Top Cam Girl Performers Doing it ALL in Public Chat and Making BANK!
So as a new commer, I finally took the time to watch a couple of shows especially on MFC and the pattern I noticed is that the Most Viewed Girls, some with over 2700 people in their rooms, were all doing EVERYTHING in public chat and were getting major tips/tokens, like big time tips. They were doing full nude, masturbation, dildo, anal, squirts, everything that I thought (as was learned from here) was to be saved for private shows. But it seems like they (based on my analysis) figured forget going private for 60 tokens a minute and hoping to get like only 3 to 6 privates in a shift, when they can make their public chat like a private show for everyone and get 20 to 50 or more token tips out of 1000 or more public viewers, which for most custies, 20 tokens is not a lot to give so they are more readily able to tip that than in private where within 5 minutes they've used hundreds of their tokens already.
So I'm conflicted and yet at the same time intrigued by the business sense of this strategy of getting a little from many versus getting a lot from only a few. What do you ladies think?
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Well, MFC is a token system so I am not surprised that people push it as far as it will go.
This is why I try to avoid token based sites. :)
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Look closer- there are quite a few top models on MFC who do non-nude. Tip based sites are a strange beast. I personally don't like masturbating with 5 people paying for it and 1995 other viewers getting it for free- in fact, it bothers me. So I don't do it. I also think that girls who are "doing it all" in free chat are kinda ruining the hustle.. But that's just my opinion.
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I can't reconcile doing shows for a majority of non-tippers...most of the visitors are basics and guests. I've seen top girls sitting, dancing nude, diddling and not getting tipped or practically begging for tokens. Maybe doing public shows works for the short term, but I'm not sure about the long run.
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Most of those girls do huge countdowns before they do those things--5000 tokens to show, 3000 tokens to top off, etc... I believe they think the ends justify the means. However Crash is right saying many top girls are non-nude. Last month the top two MFC girls were non-nudes. It all depends on your fan base. There are way more girls doing it all for free than there are the top girls like that who make tons of tokens. Go through all the pages sometime and not just the first page. Without loyal fans/regulars you won't make any money giving it all away for free--you won't make any money at all.
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actually MOST models not the TOP MODELS but the 1s who saw the top models doing it and then go and do it... are like ... they have 2700 people watching them dont made any money at all since its free, and click their profiles and check out their shit 800 cam scores and they dont realise why its so fucking low :D the top models do it cause they are TOP MODELS. I dont get why as most of them could get the exact same big tips for just showing up...
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That is very much a MFC thing. Like twisted princess said, they are usually running the room with a countdown - x number of tokens till a show - and then once they get there, they are just tipped on top of that. It is very different to SM or other sites that are based on pvt shows.
That said, you will NOT get to the top by stripping off and fucking yourself for free.
Watching the top girls can be inspirational, but bear in mind that just doing exactly what they do won't make YOU the same money - placement, scheduling, and reputation/regulars make up a lot of the money that they are getting.
I don't like the token sites because of how much is done in free - even if I was getting the money, I don't like the fact that underage kids can watch that for free, or that more than 50% of my room might be watching without contributing. It's not for me, but you will have to figure out what you want to do for you.
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I stopped doing public shows completely. I only did about 3 and they were very awkward. After watching other camgirls barely make anything during the show and coming across a public show of mine on some scummy site, I decided it was not worth it. I will just get naked in public chat. But I always do some sort of game to get naked so I can keep the tips coming (and reward tippers with prizes) and to get customers wanting Privates/Groups.
If you're just wanting Privates/Groups like myself, just play games, tease/flirt, chat, and just be chummy! I have my regulars who are happy with Privates, and it's way better than getting a few people to tip for nude/cumshows and have a flood of cheap users watch you without chipping in. Most of the time I won't even get completely nude but will make my goal from tips and Privates/Groups. And sometimes it forces the cheap users to watch the Private or join the Group which adds to your income! And it will add to your camscore (i'm trying to get mine back to where it was).
I am satisfied with being a nude, non-public show type of camgirl. But keep in mind you will have to come up with new ideas/games to do while you are in public waiting for Privates/Groups.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that those top models have usually put in many many hours of work behind the scenes to gain those fans, keep in contact, send out prizes, shoot videos, etc etc.
It's not as simple as just getting on cam and being naked in free chat.
Way too much work and time investment for me, but I do admire the ones who have made it to the top.
