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Is anyone here seriously worried about SM long-term?
I know there have been numerous posts lately about how horribly slow SM is for everyone lately.
Usually, I use this site for new info/tips instead of support, but dammit I'm panicking SO hard right now. Please indulge in my rant for a moment. I've been working for a few months, and sometimes it seems like there are more things keeping me from camming than encouraging me. I'm a single mom and my son's almost two, so I can only cam for a few hours a day. That's my biggest burden. I wish that I could afford daycare, but with the way SM's going, rent's not even looking too good right now. The last night I made anything over $50 was two Wednesdays ago.
Yeah, I'm panicking. For the past few weeks, I've just barely made payout. I have goddamn diapers to buy. And my son's clothes are getting smaller. Dammit, I'm downright angry >:(
The only financial keeping me afloat right now is the occasional child support payment and making clips on Clips4Sale. I also have a Clips4Sale regular who inspired me to write a blog, so that keeps me busy. I have a low-rated MFC profile, and I've tried other cam sites, but SM has always worked well for me. Up until now >:(>:(
I'm sure many of you girls are going through something similar. Thursday night and still haven't made payout. Freaking out a little.
I know there's been a lot of speculation on the various causes of this massive drop in traffic. My question goes out to all of the seasoned, experienced cammodels--what do you feel in your gut? Is this going to last past the end of summer like I fear? Have you seen this before, and is jumping ship an option I ought to consider?
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To answer the question posed in your title, some people may be worried, but nobody has a crystal ball to accurately predict what the coming months (years) will bring. To be honest, though...this isn't the question you should really be asking. What you need to consider is whether sm is or will be right for YOU. Knowing that $$$$ potential is there won't help if you're still struggling. Results in camming are intensely personal, based upon our unique talents and circumstances. The great part about that is camming can be anything you need it to.
Starting with an outline of your circumstances....you only have a brief window within which to cam every day due to having a child, so maximizing passive income is vital. It's great that you have a c4s studio, so focus on ways to promote it, including regular updating that will increase your earnings there. Unless your blog is bringing new traffic TOWARDS your c4s where you can monetize it, put it on the back burner and sell diary v-logs. If your regular wants to read about your life he can buy your clip 'diaries'. Blogging is awesome, but you're in a financial crisis right now...you gotta focus on what will bring you $$$$ this week. 'Keeping busy' doesn't pay the bills.
In terms of camming, think about whether split-camming would be an option. I know the sm encoder is a bitch, rendering split-camming there an unpalatable option for many, but if you're barely scraping by on sm what's the point of being there? MFC and sm are not the be all and end all of camming. Research smaller sites, sign up and maximize your exposure to the customer bases they offer. Honestly if sm is this bad for you right now, split cam WITH sm if it makes you feel a bit more comfortable and allows you to stay in touch with your regs there.
Nothing, NOTHING in camming ever stays the same. This is a young industry and sites and conditions are in a continual state of flux. You've barely started camming (a few months isn't long enough to get a sense of what your $$$$ expectations can reasonably be) so please don't get stuck in a rut of "I did this last month so this is camming and I have to make it work". That's not the business. People who thrive are able to roll with that, thinking up ways to make camming fit OUR unique needs and circumstances.
There's never any guarantee that any given strategy will work, but it's better than sitting online making far less than you need, feeling powerless about circumstances beyond your control. You can't control sm, but you CAN control how you cam and think up new strategies to increase your earnings. I truly hope this post isn't coming across as harsh, because I'm sincerely not trying to kick you while you're down. I know alot of people who use sm are experiencing mad issues there, both in terms of traffic quality and technical issues. All I'm saying is that you need to focus on YOU. Think, strategize and have the courage to try something new if what you're doing isn't working for you anymore.
Wishing you peace and tons of $$$$$$$$$$$$
good luck MoonJade
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what loveshooks said.
especially, if you can, splitcam or work other sites. i finally sorted out the emergency financial issues i was having this weekend so i'm hoping to go back to cams or try another site next week because sm is sucking right now.
doesn't mean sm will suck forever...i'm not desperately worried they're going under or anything. but it's good to have a backup plan when days there are so slow you can't pay your bills. and yes, this isn't the first reallllly creepy crawly slow period on sm.
