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I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
Well I spent 5 hours last night logged onto MFC and made a whopping total of $67....yes still awesome $12+/hr better than I was making previously but I have questions for you girls.
Ok before I logged on the first time I spent 7 or 8 days watching some of the girls in the top 20 and my question is.....how the hell do they do 2 or 3 countdowns a day of 6,000 tokens or group shows with 10+ people or get crazy tips because last night I did 2 group shows and barely had 3 people and a minute after it starts it goes down to 2 or even 1 and they stay at 1 for sooooooo long.
I tried to copy those girls but do a countdown of 1000 tokens for public show and after 3 hours I just quit I had 677 to go, so my question is WTF are those girls doing to bring in so many tokens and fans. I mean I feel Im above avg looks wise, Im slim and have a pretty face. Maybe it was day 1 jitters, but can you girls help me understand MFC better
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
Hi, I feel your pain :( I'm rather new to all of this myself, but have been doing it for a few months...I have heard of girls that have been at it for years having the very same issues with lots of sites that they used to make amazing money on, not just MFC. People that have been here for longer have regular customers at least lol we have to work a lot harder to get regulars, keep them, and probably work more hours overall to make what we need to make. It doesn't seem that looks even matter a lot of the time...I am definitely no model lol a lot of guys find my face attractive and I have big boobs, I'm 5ft 1 but not exactly thin at 123 pounds...I'm not the least bit toned and to make it worse, I have the WORST stomach in the world lol it just looks like ground beef hanging after two kids and weight fluctuations...but I don't show that on cam lol but I see girls who bank big time, like number 1 and 2 on the website, when they have no attractive qualities lol so I don't know what it is...but I know that being attractive isn't the only thing we have to bring to the table...personality and being able to give a quality show, and even when some do have it all, the ball still doesn't get rolling.
One major thing that I've seen, and I've even seen cam site admins say openly, is that the industry got way overflooded with camgirls and they've never had so many, and it spreads the customers out among them much more. It has basically affected everyone from the top earners down to us newbies.
It is very hard to not get discouraged I do too :(
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
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Originally Posted by
ashleyfire
Well I spent 5 hours last night logged onto MFC and made a whopping total of $67....yes still awesome $12+/hr better than I was making previously but I have questions for you girls.
Ok before I logged on the first time I spent 7 or 8 days watching some of the girls in the top 20 and my question is.....how the hell do they do 2 or 3 countdowns a day of 6,000 tokens or group shows with 10+ people or get crazy tips because last night I did 2 group shows and barely had 3 people and a minute after it starts it goes down to 2 or even 1 and they stay at 1 for sooooooo long.
I tried to copy those girls but do a countdown of 1000 tokens for public show and after 3 hours I just quit I had 677 to go, so my question is WTF are those girls doing to bring in so many tokens and fans. I mean I feel Im above avg looks wise, Im slim and have a pretty face. Maybe it was day 1 jitters, but can you girls help me understand MFC better
#1 be grateful for your $67 esp as a newbie & esp on MFC
#2 i don't think we're allowed to mention other models on here
#3 instead of copying, be yourself. nothing wrong with watching other rooms tho to get ideas
#4 how do u know they made their countdowns? did u see their token counter? They could've said fuck it i'm gonna do my public show anyway & hope i make my goal during the show
congrats on making more than $0 your first nite & on a crowded site :)
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
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Originally Posted by
ashleyfire
Well I spent 5 hours last night logged onto MFC and made a whopping total of $67....yes still awesome $12+/hr better than I was making previously but I have questions for you girls.
Ok before I logged on the first time I spent 7 or 8 days watching some of the girls in the top 20 and my question is.....how the hell do they do 2 or 3 countdowns a day of 6,000 tokens or group shows with 10+ people or get crazy tips because last night I did 2 group shows and barely had 3 people and a minute after it starts it goes down to 2 or even 1 and they stay at 1 for sooooooo long.
I tried to copy those girls but do a countdown of 1000 tokens for public show and after 3 hours I just quit I had 677 to go, so my question is WTF are those girls doing to bring in so many tokens and fans. I mean I feel Im above avg looks wise, Im slim and have a pretty face. Maybe it was day 1 jitters, but can you girls help me understand MFC better
It isn't you, lovely girl. MFC is a hard site to make money on and you are doing way better than you think. There is no 'easy' answer. All you can do is to read EVERYTHING you can on the forums. Read, read, read, and learn, learn, learn till you are sick of both and then take a break and do it all over again.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
yeah I did forget to add that also, that it is GREAT that you made that much in 5 hours...I would have been over the moon if I could have made that on my first night...I did have a second night but it didn't last long. I wasn't in the mood for the crap the beggars were putting out.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
It takes a lot to be a top model there. They have spent ALOT of time building a fan base. So it seems easy for them. But it was a lot of work for them to get to that point.
Try watching a lower ranked model for a while. Some one with a goal similar to yours. Or maybe its just not the site for you. I think the best description I ever read about MFC was by Loveshooks found here-
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...MFC-Rant/page2
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loveshooks
regarding mfc and 'fairness', I think what some of y'all are forgetting is that the amazing $$$$$ potential there wouldn't be possible were it not for mfc's structure which is designed to create clearly defined 'winners' and 'losers'.
