Re: The STUDIO GIRLS get ALL the TRAFFIC!!!
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Originally Posted by
aven
The girls in the KBG studio have always been top cammers with high placement..... what noticed happen about around the time this post started was KBG made it know who all the their models are but place the studio in the profile.
I don't think the studio got better placement I just think they told us who their models are AND they have alot of good/top models working with them.
They deliberately recruit and target models who will do well so that they can get a chunk of that money.
The placement claim is complete bullshit.
I'm not with a studio. If the placement they claim they are getting for their models were true I would not be on the front page because they would have crowded me out.
Having good equipment, a stable fast connection and being online, building your fans gets you good placement. Giving a cut of your pay to a studio just gets you a smaller check.
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^Ha, that makes total sense actually :) I've been page 1 or 2 since I started & I always just figured there weren't enough studio models online to crowd me out, but I guess I just didn't think too much about it b/c I'm not with a studio.
Re: The STUDIO GIRLS get ALL the TRAFFIC!!!
that would be me, the independant and actually kinda famous girl, with 5 guys LOL.. yep, the owner of KGB says he gets traffic, and then SM denies it. Someone is lying. Either KGB to get girls or SM to avoid a strike. But YES it is obvious, that the girls have most if not all, at times, traffic. Instead of giving away another 10% earnings, we should help find ways to increase the traffic to our rooms. I am gonna try buying twiitter followers, NOT the deadbot ones ,but real ones targeted to start. Its $$ but maybe worth it?
Re: The STUDIO GIRLS get ALL the TRAFFIC!!!
"This explains why your placement moves throughout the day while you are online. Your placement is not actually changing. Instead, there are higher ranked girls logged in free chat at the same time as you.
The secret formula of offline placement/rank is determined basically by who consistently earns the most money, has the most followers, etc over a period of time. "
___ So that further says studio girls will always make more, if they are placed better, they get more guys, make more money, are always placed better, make more money.. You see the fault in this, right?
Re: The STUDIO GIRLS get ALL the TRAFFIC!!!
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Originally Posted by
cvarga
This is per Bode who runs Streamate: These are two different e-mails and he answers the questions/assumptions we make very clearly.
Every single performer on Streamate earns their placement from their video quality, sound, and customer ratings. If a room is popular it gets featured and will get more traffic organically. All this chatter about sold rooms doesn't even make sense. Users go to whatever rooms they like. If someone has 100+ people in their room, they are somehow very engaging since that is a very large amount of verified users to have in a room.
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Studios can be very valuable for many performers. They are also not useful for many. They aren't useful to people who learned things on their own, which is probably typical of many people on this forum.
When many girls get into the cam business they know nothing about it. They have an old shitty computer, horrible internet connection, no knowledge of how that works. When that girl gets on cam with nobody helping them, she falls on her face, no matter how beautiful she is or how engaging her personality is. Also, a HUGE amount of performers have a major problem with time management. They cant keep a schedule, and therefore will never be successful on cam.
Studio's fill that void to teach people how to do well on cam. Since they know what it takes to do well, they take the time to get the performers setup correctly to do well. They help get people started correctly. They provide a person to contact with computer upgrades, technical questions, questions on how to improve their performance on the site. It's not be coincidence that some studio performers have a lot of users in their room. They followed the advice of the studio, on exactly the best ways to interact with customers.
I keep a schedule, have top gear, very entertaining, and know about how to cam. I do great considering how little people are ever in my room. NONE of those faults apply to me, yet I have great placement USUALLY but little traffic. Not sure that advice works for traffic? You have to GET people in your room to KEEP them. If they aren't coming in, there's an external reason, I would think.?
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"So the true issue lies in: what do you do if you DON'T have top placement (or its dropping), but you work a lot, have decent or high prices, have the fastest internet, have an i7, offer everything, conduct yourself professionally, have a successful niche, have quality pictures, etc... yet you still don't have top placement like SM states you will have if you do that. That's the issue right? And isn't that the exact situation that the (*owner of Streamate*'s) PMs does not address?"
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have all the above and still no traffic. To be sure, what are prices having to do with it? I do 5+ and 7+ respectively, and gold shows.
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^Im not sure what exactly youre complaining/seeking advice about here. Is it your placement or your traffic? Because it seems like youre saying your placements not bad- its just your traffic is lacking correct?
If so then you should go back a page or two and read what Sarah wrote about guys being able to 'hover' over the profile pics and 'peek' into the rooms before entering from the home page. So you always have to be aware that someone could be watching you at anytime your connected and broadcasting and just debating whether or not to enter. If youre sitting there bored and alone and pissed off theyre not going to enter. If youre away from the computer waiting but watching they wont enter.
If you have tons of populated areas geoblocked (intentionally or unintentionally-check your settings or have model support double check if you think your traffic is oddly lacking, maybe theres a glitch) your traffic will be lacking.