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Am I worried about SM long term? YES. Yes, I am.
I've been camming on there for over two years, but it had been pretty much on and off up until last autumn so maybe I don't have the long-term perspective that other more seasoned models do. Even so. I had never before had $0 shifts on SM until recently, and I don't think it's me because even though I still have my "slow summer" shifts every now and then elsewhere, overall I'm doing just fine on other sites right now. I really do think it's SM. Then again, I also only work two other sites so perhaps my perspective isn't as broad as it could be.
I don't have an i7, and I cannot use the encoder because my cpu shoots up to 100% when I attempt to, even though I've used it successfully in the past before the most recent round of updates a couple of months ago. In all fairness I cannot justify upgrading my hardware right now because: 1. I'm barely earning enough on SM to meet my basic bills, I certainly don't have a surplus of money floating around. 2. It's not a guarantee that upgrading my computer will bring me a huge influx of money to justify the expense, and since my other sites don't require an i7 it seems silly to shell out that kind of money without any "proof" that it will have a drastic and positive effect on my SM earnings. So I find myself unable/unwilling to comply with their hardware recommendations, which means my placement and traffic is doomed to get lower and lower until I'm eventually pushed off the site, right? [just like Melonie predicted several months ago, btw]
I remember working on SM two summers ago broadcasting in the lowest quality possible because I had a POS laptop and cam, and I still did okay. Not nearly as good as I was doing a couple of months ago, but I still had pretty decent traffic. I wasn't converting as many shows as I should have because *I* was still relatively new and hadn't gotten my hustle up to where it is now. I take full responsibility for my shortcomings back then. Now that I've been modeling as my sole income for the past two years I KNOW I know what I'm doing, I am confident in my abilty to convert guys into paying custies. I do it on other sites on a regular basis. The problem is, on SM I'm barely getting any viewers! I posted in another thread that this morning I spent almost five minutes in free chat before even ONE guy entered my room. It's absolutely absurd and unheard of for me, even just recently I never had to wait longer than 30 seconds before guys would start popping in to my free chat. How can I turn a guys into paying custies when I am literally given no guys?! I'm not a miracle worker, here.
Even with my explanation about my lack of an i7/encoder usage, that really doesn't fully explain why it's been so God awful slow lately. I'm still on the first page (bottom, mind you, whereas just a couple of months ago I was 3rd-5th row) during my morning shift, and also in the first row of my primary category as well (ebony). I don't consider myself a top model by any means (I actually think the idea of that is quite laughable!) but I wonder, if I'm doing so poorly with this acceptable placement, how are the other hundreds of models doing? You would *think* girls on the first couple of pages at least would be making a decent income, or at least have moderate traffic, but almost every girl I have spoken with recently has claimed otherwise.
R.I.P Streamate? Maybe. All I know is, I'm on the hunt for yet another site to cam on. I've always hesitated leaving SM because they were my first site and I feel a sense of loyalty towards them, sometime I'd even fantasize about leaving and plan for it but I've never had the heart to follow through. Now it's not about the heart, it's about the bank account. I've had way too many days on there recently where my hourly has been less than minimum wage. That is simply NOT acceptable in this line of work.
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Thank you for the pep talk! You're right about me needing to see the reality of things. I think I may be afraid to go elsewhere, because of the possible risk of me wasting my time on a different site for nothing. But I'll try, and I'll have to keep trying. Thanks again.
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*sigh*
you ladies make it seem like the world is ending. we go through this every summer. this is normal.
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There are a lot of other websites out there. I know this is easier said than done but you gotta put yourself in the mindset that everything is okay. You go on cam with out that panicked mindset and things will be okay. Idk I'm not the best at explaining things...but going into a panic never helps things in general with life imo
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JoJoX
*sigh*
you ladies make it seem like the world is ending. we go through this every summer. this is normal.
