it. I'm not going to let this industry stop me from doing the things I want. You shouldn't either.
^^THIS x100! I remember reading some articles online a couple a months ago that stated a lot of "current" hollywood actresses are escorts to other celebs, overseas politicians, royals, and other elites. Pay close attention to the people who barely get work (or haven't worked in long stretches), yet you always see them glammed up with money, driving nice cars, wearing thousand dollar dresses, always at events, etc. But they don't have sufficient work (paychecks) to prove how they can afford their lifestyle! lol
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GlamourRouge
But that was pre-internet where something could not be archived and gone viral in a matter of seconds (which is what happens with camming). It was essentially the same as stripping back then. No proof. But these days there is proof. And didn't those women just pose for classy topless photos and not porny porn?
Some of it is softcore porn videos. Cameron Diaz was faking sex with some dude while topless. Gillian did a real porn movie. You can find any of these online. So it's not like there's no proof. I look at it basically the same as now. I mean, look at all the celebs that had sex tape leaks. They were around still famous long after the leaks, and sometimes it helped their publicity.
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toryburch
^^THIS x100! I remember reading some articles online a couple a months ago that stated a lot of "current" hollywood actresses are escorts to other celebs, overseas politicians, royals, and other elites. Pay close attention to the people who barely get work (or haven't worked in long stretches), yet you always see them glammed up with money, driving nice cars, wearing thousand dollar dresses, always at events, etc. But they don't have sufficient work (paychecks) to prove how they can afford their lifestyle! lol
Yeah, Room 23 rumored prostitution ring (does not surprise me), but escorting is like stripping: there is no proof (unless you count security cameras). Camming and porn, there is proof. And proof is used against you. When there's a million people competing for the same 1 position, they look for reasons to discount people. That's why so many mainstream models fuck their way to the top. Because its just so competitive that you need an edge.
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GlamourRouge
Yeah, Room 23 rumored prostitution ring (does not surprise me), but escorting is like stripping: there is no proof (unless you count security cameras). Camming and porn, there is proof. And proof is used against you. When there's a million people competing for the same 1 position, they look for reasons to discount people. That's why so many mainstream models fuck their way to the top. Because its just so competitive that you need an edge.
I totally agree. I read about room 23 stuff as well. Honestly, I would have picked stripping over camming. But I don't know how to dance and don't have the best body. So camming I go! :(