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Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
So, I just thought I'd post this because I'm super irked.
I've been having a rough time on Streamate so I lowered my prices to $1.99 a minute from $2.99 a minute. It was only changed for maybe 3 hours and my income was MUCH LESS than when I had my prices higher.
I have ONE regular. One. He comes in every day for a ten minute show.
Today I get a message "Last night was fun, but Saturday's prices were better ;D" from my regular.
We train our customers. I have now shown my ONLY regular that I may not be worth what he pays, due to paying less at another time. Even though he's done over 50 shows with me at my regular rate, that ONE show at a lower rate has now changed the tone of our relationship.
Do NOT LOWER YOUR PRICES IN DESPERATION. It will NOT help you and you may actually hinder you greatly.
Please see:
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...ates-Challenge!
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...-!!!!!!!!!!%29
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Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
Is it necessary to make ANOTHER thread about this? Isn't Stop Being Cheap where this should go? Seriously.
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Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
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Originally Posted by
LAChloe
Is it necessary to make ANOTHER thread about this? Isn't Stop Being Cheap where this should go? Seriously.
Seriously? In your opinion, yes. In my opinion, no. In general opinion, I do not hold the cards. If this tread is to be deleted because it is not helpful, I am okay with that. I personally think/thought the issues are different enough for a new thread. If you don't, I'm 100% okay with you not commenting. I would understand. :-)
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Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
Fridays started a thread about this exact same thing. It is very helpful and is very active. There is no reason to create another thread about the same exact issue dedicated to you. When people do this it makes the other useful threads buried.
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It'll prolly be merged to the stop being cheap thread, rather than deleted.
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Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
I dunno, LAChloe.... I kinda like this one too... lol!
The 'stop being cheap' thread is kinda.... "theory, 101", and this one is more "case study". LOL!
I think the more ways we get this message out, the better.
(Again... just one girl's stupid opinion. As always.) :-)
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I'm only annoyed because it is burying Missy's thread about the being naked in free chat/not getting paid thread which I think is really important and wish we could get more info on. :p
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i love you chloe but that thread is still on the first page...scrolling a little won't kill u bb :P <3
on topic...thanks for posting this. i have been desperate and frustrated lately, especially w/my placement dropping (not because of the encoder, because of time on cam/hourly earnings going down). and the fact that i look around and see other popular models i'm usually placed next to dropping their prices (i'm guessing out of desperation)...weakens the hell out of my resolve. so thanks for the kick in the ass :)
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a good friend of mine explained a lot to me recently about marketing and price elasticity. the dilemma for any business is that when you compete on price, someone will always come along and undercut you, you undercut them, they undercut you, you undercut them, next thing you know you're both broke! my friend has worked with businesses, who gained more business, more revenue, and, more importantly a better class of customer who were prepared to pay a premium for something that wasnt "run of the mill". all this applies to camming to i feel
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Yea I wish you could take the WAL Mart approach but you can't.. it's YOUR time and YOUR body you are selling.. not a bunch of cheap products.. and men don't think that way anyways.. but i wish it was so.. we could be billionaires.. like the waltons by being cheap!
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I vote that this thread stays on the island. It is personal and anecdotal. Would read again. A++++++
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I personally love the girls that price themselves lower than me. It is because of them that I get to price myself at such a high rate. They literally give me the illusion of having more value. When guys realize that I won't back down on my prices or beg them for their money --- they then think to themselves. "Huh, this girls must be something EXTRA special then that makes her worth the money."
Ha ha! I fooled them! Thank you cheaper priced girls! :D
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Update:
I just got this today:
Would you consider, since I'm a regular customer, of charging me $1.99 for pre-arranged shows? This is getting a bit expensive for me.:)
This is a regular who never ONCE talked about pricing. I am the one who brought pricing into his mind by LOWERING my prices ONE time for a few hours. BAD BAD BAD!
My only regular, dude. I have poisoned his brain!
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Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
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Originally Posted by
drearea
Update:
I just got this today:
Would you consider, since I'm a regular customer, of charging me $1.99 for pre-arranged shows? This is getting a bit expensive for me.:)
This is a regular who never ONCE talked about pricing. I am the one who brought pricing into his mind by LOWERING my prices ONE time for a few hours. BAD BAD BAD!
My only regular, dude. I have poisoned his brain!
I wouldn't do it. You will have more regulars soon!
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Originally Posted by
SarahTime
I wouldn't do it. You will have more regulars soon!
Definitely not doing it, I'm just so mad I created this situation!
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^^^ Thank you for having the balls to post about this, including the updates of the ensuing disaster!
I think so many girls do the 'desperation discount yard-sale', it bites them in the ass, and then they are embarrassed, so they don't tell anyone. Then the cycle repeats. Sighhhhh.
I agree with Sarah.. Don't do it. Continue to be sweet-as-pie to your dude without giving him special treatment, but work on getting new regs.
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Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
Tell him you were running a once a month special and if he'd like that price he can get it ONE day next month. ;)
And then tell him that you completely understand if he wants to wait till next month for the reduced rate.