I agree that summers are slower for a lot of girls, but for the reasons I've stated in my above post, I really don't think that what's happening on SM right now is normal. Between this whole encoder fiasco and SM getting lower quality traffic/the whole Manwin thing, the SM of today is a completely different beast compared to the SM of last summer, and even the summer before that. That's as far back as I can go :)
Like I said, I have had slow days on other sites recently and it's not a huge deal because I know these fluctuations are normal, but the OP asked what's in my gut, and my gut is telling me to make SM nothing more than a back-up site that I don't need to rely on at all, as fast as I can!
Jojo, how long have you been on SM? I am not trying to be snraky At All (I absolutely adore your posts and have nothing but respect for you, my dear). I only ask because maybe having a SM veteran tell me I'm an overreacting conspiracy theorist will make less cynical about the future of Streamate. I want to believe in that site, I do.
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JOJO is more of an MFC girl but she is right all sites across the board gets slow... Its summer hell I even work less in the summer. Fuck its nice outside!!!
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I think everyone should have a back-up plan that is stable. I'm going to complete a program for a field that's in demand/pays well because I really, really don't want to have to rely on camming. So yes, I think we should all be worried and have some kind of exit strategy.
This might ruffle some feathers, but I think every sex worker should have other skills and a back up plan so that this type of work remains a choice, and not something you have to rely on because you have no other options.
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While I haven't cammed long enough to go through a summer period before, I think there's a huge difference between a slow period for a business and the sudden drop off in footfall that I've had since the site updates went through. Traffic was slowly dropping over the last few weeks but I think the extra glitches on the site since the updates have made an extra big impact on the natural slow summer. Even discounting the problems on our end, I've had a highly increased number of guys saying they can't see me when they go private. Is SM dying on it's arse? Depends on so many factors. We have no idea if the girls with major traffic are making enough to make up for the rest of us. But if they fixed their tech issues it would go a long way to making sure it didn't.
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I have to agree that Streamate is a different beast than it was a few years ago. I started in the summer of '09 so I've seen a few different seasons. I think the tone is different and it's a whole new breed of site in a way.
With that said, no, I don't "worry" about the site per say, but I do worry about MY ABILITY to work the site.
I'm looking for a backup plan but it's still a decent place to work, but I do understand the frustrations.
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I've been on Streamate now for just over 2 years and with what I'm seeing lately, indeed, I'm worried. I have expressed concerns over reduced traffic, showing great interest in improving my level of customer commitment. Having been in the industry for over 15 years, and seeing that there is much competition on the site, I have repeatedly adapted my techniques, and developed a more customer focused attitude. I have done everything possible to retain customers and run my room in a way that ensures a better customer experience in my sessions. Sometimes, the harder you work for a site, the more it seems those efforts work against you. If they recognized the effort we put in and provided us with the proper tools to run our own business, contact customers, provided us with the features necessary to fulfill our full potential, there would be no need for games, to treat us unfairly. They are stifling us and choking our very ability to thrive by keeping us so at bay with things like not allowing us to tell members we're on Twitter (which is one of the world's BEST marketing platforms). We have no way of contacting members, except one-by-one via e-mail on Streamate and we need to have the member e-mail us first or we can't contact them. It's ridiculous how we're so stifled. If that Streanate ship in sinking, it's easy to see why. I hope not, but hell, it's not looking great these days. And it's not getting better, like you'd expect it to. In fact, the decline is gradual but constant. I've seen them, in the last 6 months, tweet about needing a programmer. Again, in the last month they tweeted that. Are they just running on empty now and why the hell haven't they hired a programmer? Maybe then all this necessary shit can be done and we can finally get around to making some serious money and running this like a business again. There was a time that this was 'our business'. It looks like a giant pimpring right now. Way to evolve, fuck!
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Charlotteslut
I think every sex worker should have other skills and a back up plan so that this type of work remains a choice, and not something you have to rely on because you have no other options.
Agreed!
