When I was working as a forensic scientist for 2 years, I just declared everything, than they didn't even question me what my job entailed :) but now it's so much better dancing and camming and escorting loving it :)
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When I was working as a forensic scientist for 2 years, I just declared everything, than they didn't even question me what my job entailed :) but now it's so much better dancing and camming and escorting loving it :)
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I m back to give u girls a quick update about my job search...
1) the spa never called me back, not only that, they didn t even check the 3 references I e mailed her that same day I had the interview ( she seemed very interested in me and what that people had to say about me , or that s what it looked like...lol but nothing, nobody got a call, I asked my ex supervisors and no calls.
2) The bank never called me either and they took off the ad from monster so I guess they found someone else, not so surprised since i had no banking experience and if someone who had worked at a bank before came after me, I m sure he/she got the job...
and I had 4! freaking interviews for a chain hotel that i used to work for in the past, i had 4 interviews cause, the HR manager liked me, so she told me to come back and have interviews with 2 more managers and then even the GM was available so I saw him as well, after the 4th interview i was like... " well i guess they like me, i mean they wouldn t have made me do this if they didn t think i was a good candidate" and it s gonna be a week tomorrow and haven t heard anything from them... so i m gonna call tomorrow and see what they say, if they are still interviewing people or what...
It could be so many things, maybe they had more qualified people applying, with more experience or whatever... but I m also wondering if some cam site showed up on the background check n that s why none of them called me...
At the spa and the hotel i know they do background check and even credit check ( remember I have almost no credit) that could be a reason why too....
I ll call tomorrow and let u know what she said, I m starting to believe that maybe camming will fuck up my future somehow, hope I m wrong but i ll always wonder why these people didn t call me and why the spa didn t even check the references I gave her....
Well I ended up writing a long message...lol sorry about that!!
^Best of luck hon.
I just found this on line....
Oh btw, I called the HR dept but left a voicemail because she was away from her desk.. I ll let u know if she calls back and what she says...
These days, background checks are becoming more and more popular. Frequently employers pay a company to find out information about job applicants, such as: driving record, vehicle registration, credit record, criminal record, Social Security number, education record, court records, Workers' Compensation claims, bankruptcy, character references, neighbor interviews, medical records, property ownership, military records, state licensing records, drug test records, past employers, personal references, incarceration records and sex offender lists. Whether an employer hoping to glean information about a job applicant or just a paranoid boyfriend or girlfriend, most of this information costs money.Unfortunately, all of the websites that advertise free background checks actually do not offer 100% free background checks. Most of them allow a search by name, along with other information, and show a results list, usually with other information such as age, city they are located in, and possible relatives, but everything else requires a fee, usually $40 or more, in order to see the whole file and the rest of the information. There does not seem to be an absolutely free background check.Background checks can be compiled by professionals, such as private investigators, companies that perform employment screening and online data brokers, such as the websites that advertise the free background checks. In the age of information, much of the work to compile a background check is now completed by computer, so consider reviewing online "digital dirt" or fingerprints. Some of what many job applicants believe is off-limits is, in employers' views, fair game. Nearly 75 percent of job screeners review an applicant's online presence, and more than a quarter of them admit to denying jobs to people with questionable statements or activities found only online. There are many laws regarding what can and cannot be included in a background check, but most of these favor the employer, not the job applicant. Please see the below links for more information. More reference links: https://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs16-bck.htm consumer-warning.org
I highlighted that part where it talks about the " on line presence", I heard they check facebooks account but that shouldn t be a prob for me cause I delete my naughty FB and I only have my personal one and there s nothing compromising about it...
Anyways, I ll keep u posted, sorry if I sound paranoid but having so many interviews and not getting a call back from anywhere makes me feel concerned...
It's a bad economy. People go months without jobs. It's highly, highly unlikely it's due to them finding camming. Googling all this crap is just making you more paranoid. More than likely they had 100 applicants for each job and someone was more qualified.
ha ha ha I know Selina! I should stop researching, it s hard to get hired nowadays in this economy, I agree with u, i mean imagine all the kids that graduate from college each yr, they ll be looking for jobs to pay off their student loans debts but the positions available are not a lot, so i guess it gets harder n harder with time...
I m not an american citizen ( yet) but I m a permanent resident so I don t think that s a problem and almost all my work experience was here in the US, but the thing is.. I basically got used to ( spoiled) to making a living from camming alone for like 3 yrs and that might also be affecting me, the fact that for my potencial employers " I ve been out of work for almost 3 yrs now..." so that could also sound weird to them...
Anyways, the lady hasn t called me back yet, she leaves the office around 4:30 pm est so I still have time, we ll see if she calls or not even that...
^^ Oh YEAH. Being out of work for 3 years does NOT help. Hell, I wait tables between dancing stints and even being out of the game for 6 months puts me at a disadvantage.
Oh my maybe that s it then...