He won't. ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
drearea
Update:
I just got this today:
Would you consider, since I'm a regular customer, of charging me $1.99 for pre-arranged shows? This is getting a bit expensive for me.:)
This is a regular who never ONCE talked about pricing. I am the one who brought pricing into his mind by LOWERING my prices ONE time for a few hours. BAD BAD BAD!
My only regular, dude. I have poisoned his brain!
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Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
however there is one caveat to what i wrote earlier. if you were putting on a show, perhaps harnessing the power of adultwork tv, for a big group of ppl, (JCI supports 500 concurrent users) then in that situation you may want to have a lower price per minute, not becuase you're cheap but because that lower price X 50, 100, 250..... = a LOT of money :-)
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Re: Do NOT Lower Your Prices in Desperation! (In conjunction with STOP BEING CHEAP)
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Originally Posted by
FloraBell
OMG, JustAnotherCamgirl, we were having the exact same thought at the same time!!!! Spooooooky!!!!
And what an intelligent thought it was!!!! :-) Great call.
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Originally Posted by
naughtybekie
however there is one caveat to what i wrote earlier. if you were putting on a show, perhaps harnessing the power of adultwork tv, for a big group of ppl, (JCI supports 500 concurrent users) then in that situation you may want to have a lower price per minute, not becuase you're cheap but because that lower price X 50, 100, 250..... = a LOT of money :-)
500 in group...now that's a goal to aim for!
Absolutely right...and keep your private charge high!
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Tell him to fuck off!!! I would have told him it was a monthly special blah, blah. You're considering doing it next month for a few hours as well, but aren't sure when it will be. Then when he doesn't see you one day. Damn he missed it, sorry!
I have on one very, very painfully slow night lowered my prices to 1.99 for 1 hour (I think I actually only lasted 45 minutes) before saying fuck it and putting my rates back where they were. Cause you know what? I didn't get any shows at that rate either. Well if they were going to get a show they were damn sure going to pay for it. Of course this was an insane drop in price from my then 6.99/4.99. My rates as they are right now are 9.99/4.99. Guys seriously bitch about the 9.99 all the time, I'm like Moron check Exclusive! And you know what there are guys who pay that 9.99.
Anyway, the only perks my regs get is me actually saying hi to them (other guys have to greet me first), they can ask what I'm wearing and I'll show them (everybody else pays for me to stand), and occasionally I will throw a special gold show for them at say $4 per minute instead of 4.99 (these are guys in the high 2's and into the 3's on SM ranking).
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Originally Posted by
FloraBell
OMG, JustAnotherCamgirl, we were having the exact same thought at the same time!!!! Spooooooky!!!!
Great minds think a like, pussycat. ;)
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Here is a personal story from my life that I thought you might enjoy, drearea.
Yesterday I had a regular come in with the beloved '3' by his name. (Not as snazzy as the coveted '4' or the happy-making as the elusive '5' but an impressive regular none-the-less.
I've been having trouble with this regular because he pulls the 'but I love you!' crap all the time. I greeted him in voice all sexy-like because I will only speak to regulars and he starts whining about how it is so unfair that he doesn't get to meet me. Sniffle! Whine! Cry!
Then he tries to take me private and I refused the private. He is completely confused and asked me why and I tell him he doesn't get a private with me if what I am offering him virtually isn't good enough. He was in shock and mumbled a few words at me before he left.
If there is anything I've learned in my short time being a camgirl, it is this; just because someone is renting my time, it doesn't mean they get to own me! My mental health comes first. And you know what, I made my goal for the night just fine WITHOUT his 'guilt money'. ;)
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You go girl! I've done that before too. Regular or not, if you're being a duchenozzle then I won't do a show with you.
/applause
.... Dammit. Now I want applesauce. DAMN YOU PREGNANCY CRAVINGS!!
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Ugh, I HATE that some guys think it's okay to try to undervalue us. I actually find it REALLY disprespectful, and I would tell him as much. On one of my profiles I've even stated: "Please do not ask me to get naked if you are not willing to contribute. I find it highly disrespectful when guys expect something for nothing, and if you can't respect that don't be surprised if I kick you out of my room." Same thing applies to guys who think they "deserve" to have you for cheap. I mean, really? $2.99/min is a REALLY low price to begin with, considering what you are doing for that amount, and not to mention that you don't even receive the full amount in your pocket. This guys just sounds like a total asshole. Oh, he doesn't think you're worth less than $3/min? Okay, on to the next one!!!!
I once had a reg last year who I started offering discounted skype shows to because he was so "good" to me. If we would have done a 10 minute show through the site it would have cost him $40, but generous little me only asked for $25 for skype. I figured it was a great deal for him, and I ended up keeping more money in my pocket anyway. Know what that scumbag had to nerve to say to me after a few skype shows? "I wish you would give me a discount, I really like you but it's hard to afford this since I'm still in college." I said as sweetly as I could that I AM giving him a discount, he's paying $1.50 less PER MINUTE, did he forget that? That was the last time I did a show with him. Not worth the aggravation, at all. I don't get on cam to undersell myself and try to convince guys why I'm worth a reasonable price.