I first started camming part time to supplement the full time job I had with a multi-million dollar international health and wellness company. I have a Bachelor's degree, I've worked on Wall Street; I've had marvelous vanilla jobs. However, I also have a butt-ton of tattoos, I am not bilingual (which is pretty much a necessity if you want to land a job where I live, just 60 miles north of the US-Mexico border), and frankly, I am quite spoiled by being my own boss. Since I've moved to the Southwest my options for emplyment are much more limited than they used to be on the East Coast but it doesn't bother me, as I can't see myself choosing some form of outside employment over camming. I love camming and I love the options and flexibility it has given me. Some girls see it as their full time career until they retire off of their cam earnings, other girls see it as a means to an end. I honestly don't know where I fall on that spectrum. For the girls whose choice *is* camming as a career until they retire, I see no shame in their game and I will most likely end up in that situation myself. Not because I am "stuck", but because camming really is an amazing experience and I truly enjoy it. I do have choices. My choices are limited since I've left the Big Apple, but camming is still very much a choice for me.
I wholeheartedly agree that if you choose to cam as your primary means of income, you should NEVER limit yourself to earning on just one site. Like Charlotte said, when it becomes a chore (/obligation) rather than a choice you are kind of setting yourself up for failure. I do believe that camming in and of sitself will be a viable source of making a great living for many, many years to come. As far as camming on SM exculsive? Well, that is an entirely different matter. Diversify, ladies :)
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The only thing that scares me, is if Streamate actually dies. Either that, or the traffic greatly drops for everyone, making it hard for every camgirl to make money.
Doomsday threads with titles like these instinctively scare the shiz out of me because I worry that something has actually HAPPENED to the site which has made it impossible for EVERYONE. I love Streamate with the passion of a thousand 'gazms, and despite the annoying-as-fuck issues I've been having with SM and it's encoder, recently (past few weeks especially) I've been consistently making $90 - $100+ an hour. While I can't work long hours because I'm not that physically fit, I can still work a few hours and make $300 a night. I'm not saying this to idly brag, I'm saying it to show you that money is still there to be made. It needs to be said when so many girls are so lacking so much motivation.
For as long as I am making this kind of money, I can't be worried, and for the health of my business, I can't afford to spend time worrying either.
I've also spent money myself on camshows, gold shows, and tipping other girls who I enjoy or who I just think are cool. In the process though I've stumbled across a lot of girls whose body language, facial expressions, etc, (not to mention what they actually SAY) give off huge vibes of defeat, boredom, impatience and anger. But they don't seem to realise that by openly displaying this, if anything will make them MUCH LESS money... (That is, unless they decide to capital in on that attitude and become a dom!) Lol, also while perving, I did NOT want to just dealing out random unsolicited advice in free chat, but my god I was screaming behind my laptop. Seriously. (Oh, and btw no I didn't just sit there without doing shit. I was always at least an active tipper goddayam!)
Best thing to do in in a tough situation, or really, any situation in which you're making less, would be to log off, and possibly do what I'm about to suggest...
To be a little blunt, but with the best intentions, I feel that we could be a lot more use to one another where help is concerned, if we invested a little trust in another enough, enough for things like this to be frequent:
Girl 1: I'm doing bad lately.
Girl 2: PM me your stream.
[constructive crit is given]
Voila.
By constructive crit, I mean more than just "your stream isn't lagging / freezing for me", I mean in-depth. I don't mean rip into anybody, the whole point of this is a compassionate effort to help a girl make more money. It might take some guts to open yourself up a little, but it could quite literally pay-off in $$$.
I'll put myself out there as someone who'd be willing to help anyone out if they want some pepping up or any cam-help at all. <3 For all, chances are you look gorgeous when you smile. :P
But yeah, I'm doing great and I plan on keeping it this way for as long as I can. Keep the positivity.
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Lusty Laken
We were all told by the guy who runs SM to run gold shows often and to not geo-restrict, to bring better traffic to our rooms.
What in the.... Thy Will Be Done, becuse this sure as hell is NOT my will!!!!!
I kind of hate gold shows. I used to do okay with them, now I suck when it comes to countdowns. I don't believe in them anymore; I haven't for some time now. Not only do I fear that SM's technical issues will disconnect me 30 seconds before the completion of the gold show, thus essentially forcing me to give an (almost) complete show for free... But.... but....
