Making money whilst competing with OTC/touching/extra services to clients
So I've been doing better lately, been a bit more confident and generally taking less shit from customers, which has helped my wellbeing a lot. I've also taken everyone's tips on approach avoidance into account, and, whilst I am nowhere near the earnings level I would like to be at, I have had a couple of great weeks, with big tips, long shows, and generally averaging better money overall.
What I am wondering, is everyone's opinions on OTC/touching and earning good money as a dancer. There are some girls who talk a lot more openly these days about what they do with customers, from touching, to dinner dates, girl on girl (of the more hardcore type) and other (albeit generally non-sexual) concessions they give regular customers. It would seem the top earners who book long shows, are in good with the owners, and generally make the best money, resulting in them getting the best "tip off's" when it comes to good spenders, all allow contact, hugging, lap dancing, boob massages, etc, or have a connection via drugs, particularly being partial to cocaine.
I watched a new dancer all over a buck from a bucks night the other night, not 2mins after hearing one of the girls I double with explaining he could not touch her, within minutes he was racing off to book a show as fast as he could with the new girl. No idea what happened, either all her rubbing made him horny and irrational, or she offered something extra... As I've said in past, I abhor being touched by strangers, and I will not let a customer feel me up/touch me on he hip/back/arm/butt/anything just to get a dance. I have one reg I allow to hold my hand as we walk to book in our dance, but as soon as the curtain closes, the hand holding ends. This is mainly as he is lonely and likes the GFE more than anything else.
Unlike customers at good quality brothels, strip club customers are not required to wash before engaging in contact, and from what the guards tell us, custy's also rarely wash their hands after using the bathrooms, so they are actually dirtier and more germ-prone than someone who is going to a brothel and about to engage in sexual services. All of that to me just makes me wonder why in the hell these girls are willing to be touched all over by customers, when they could work as an escort for more money, and engage with clean men who have just washed and been inspected thoroughly for disease.
Even the classier girls admit to having dinner with regulars from time to time.
I just think:
a) I am so busy why would I waste my time with a customer when I could spend it with people I care about
b) No amount of money is worth my sanity in allowing anyone to touch me
c) The fact that touching is advertised as "not allowed", and then, technically is allowed, makes all of our jobs more difficult and cuts our money.
Finally, dinner with clients. As innocent as this may be, and as big a earnings booster as I see it being, is it really worth it? It seems unsafe, and to give the wrong message, like a "date".
Wondering what everyone's opinions are, I guess I have been naive in not considering these girls are giving more services than I am to get the $ and spenders that they are, and have been a bit enlightened of late with some girls being more open about things they have done and money/shows they have gotten, and how they have done so, and also learning of payoff's to management, and other employees to get the best treatment as a dancer. I tip out, but screw paying a percentage of my earnings like I have a pimp...
Is OTC really a part of maintaining a high spending regular? I have my regs, but they know me well enough and have the kind of friendship to never dream of asking for anything more than I give them, which is companionship and (no contact) fun within the confines of the club.
Re: Making money whilst competing with OTC/touching/extra services to clients
i cant really say much coz everyone knows i dont like to keep regulars. you should speak to jessie, she admitted on here to have had drinks otc [strictly no touching, for a fee] to maintain better reg relations. but IMO you dont need to do all that stuff. when i first started i went through quite a few regs and the thing is, they all have an expiry date. i really wish you got to meet olive. she basically sees no one OTC coz shes too paranoid bout having stalkers in the last and likes to keep her personal life separate, she basially just gets them to come in for a week/month straight, and push push push for all the money, shows, tips etc itc until theyre too broke to come back. some regs are good for years and years, some just need to be grilled for ALL the monies then disposed of. olive has a new regular every few months and when the old ones recover financially they ome back to keep spending on her without her doing any extra effort. just do whatever you comfortable with, push for whatever you think their budget would allow and keep them coming back for that lenght of time till you find new ones.
honestly please if youre curious, shes on here 'olivejardin' pm her and say youre my friend. shes the most knowledgeable stripper ive ever known
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I wish I had the balls and charisma to make someone willing to spend everything they could on me. I have been inching closer to being more demanding, and insisted on a $500 tip a couple Wednesday's ago, and a couple of hundred on Thursday, both times just the one person. I made a lot more off Saturday night podiums by being demanding as hell, so I am getting there, and when they're drunk assholes I feel like I can ask for whatever and deserve it...
I'm just not sure I have that magnetic personality to make guys want to come back over and over again. I AM however getting curious, based on the last couple of weeks, on how much I could actually get in end of show/night tips, and curiosity may lend itself to good results. I dunno, maybe I'll just hit and run with guys who have the dollars, get big bucks off them, and not worry abt whether they come back.
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even if you just get big tips its a great start especially how the clubs been lately
im very much diggin my 'new persona'. since i no speeka no eeengleesh [lol] i get away with being a lot more demanding too. those fuckers got TOLD this week, and voila, cash tips for everyone! i need to start demanding more and see how much i get away with lol
tonite i get tipped $100 then i kicked the guy in the balls and walked off
sometimes i try hard to reinvent my 'love' for the job
Re: Making money whilst competing with OTC/touching/extra services to clients
OTC is not a bad thing... just to low earners who can't get a customer base!
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Is OTC really a part of maintaining a high spending regular?
Absolutely no it is not.
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It seems unsafe, and to give the wrong message, like a "date".
You're right because in a customers eyes it will never be maintaining a business relationship'.
It will always be considered a date them.
Re: Making money whilst competing with OTC/touching/extra services to clients
I made a thread about this earlier this year. Search for it with search bar!!