While there's chicas on every site who bank, others who struggle and a ton who float around the middle, mfc is the only high traffic site designed to create, entrench and reproduce these categories. Having amazing looks, personality and hustle aren't enough. To reach the top one needs also to attain the approval of the mega-tippers, which through social pressure induces other guys to follow accordingly. Think back to grade school, and how certain peeps actually got off on the ability to grant or deny access to social resources like 'popularity'. mfc just monetizes that system (cam score) and mentality (the lounge, what some of y'all have wrote in the past about the 'big boys'::) club).
mfc's advertising angle of "hot chicas alone at home dyyyyyying to get naked. Just for you!!! Never get ripped off by, ya know, ACTUAL cam chicas again"::) wouldn't work if there weren't a ton of chicas on line, entertaining guys for free, some literally bending themselves over backwards in the hopes of reaching the brass ring. What mfc is really selling the guys is power...the power to choose who banks and who doesn't, and the power to watch for free while every chica strives to attain a level of popularity that by design only a few will ever attain.
It's sincerely not my intention to diminish the incredible accomplishments of chicas who do bank on mfc...as I've written elsewhere in the past, I'm thoroughly impressed by and have a ton of respect for those of y'all who do. To get to the top one does need amazing skills. All I'm writing is something that I think about every time I read about the 'unfairness' of mfc. 'Unfairness' is a value judgement, and it's unproductive to criticize a site for operating in the way it's designed to operate. mfc is what it is, and without that structure it would be a fundamentaly different site, probably with a reduced level of earning potential for those who do reach the top.
What I'm saying is that mfc is designed to create the conditions some of y'all get frustrated by. It would be like me getting frustrated that indy camming has no free chat; the circle jerk popularity aspect of mfc and its impact on earnings is built into the structure of the site. Every chica who signs up agrees to play that game, and props to those who win. Hell, if I actually had the time and temperament that's required for a site like mfc, I'd propbably sign up myself just to try it. Like Rina said, however, use the site til it stops working, then move on. Railing against it doesn't make much sense, not when there's other places to earn $$$$ that don't cause so much f%^&ing grief.
wishing ya'll a wicked $$$$$$ day
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
you r watching the wrong girls. all the 1s u named are big name brand girls on mfc. they have 100000s of fans and rich sugardaddies and they can log on and do NOTHING and bank. that was ur first mistake to watch them. watch the girls who are lesser known but have camscores of around 3000-5000. these are girls who EARN money on there and don't just "log on and profit". 1000 for a cumshow? thats CHEAP. Up ur price. no1 wants 2 see a cheap cum show, girls who offer cum shows for 400 are avoided because it screams SHIT SHOW at the members.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
i made 16 or 17 an hr when i first started i got my camscore to the 2000s and i was making like 30 something an hr more on good days working like 15 hrs a week. you will make more the longer you are there. countdowns are not for everyone i don't do well with countdowns but I do well with groups and privates. one of the girls you mentioned I remember when she had a camscore of 700 and she made it to the top. you have to get a fan base and find out what works for you I pull in good money doing group and private only I can hardly make a dime on countdowns. looks don't matter on mfc its personality and beauty is in the eye of the beholder honestly not all guys are gonna find every girl attractive.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
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funismymiddlename
i made 16 or 17 an hr when i first started i got my camscore to the 2000s and i was making like 30 something an hr more on good days working like 15 hrs a week. you will make more the longer you are there. countdowns are not for everyone i don't do well with countdowns but I do well with groups and privates. one of the girls you mentioned I remember when she had a camscore of 700 and she made it to the top. you have to get a fan base and find out what works for you I pull in good money doing group and private only I can hardly make a dime on countdowns. looks don't matter on mfc its personality and beauty is in the eye of the beholder honestly not all guys are gonna find every girl attractive.
u cant say looks dont matter and personality does, because every guy is different, some big spenders dont give a shit about ur personality they just wanna drop $$$ for your tits and ass and then fuck off back 2 their wives.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
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funismymiddlename
i made 16 or 17 an hr when i first started i got my camscore to the 2000s and i was making like 30 something an hr more on good days working like 15 hrs a week. you will make more the longer you are there. countdowns are not for everyone i don't do well with countdowns but I do well with groups and privates. one of the girls you mentioned I remember when she had a camscore of 700 and she made it to the top. you have to get a fan base and find out what works for you I pull in good money doing group and private only I can hardly make a dime on countdowns. looks don't matter on mfc its personality and beauty is in the eye of the beholder honestly not all guys are gonna find every girl attractive.
Which one had cam score of 700??? And when bc mine is 705 today and I can only dream of making what those girls make, I counted a cum show and tips during show at like 9000 tokens in. 1.5 hrs
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
Ashley would you edit the names in your first post already?
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
Okay, so you KNOW you're wrong for posting this, right? Those models you just called out do not deserve to be talked about like that behind their backs. How DARE you. Maybe those ladies have been camming for a while and have earned themselves a good following?