If I have individual guys who are more than happy to spend $5/min on long private shows, how is encouraging $1/min or less Gold shows going to improve my bottom line? Or the site's bottom line? Maybe if they had mega traffic it could work financially because you'd be doing shows in bulk and there comes a threshold where quantity vs. quality could actually be profitable (forget the message you're sending that it's okay for customers to expect uber-cheap live cam shows). I don't see SM reaching that threshold.
My usual traffic in classic chat is less than 10 guys. Always has been. When I switch to party chat and start a gold show countdown I get close to twenty guys in my free chat, maybe. I was sill More Than paying my bills on that traffic alone, because my conversion rates were so high. Guys came expecting to spend a fair amount, not these gold show butt-sex-without-lube-this-is-painfully-awkward cheap amounts.
Yeah, traffic is slow. It's okay when even a couple of those guys are high-paying customers who are willing to pay for an individualized experience, they can be converted into loyal repeat customers. But when the entire site is moving towards quantity versus quality? And they don't even have the quantity to support that business plan? I rest my case.
We all know that whales have a certain shelf life. I've seen my SM whales moving on to other things over the past few months, but the site is doing nothing to attract a similar caliber of paying customer. The cheap traffic CANNOT replace the high quality traffic the site used to enjoy. SM's newest business model works *in theory*, but without every variable being just so it really isn't sustainable, as a lot of us are seeing.
I used to love SM so much. Still do, that whole "first cam site" thing in my heart. But any site that is pushing towards giving cheaper shows to less traffic is NOT viable, in my opinion.
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moonjade6
I know there have been numerous posts lately about how horribly slow SM is for everyone lately.
Usually, I use this site for new info/tips instead of support, but dammit I'm panicking SO hard right now. Please indulge in my rant for a moment. I've been working for a few months, and sometimes it seems like there are more things keeping me from camming than encouraging me. I'm a single mom and my son's almost two, so I can only cam for a few hours a day. That's my biggest burden. I wish that I could afford daycare, but with the way SM's going, rent's not even looking too good right now. The last night I made anything over $50 was two Wednesdays ago.
Yeah, I'm panicking. For the past few weeks, I've just barely made payout. I have goddamn diapers to buy. And my son's clothes are getting smaller. Dammit, I'm downright angry >:(
The only financial keeping me afloat right now is the occasional child support payment and making clips on Clips4Sale. I also have a Clips4Sale regular who inspired me to write a blog, so that keeps me busy. I have a low-rated MFC profile, and I've tried other cam sites, but SM has always worked well for me. Up until now >:(>:(
I'm sure many of you girls are going through something similar. Thursday night and still haven't made payout. Freaking out a little.
I know there's been a lot of speculation on the various causes of this massive drop in traffic. My question goes out to all of the seasoned, experienced cammodels--what do you feel in your gut? Is this going to last past the end of summer like I fear? Have you seen this before, and is jumping ship an option I ought to consider?
I'm not worried about SM at all. My average hourly rate is going up, my income is increasing, I have zero complaints. The bottom line is that camming is not for everyone. I don't know how the rumor got started that everyone and anyone can "make it" camming, but the reality is that no, not everyone can. I'm not trying to be discouraging but that is just how it is.
I would like to suggest though, there are state programs you can participate in to get child care taken care of while you work, and honestly if you are not even making $50 when you are online, you should consider something else because it doesn't sound like camming is working.
Also, if you insist on camming try camming while your son is in bed at night. I also have an almost two year old as well as twin 5 year olds, and I do all my camming at night after they are in bed.
Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do!
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I think something we need to remember is that Streamate is not the same as the camming industry. A lot of the time we act like SM is the only place to make money but there will always be other places where we can earn our bucks. No matter whether money is being spent on SM or not, the overall amount of money in the camming industry is going to remain fairly stable. If SM did start dying, we would spread out around other camsites until some of us found one that worked. Word of mouth would spread and eventually we'd have a new site that we'd consider the #1 camsite to work on. Who knows, maybe in a couple of years we'll all be touting LiveJasmin as the place to be o.O
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Ignore this post, I got problem resolved. lol
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Incantatious, I loved your post. Thank you! My comments are interspersed and below.. I made them purple for visibility.