You can boost traffic on your own by doing your own promo, theres tons of info in the forums on how to do self promo- search for it. make sure to use your cammodel link to get the extra referral $ for it.
Make sure your profile/display pic is good quality and your profile is accurate/free from spelling errors. Your prices are are competitive for what you offer etc.. Sometimes just a fresh pic every so often brings in traffic because guys see it and its like 'heys thats new, whos that' and theyll look. Rather then passing over the same blonde in the blue top in the third row they already wrote off because the last time they checked she wasnt there/looked bored/prices were too high/etc
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yep just traffic, placement good. I do all the above except my own traffic marketing, even if a guy hovers I am usually doing something other than sitting there. Thanks much< I am new here and will look at those threads ;o)
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It also takes time to build regulars. Im not sure how long you have been on SM, but if you stick to a consistent schedule you will develop them. After a while youll start to have a decent sized room on a daily basis.
Also affiliates drive most of the traffic to the site. If you have geoblocking enabled in any capacity you will not be included in promotions. This means they will not be driving traffic specifically to your room and you will be relying on customers already on the site selecting you from the homepage. If you dont have geoblocking on, then the more you work, and the more gold shows you do, the more likely it is an affiliate will pick them up and 'pimp' you out- driving traffic specifically to you.
To be 'chosen' by an affiliate youd pretty much do the exact opposite of everything posted in the how not to be recorded and posted on tube site threads. Dont play copyrighted music. Dont say user names. Keep your shows 'generic'. Show your face. Dont have brand name items on cam, like pepsi cans or band posters behind you.
Re: The STUDIO GIRLS get ALL the TRAFFIC!!!
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Originally Posted by
annabellz
It also takes time to build regulars. Im not sure how long you have been on SM, but if you stick to a consistent schedule you will develop them. After a while youll start to have a decent sized room on a daily basis.
Also affiliates drive most of the traffic to the site. If you have geoblocking enabled in any capacity you will not be included in promotions. This means they will not be driving traffic specifically to your room and you will be relying on customers already on the site selecting you from the homepage. If you dont have geoblocking on, then the more you work, and the more gold shows you do, the more likely it is an affiliate will pick them up and 'pimp' you out- driving traffic specifically to you.
To be 'chosen' by an affiliate youd pretty much do the exact opposite of everything posted in the how not to be recorded and posted on tube site threads. Dont play copyrighted music. Dont say user names. Keep your shows 'generic'. Show your face. Dont have brand name items on cam, like pepsi cans or band posters behind you.
Ok I had regulars, lots of them, but I killed them off with doing gold shows to TRY to compete with the other girls, and now I am rebuilding them. I am doing less and less per week, eventually only one a day ( i have a site and thats a perk). I am consistent on my schedule, for the last year + without fail.
I am not geoblocked unless they have that somewhere, but on my admin panel it is OFF. As far as gold shows, I was up to 5 a day (per 8 hr period) and it made no difference to traffic, just my experience. I wonder how to get to be on that list. Per SM I already am.. but ??
AHH ok maybe you have a point htere, I will try the last thing. I usually have music..so boring without ;o)
Re: The STUDIO GIRLS get ALL the TRAFFIC!!!
Re: The STUDIO GIRLS get ALL the TRAFFIC!!!
How can you tell what studio a model is in?
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Originally Posted by
SweetPinkCupcake
Ok! Correction!
It isn't the PLACEMENT that is the issue. My placement is FINE. It ALWAYS has been awesome.
It's the TRAFFIC. A huge surplus of traffic is going to KGB and other big named studios instead of us independent 5 star rating good placement girls who are right next to the KGB studio girls. 7 girls in one popular independent models room today, while there was 117 in a studio girls room. They were RIGHT next to each other, by the way.
This wasn't an issue about placement. It was my theory/complaint.
Re: The STUDIO GIRLS get ALL the TRAFFIC!!!
Snowy0Star I noticed on sm that some of the models will say what studio they are from in their profiles.
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Keep in mind you can have 100+ people in your room and not a single paying customer. Granted IMO it is a lot easier to sell to room of 100 then it is to a room of 3, as there is more potential for an actual paying customer.
My upload speed isn't very fast compared to my download. In fact it is sort of slow, averaging around 1.8 mbps up (meanwhile its 140 mbps down). Its the best I can do for this area :(. However I have an excellent computer (i7 imac desktop with 16 gig ram), awesome camera (I use either a camcorder or my Sony Evi), and I interact with the customers in my room.
I also heavily promote cammodels. I make around $50-150 a week just through that, if not more. I am not going to tell you all the spots I promote, but some have been mentioned here.
BTW I have seen KGB girls working bottom of page 1 and even page 2 with like 5 people in their room.