Also, the search function is your friend, my dear.
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LMAO I reread her again.
I was about to say something about which thread to read and stuff but I call quits instead.
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TeenageAnnie
u cant say looks dont matter and personality does, because every guy is different, some big spenders dont give a shit about ur personality they just wanna drop $$$ for your tits and ass and then fuck off back 2 their wives.
they don't matter as much as it seems yes most of the successful girls are in good shape but you have to have a personality to back it up. I've been called out before a couple guys were like you're hotter than most girls here but you act like you don't wanna be here. There is a top earner that is a monster and there are plenty that look average so it's prob 50% personality 50% looks. I think faces don't matter you could be butterface and have a good persona and bank. So I guess faces don't matter.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
damn it was my first day posting, I didnt know it was against the rules to post a public figures name? How do I delete it, sorry about that, I just thought I'd give examples and yes one of those girls I mentioned, I saw her start and complete 3 x 7000 token countdown in 1 day about 2 hrs apart thats over $1,000/day and she seems to do it everytime she logs on.....I just wanted to know if thats one day realistic for me, because even as a dancer Id make $400/night tops on average
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
How would you like it if some chick came on here and talked about your looks, your hustle? Who said they basically freeloaded in your room for hours trying to copy your methods? I'm guessing not very much.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
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ashleyfire
damn it was my first day posting, I didnt know it was against the rules to post a public figures name? How do I delete it, sorry about that, I just thought I'd give examples and yes one of those girls I mentioned, I saw her start and complete 3 x 7000 token countdown in 1 day about 2 hrs apart thats over $1,000/day and she seems to do it everytime she logs on.....I just wanted to know if thats one day realistic for me, because even as a dancer Id make $400/night tops on average
No, it is not realistic for the average cam girl at all, especially on mfc, especially being brand new to camming.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
New girls need to know that MFC is for more experienced cammers (unless you're incredibly lucky). They know how to entice the guys to buy into their nightly goals (they also have a HUGE fan base that adds up to many people over the years). I learned the hard way. I might close my account and try it again in the future when I know what I'm doing, and have the space (my living situation isn't very suitable for something like MFC). So anyway, if it still isn't working out for you, you might have to go to a different site. That's what I did, and I'm much happier now.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
I made ALOT of $ on MFC..but..
the idea of performing for free for hundreds of people ( AFTER I was reaching the tokens goals) started to give me a nervous breakdown at a point...
I believe MFC has a bigger agenda.. that we do not know..
maybe will start to sell adds and clicks in the near future?
they JUST want the traffic...
Traffic is king.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
Fridays I thought of that too...I did horrible on it but I do log in from time to time and chat just a little and visit, just for the heck of it, and I couldn't help but get the feeling that there was a bigger agenda, and also it skeeved me out after realizing that anyone, anyone at all, could be seeing me for free and most likely was since its a VERY popular site.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
I don't do explicit shows on MFC except in group pvt. And that's after a nice token countdown to open up the pvt in the first place, hehe. Well, that's what I started doing last night anyway lol. Before I decided to try that, I saved explicit shows for regular/true pvt only.
And Crustyz is right, if you haven't cammed before, starting on MFC will eat you alive. Luckily, I had some experience on SM first. Otherwise, my MFC career would be going very differently.
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
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funismymiddlename
they don't matter as much as it seems yes most of the successful girls are in good shape but you have to have a personality to back it up. I've been called out before a couple guys were like you're hotter than most girls here but you act like you don't wanna be here. There is a top earner that is a monster and there are plenty that look average so it's prob 50% personality 50% looks. I think faces don't matter you could be butterface and have a good persona and bank. So I guess faces don't matter.
yes i was not, not agreeing with this. i am believer of this, i was mad when someone said that looks dont matter at all. there are some dog ugly girls on the 5th page with amazing personalities who dont do well at all, and also some stunners on the 5th page who just sit there and do nothing, but for every girl there is a bunch of guys who like her type, so im trying to point out that you can make $$$ whatever type u are.
somedays i make a lot from pretending to be a stupid bimbo, i spell everything badly wrong purposely and string sentences together that make people think i am not english at all, i dont say anything but "tip me bb" every 30 seconds. and i can make bank. other days i log on and be my real self and talk and have a banging personality, but then i find the room fills up with guys who just want to chat to me and not tip because i am so fucking fun to CHAT to no-one cares about my tits. ahahahah. MEN........ !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: I just Cammed for the first time MFC last night....I want to cry :( Help me?
60 something on the first nite, u were very lucky girl!!!
I tried to make it at MFC, doing countdowns for less than 1000 toks and out of 5 days logging in, maybe 2 nights i could reach my goal, the rest was a waste of time.....
MFC is really hard at first but if u r patient and lucky u can bank really well.
Those girls on the top 20 have been there for a long time and builded a big, strong fans base over time, a friend of mine, started working there over a yr ago and she struggled for months! now she s finally on the top 100 and super happy about that, it s hard to make it to the top 100 , imagine the top 20 ha ha ha
I m planning to give it a last try starting in September to see how it goes... hope i make better money this time!