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Incantatious
.....I've also spent money myself on camshows, gold shows, and tipping other girls who I enjoy or who I just think are cool. In the process though I've stumbled across a lot of girls whose body language, facial expressions, etc, (not to mention what they actually SAY) give off huge vibes of defeat, boredom, impatience and anger. But they don't seem to realise that by openly displaying this, if anything will make them MUCH LESS money... ----I've noticed this too, and it is STAGGERING, isn't it? Like... wow!!! (That is, unless they decide to capital in on that attitude and become a dom!) Lol, also while perving, I did NOT want to just dealing out random unsolicited advice in free chat, but my god I was screaming behind my laptop. YESSSSS!!!! Seriously. (Oh, and btw no I didn't just sit there without doing shit. I was always at least an active tipper goddayam!)
Best thing to do in in a tough situation, or really, any situation in which you're making less, would be to log off, and possibly do what I'm about to suggest...
To be a little blunt, but with the best intentions, I feel that we could be a lot more use to one another where help is concerned, if we invested a little trust in another enough, enough for things like this to be frequent:
Girl 1: I'm doing bad lately.
Girl 2: PM me your stream.
[constructive crit is given]
Voila.
I have tried to do this several times, and I find that people are really not that receptive to criticism or suggestions, no matter how you word them. We are set in our ways to some degree. I posted in CC months and months ago that I would love to help anyone and PM me and blah blah, and I honestly don't think the results have been that great (except for ONE particular go-getter, who is taking my advice, being proactive on other shit, and is generally working her ass off to improve --you know who you are, babe... IM me!) :-) For some reason, we are all resistant to change, and I am sure I am not that different, so with that in mind.....
By constructive crit, I mean more than just "your stream isn't lagging / freezing for me", I mean in-depth. I don't mean rip into anybody, the whole point of this is a compassionate effort to help a girl make more money. It might take some guts to open yourself up a little, but it could quite literally pay-off in $$$.
I'll put myself out there as someone who'd be willing to help anyone out if they want some pepping up or any cam-help at all. <3 For all, chances are you look gorgeous when you smile. :P
But yeah, I'm doing great and I plan on keeping it this way for as long as I can. Keep the positivity.
... I would absolutely LOVE to take you up on your offer, and have you critique me. I think a fresh perspective is always good... I am CONSTANTLY trying to learn and improve. I will PM you my details. Just don't tell me when you are perving on me, ok? :-) lol. I think that sometimes, it's the girls who already THINK they are doing everything right, who could most benefit from a fresh perspective.
Thanks in advance! :-)
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Jessica1001
Incantatious, I loved your post. Thank you! My comments are interspersed and below.. I made them purple for visibility.
... I would absolutely LOVE to take you up on your offer, and have you critique me. I think a fresh perspective is always good... I am CONSTANTLY trying to learn and improve. I will PM you my details. Just don't tell me when you are perving on me, ok? :-) lol. I think that sometimes, it's the girls who already THINK they are doing everything right, who could most benefit from a fresh perspective.
Thanks in advance! :-)
Come critique me too, you hussies. lol ;)
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Yes I am worried, I wanted to starts a thread about it, then I didn't bc most of people here don't like rants and complaints about low traffic ect (maybe b/c it discourage them )
Anyway I am looking for a good and reliable website b/c my earnings decreased a lot on sm even that I am using the damn i7+ 2Mb upload + 5 stars.
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SarahTime
Come critique me too, you hussies. lol ;)
I've been wanting to critique you forever, but I can't do it via email or pm, because I have so much to say that it'll take too long. IM or phone, bb.
You clearly have a lotttttttt to improve on... this is going to take us a while, Sarah.
:-P
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On the subject of "cam critique", that works.
I had a girl do it for me. She told me my stream was shitty, and so was my unappealing wall. LOL
At first it pissed me off but then I turned the cam to my bed, added some deco, upgraded my internet speed, changed my moody attitude and walla! More money.
Take the critique ladys. its here to help , not harm. You will NOT hear what you wanna hear.