U know she didn t call me back today, I ll try again tomorrow but will be my last try... if she doesn t get back to me tomorrow means I m totally out of the game and pretty rude I gotta say cause all she had to do was pick up the phone and let me know if they hired someone else or what...
So what about if I was one of this lucky housewives that marry a rich guy and don t have to work and one day suddenly I decide to go back to work?? I could never get back into the jobs market?
Man, I regret many decisions I ve made in my life and if now cause of being out of work since 2010 it s gonna make it 20.000 times harder to get a regular job again then I m very screwed...
I m lucky to have a man who can support the 2 of us but u know, I like having my own money to buy stuff, the money he make is enough for us but not enough to say " Melanie go and use my cc extension and get yourself a nice dress and shoes" LOLLLLLLLLLLL that s why my cam money has been always handy for stuff like that, go get my nails done, etc
Well I ll try again tomorrow but I m starting to lose my hopes with this hotel job :(
I know I gotta stop googling things but check this out...
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...oyment/274957/
I called again today, she said " they are still reviewing candidates and that they will contact me once they ve made a decision or something like that....
I don t know what to expect, guess I still have to have hopes but as time goes by the hope becomes less n less... :(
We ll see what happens! :)
I know how you feel, dear. It's not fun. I also luckily have the awesome boyfriend who pays all the bills and is okay with it, since he knows what the situation is like, both in trying to find a job and in the dancing scene in my city. I don't like him paying for everything; it makes me feel guilty if I bring home Starbucks or something, like "Oh, spending money, eh?"
Hopefully you'll get it, or another opening will come up somewhere!
Thanks girly!! Thanks for the support!!
Yeah I mean they say things happen for a reason, maybe if I don t get that job in the hotel industry making 10 bucks an hr I end up getting something much better in an office with 9 to 5 regular times and better pay...lol
I gotta remain positive and hope for the best!!
Eh. I told ONE person about my old job and suddenly EVERYONE I worked with knew. Luckily, I work in a conservation NGO and they didn't seem to mind. In fact, sometimes they'd joke with me about making money to save the world by dancing and I was always like 'well... yeah... *ahem*' and never explicitly told them exactly HOW I funded my conservation work lol
Personally would never work somewhere where I had to lie on a resume to secure a job. Closeminded thinking like that only holds back humanity.
^^ And how much luck have you had finding jobs while saying "Yes, I spent the last year being a stripper/cam girl" ?
It's peachy to think that way, and while I agree we shouldn't have to lie, but the reality is that if you want to go straight, you'll have to lie at some point.
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^^ And how much luck have you had finding jobs while saying "Yes, I spent the last year being a stripper/cam girl" ?
It's peachy to think that way, and while I agree we shouldn't have to lie, but the reality is that if you want to go straight, you'll have to lie at some point.
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Personally would never work somewhere where I had to lie on a resume to secure a job. Closeminded thinking like that only holds back humanity.
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but the reality is that if you want to go straight, you'll have to lie at some point.
I agree completely with the sentiment. However, I am also forced to acknowledge that potential employers are continuing to establish a 'new reality' regarding new employees. Based on conversations with acquaintances who own businesses ...
- US employers are heavily at risk from potential lawsuits / claims brought by employees ... with the legal costs and potential settlement / award costs to the employer potentially making a huge difference in the business' bottom line.
- US employers are now at risk of being held liable for improper employee actions, both in and sometimes outside the workplace.
- One area of major risk is an employer allowing a 'hostile' or 'sexually charged' working environment to exist for ( some ) employees. Unfortunately, 'non-adult entertainment background' female workers may perceive the presence of a 'stripper' co-worker, and the typical reactions by male co-workers, as creating such an environment. And male and female workers alike may perceive a 'stripper' co-worker getting a pay raise or promotion when they did not to be 'sexually' motivated. These and other situations are grounds for potential lawsuits against the employer ... even though the 'stripper' co-worker may simply be doing her job and trying to avoid unprovoked / unwanted attention.
The point here, according to my business acquaintances, is that the mere presence of an employee with a known adult entertainment industry background in the workplace significantly increases the odds of future 'problems' for the employer. Thus, like potential new employees with other 'negative' attributes ( such as previous comp claims, poor credit history, long list of others ... ), if an employer background check turns up a history of adult entertainment work, the employer is now likely to simply sidestep potential future 'problems' by moving on to other job applicants who don't have 'negative' attributes. Unfortunately for 'strippers', as long as the US unemployment rate remains high, those employers will continue to have a large number of job applicants who don't have 'negative' attributes to choose from ! And, as melanielive is agonizing about, prospective employers have no real obligation to inform any job applicant that they have been passed over, or why they were passed over.