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Sometimes I lurk Chaturbate, where the front page is determined by viewers and not by tippers. There are multipl profile with g/g, b/g, g/g/g shows that are always on top, doing ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING in public chat...but they don't actually MAKE anything. I saw one where two girls were having full on lesbian sex in public..their top tip? 5 tokens. NNow, most of these profiles are in Romania, where the Lei(their currency) is one of the weakest in Europe, so to get paid 300 tokens at the end of the night for them is probably pretty good, but for anyone who lives in the Eurozone, UK, or even the US, it's just unrealistic. They also had over 2,000 pople in the room...and only made 300 tokens. I'd rather have 10 tipping guys than 2,000 freeloaders.
There's also the issue of cam recording and piracy. If you're doingstuff in public, literally anyone can come in, record it, and redistribute it. If it happened in private you could at least maybe narrow it down to who it may have been, but not in public.
I don't know. It just doesn't seem logical to do stuff in public with the hope that someone will tip. They have no motivation to if you're just giving it away. Countdowns are a different story.
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Jaana
Sometimes I lurk Chaturbate, where the front page is determined by viewers and not by tippers. There are multipl profile with g/g, b/g, g/g/g shows that are always on top, doing ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING in public chat...but they don't actually MAKE anything. I saw one where two girls were having full on lesbian sex in public..their top tip? 5 tokens. NNow, most of these profiles are in Romania, where the Lei(their currency) is one of the weakest in Europe, so to get paid 300 tokens at the end of the night for them is probably pretty good, but for anyone who lives in the Eurozone, UK, or even the US, it's just unrealistic. They also had over 2,000 pople in the room...and only made 300 tokens. I'd rather have 10 tipping guys than 2,000 freeloaders.
There's also the issue of cam recording and piracy. If you're doingstuff in public, literally anyone can come in, record it, and redistribute it. If it happened in private you could at least maybe narrow it down to who it may have been, but not in public.
I don't know. It just doesn't seem logical to do stuff in public with the hope that someone will tip. They have no motivation to if you're just giving it away. Countdowns are a different story.
When I browsed Chaturbate recently, I actually saw some male models who were jerking off for a really long time, and on their chat room page it said 'This model DOES NOT accept tokens' or something like that. So I guess some models (or just the male models who WANT to j/o without pay?) on there actually enjoy cumming in public chat for absolutely free?
And I agree...the whole public cum show thing ain't for me. I save all the toy play for one-on-one private shows with people who are willing to PAY me a decent amount. And I know that charging extremely low for Skype shows or private shows usually attracts the ruder, cheaper guys. Having higher rates often attract the more respectful guys willing to spend...ya know...the guys who are less likely to enter chat demanding you to "fuck pussy really hard and cum for me, bb." *facepalm*
Earlier today I once again saw a pretty Black model on Streamate naked in free chat and repeatedly saying "Tip me, guys." She was telling one of the guys that he needs to come out to Vegas and kick it with her, and that if he gives her his number she will call him right now. Then she proceeded to get mad at her room for not tipping towards her $50 (or $75?) Gold show. As often as she's on Streamate, she should know better. She'd better hope SM doesn't suspend her for the free chat nakedness, or catch on to the whole 'initiating in-person contact with members' thing, since they're so strict.
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TheBrownFox
When I browsed Chaturbate recently, I actually saw some male models who were jerking off for a really long time, and on their chat room page it said 'This model DOES NOT accept tokens' or something like that. So I guess some models (or just the male models who WANT to j/o without pay?) on there actually enjoy cumming in public chat for absolutely free?
And I agree...the whole public cum show thing ain't for me. I save all the toy play for one-on-one private shows with people who are willing to PAY me a decent amount. And I know that charging extremely low for Skype shows or private shows usually attracts the ruder, cheaper guys. Having higher rates often attract the more respectful guys willing to spend...ya know...the guys who are less likely to enter chat demanding you to "fuck pussy really hard and cum for me, bb." *facepalm*
Earlier today I once again saw a pretty Black model on Streamate naked in free chat and repeatedly saying "Tip me, guys." She was telling one of the guys that he needs to come out to Vegas and kick it with her, and that if he gives her his number she will call him right now. Then she proceeded to get mad at her room for not tipping towards her $50 (or $75?) Gold show. As often as she's on Streamate, she should know better. She'd better hope SM doesn't suspend her for the free chat nakedness, or catch on to the whole 'initiating in-person contact with members' thing, since they're so strict.
Uh..I think some girls on sites don't even bother reading the rules. My husband always got the hunch that the super beggy girls may be trafficed, but there's obviously no proof.