should we have this?
solely for gold shows?
It seems like lately GS are,, hum how to say this...not as before?
opinions?
EDIT: are gold shows losing their appeal?
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should we have this?
solely for gold shows?
It seems like lately GS are,, hum how to say this...not as before?
opinions?
EDIT: are gold shows losing their appeal?
I'm not sure what you mean, Fridays ... not what they used to be?
I tried a GS tonight but not enough people were pitching in, so I just went back to privates. Some nights my goals are easy, sometimes not ... depends.
It seems a lot harder to get a Goldshow going lately. Even with a decent amount of people in the room.
Works for me, there are certain glitches that only come with Gold Shows.
One of my gold shows timed out in the last 30 seconds yesterday and the other one right before I completed a countdown.
I really was not please in either case.
I am with you on that one Friday....
Gold show have been harder to pull off for me,
When they stick it always the most random show, ie prices and minutes goal.
My last gold show I got by threatening to log off and putting my shoe on. I did log off right after that show (so I was leaving)
I watch a girl do a fake TV show timer to get to her goal...It was so funny but she made the goal.
I just find it so weird that they'll pay $4.99/min for a pvt but won't pay $5 for a 6 minute gold show....Im like um I do the same thing in both...stupid boys. Hey though, more $$$ for me.
When I'm in a model's room who is working on getting a GOLD show, there's almost always some guy in there asking "Can we go private?" LMAO.
I wonder how many of them see other guys chipping in for the GOLD show, and get a little jealous and decide right then and there to take her private. If she doesn't get enough GOLD towards the show and cancels it, that could be a good time for the guy to take her private.
I'm curious...do any of you ever SUCCESSFULLY do GOLD shows that don't involve toys? Like a baby oil striptease...shower show...whipped cream/chocolate syrup? I'm just curious if enough guys would contribute towards a non-toy play show to make it worth your while.
when they ask during the gold show " cancel lets go prv," if I dont know that person, I suspect sometimes that they do it just to fuck with the model..... not that they really want private.
I never tried non toy but I thought of it and I think they might pledge...
Ive seen 2 different GS lately that got me thinking
1. pledge 0... for 4 min... goal 1200 lol...
I wonder what was the purpuse and how mujch she could have gotten in "extra tips" during the 4 min.. which is not a a long time...
2. a couple who used to be live, now they do ' voyeur'.. not sure how much the pledge was, they were inside the GS. but this got me thinking too...
OMG I was about to create a thread like this today - Fridays, are you reading my thoughts?!?!? LOL
I would really like to get gold shows going, but I just seem to FAIL so far at them. I feel like I need to do some experimenting, so I wanted to hear your thoughts on a couple things..
Countdowns - do you find that you do better making them long (to give guys enough time to build up to the goal) or short (so that guys aren't having to wait 20 mins once they have made their pledge)?
While you are in a countdown - do you talk about the show, and actively try to get people to pledge, or do you just do your normal chatting/flirting and assume that guys will pledge with minimal pushing? I really hate feeling like I am selling myself at a market stall - constantly talking about what I'm going to do and what a great deal it is....UGH. Does anyone have success NOT talking about the show too much?
Finally - longer or shorter? I feel like this is the crux of it - so far, all I have tried to do is shorter shows (under 10mins) and aimed for smaller goals, and smaller buy in. But I know that some of you have had success with much longer shows with bigger buy-ins....
Thoughts?
I haven't yet been able to have a successful GOLD show, they just aren't my style really. I much prefer one on one and I think that subconsciously comes across in my hustle. What I am getting sick of is idiots who come in my room and try to get me to do GOLD shows because they can't afford a private. "Bb I lost my job but I really want to see you, 2 dollar GOLD show????" "Bb if you really wanted to make money you would make a small goal with a half hour show!!" I could seriously kill those dudes. I hate bargain hunters.
I'm in the same boat as you Sabrina... Haven't actually done a gold show yet because I never make the goal. I've tried high for long, high for short, low for long, low for short, I've tried different times of day, and I've tried different types of shows. But this is only my 1st week doing them. I'm thinking it's probably the fact that I have only been camming for a couple months at this point? I'll keep trying but def don't have my hopes up.
When guys are complaining that $7/$8 is "too high...lower it, bb" and they're telling you "Show tits, and we'll pay," they're cheap-asses who you probably don't want in your shows anyway. They're probably the kind of guys who would bark orders during GOLD shows and give bad ratings (after a private show) cuz you don't do anal.
It's been my experience that the most demanding, bossy guys are the ones who don't stay in private long, and who try to convince you to lower rates for them.
Most guys want individualized attention, that's why. So unless you also give them that attention for free in free chat, or do a lot of privates/exclusives to the point where most of your custys have had a personalized show with you, there's really no incentive for them to buy into a gold show when he could just watch the same thing on a porn tube site for free. With gold shows being pushed so hard these days, girls forget to interact.
Men pay for individualized attention, not really for sex when it comes to camming. If I were a man, I would much rather pay $6/minute for individualized attention to get exactly what I want, then pay $6 flat for no attention and for something I could get for free from a tube site. Unless I had already developed a connection to that girl.
OMG, I thought this was just me. I started the show like 4 seconds before the countdown was supposed to end, and BAM, I'm in free chat. All the guys are like "what happened bb? why you cancel?" I was so pissed. This happened to me 2 or 3 times ... not on the same night ... both times I made my goal, and had guys pitching in $30 and $40 to compete for highest tipper. I just ended up logging off in frustrated. Now, I make sure I start the show within 10 seconds of the end of the countdown.
The thing about it timing out in the last 30 seconds, is why long shows are out of the question for me ... I would just be paranoid the whole time of it cutting out. Plus, there's a lot of storms where I live, and the internet cuts out at night sometimes.
I NEVER use toys...not in pvt, premium, or exclusive....Ive been thinking about it but as of now I'm doing well enough I don't see any need to use them.
Im thinking about buying a real looking penis dildo for BJ shows because I get a lot of requests for them in privates and they seem easy enough but I do not plan on using it for penetration.
I only use my fingers for shows but I imagine it would be a lot easier to reach GS goals if I offered toys.
I haven't worked since like March or April so this might not be relevant anymore, but almost all of my gold shows were non-toy shows. I did mostly naked smoke shows, maybe some slight finger play but not much. I charged a little less than $1/1min since it wasn't a hardcore show---usually something like $4/6mins with $80-100 goal. Idk if I'm gonna get crap for admitting to charging so little but they were usually fairly successful and since they weren't physically demanding, I looked at them more as a paid smoke break.
Well, last night was SUPER SLOW traffic wise, and in doing 4 gold shows I only didn't make the $150 goal in one of them, but it was only because of big tippers that I reached the other 3. Each show had less than 15 guys in it. I had to start before I made the goal but did meet it during the shows.
Otherwise, I feel like overall I am able to make higher goals than I was in the past, but it seems SOOOOO much harder to get guys to actually pledge. It's like begging them and pulling teeth to get them to put in $5. And you have to offer all these additional incentives to get them to even join in the first place, like videos etc. which sucks. So even with still making goals, I think getting there is quite a bit harder lately.