Also, as the potential 'costs' to an employer of hiring the 'wrong' job applicant continue to rise, those employers are increasing the depth of pre-employment background checks. This in combination with increased data mining / information sharing makes it ever more likely that a previous history in the adult entertainment industry will turn up in a background check. This situation obviously creates a dilemma. If the 'ex-stripper' job applicant is honest about her adult entertainment industry background, it is likely to increase the odds that her job application will 'accidentally' fall into the waste basket. But if the 'ex-stripper' job applicant omits her adult entertainment industry background, gets hired, but is later 'outed' and/or ( involuntarily ) placed at the root of a complaint / lawsuit brought by another employee, the omission is grounds for being fired ... with the associated black mark on her employment record / negative references making additional future 'straight' job searches even more difficult.
It's also worth noting that TOMORROW's data mining / information sharing capabilities may make today's capabilities look primitive. For example it's entirely possible that, a few years from now, mainstream use of existing facial recognition technology will result in a prospective employer taking a picture of a potential job applicant, having a background check service search private databases and the internet for ANY matching pictures, and immediately turning up the existence of webcam clips, strip club website pics, 'stage name' websites / twitter etc. pics, etc. If and when that happens, today's risks of having adult entertainment industry related licenses, credit report entries, tax records, etc. discovered during a background check will be 'small potatoes'. Keep in mind that, five years ago, today's concerns about strip clubs / webcam hosts creating tax documents, about state professional licensing agencies performing in-depth background checks etc. were virtually non-existant.
My point here is that, these days, embarking on any adult entertainment industry work is unlikely to be kept secret. And creating a history of adult entertainment industry work is likely to create a 'negative' attribute that can negatively affect future 'straight' employment opportunities. Omitting a history of adult industry work on a future 'straight' job application will be increasingly ineffective in keeping a prospective 'straight' job employer from discovering that the job applicant has a history of adult entertainment industry work. Thus it's worth asking the question in regard to what will be gained via adult entertainment industry work in the short term, versus what might be lost via having a history of adult entertainment industry work in the long term.
I'll also repeat what I have posted in other threads about my own 'straight' job situation. My history of adult entertainment industry work wound up being discovered by a state professional licensing agency during the renewal of my Respiratory Therapist license. This resulted in a citation for 'unprofessional conduct', a fat fine, and a cover letter in my professional license file guaranteeing that any potential future Respiratory Therapy employer will be immediately made aware of my adult entertainment industry background. Fortunately, I had already made the personal commitment to maximize my adult entertainment industry related earnings potential over the course of 12 years, thus I am now in a position to never need to work as a Respiratory Therapist ( or any other 'straight' job ) again. But my situation will definitely not be the case for dancers or camgirls who have only worked in the adult entertainment industry for a year or two, and who then wish to transition to the 'straight' job world.
Just a quick note on the employment background checks - it is dependent on who they use to do them. A lot of theses sites online that let any individual purchase them, do not always have the correct information. Personally, I have been against running credit checks (unless the job specifically calls for it: i.e. a bank, investment group, etc) for employment or insurance. My view on it, my potential employer does not need to know how much my mortgage is, how much is in my bank, or which credit cards I use...period. As to background checks, I also believe the practice is getting way out of control. Yes, I understand the need for them in certain situation, like education, state jobs, working around children. A lot of the companies out there are pulling these with either incorrect or dated info and turning them over to their clients - your potential employer. Maybe I would not have issue IF in fact the potential employee was allowed to see the information and allowed to set the record straight or explain. It is of course a catch 22 - on one hand we all want to be safe, on the other we value our ever diminishing rights to privacy on life style. I could go on and on, but I won't. :) My main point, is not everything in a background check can or will always be accurate or up to date.
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That kinda scares me. I don't want my future messed up because of the type of work i'm doing now. Does anyone know if cam sites some up?
^^ Cam sites can come up if your bank lists them as "potential employer" due to direct deposits repeatedly happening, or if you list them as your employer on a credit check. They are also issuing 1099s now, but unless your potential employer requests to pull your tax (which you have to explicitly sign an IRS form for), they won't see that. They still may not even if you sign that form, because they have to request specific documents - if they just ask for your 1040, they don't get to see the 1099s, they will just see your AGI on the front.
Banks do background checks for criminal activity, they pull credit reports for employment history and to see if you have bad credit, they google the hell out of your name, and they verify every reference and employer listed on your resume.
Freezes on credit reports are pointless for these types of searches and cause bigger issues. If you have an employer listed on your credit report that you want gone, dispute it as an error. It will be removed. Each credit reporting agency has online disputing.
The only time they would come up is if they are listed on your credit report. Employers may report to the credit reporting agencies or if you apply for a loan listing them as your employer.
Direct Deposit information does not show up on your credit report and is not reported.
I can't nail down the exact mechanism behind it happening, but for a fact there seems to be an association between a pattern of regular deposits / payments being received from one particular source, and that particular source showing up as a 'potential employer' on credit reports. However, this credit report info can easily be disputed and removed.Quote:
there are a bunch of people on here that keep saying Streamate got onto their credit report because their bank reported it as a "potential employer".
In terms of right now today, the odds of a cam site being turned up via a routine background check are very low. The odds of a cam site being turned up via an 'in depth' background check ( requiring a tax info release form ) are arguably also rather low.Quote:
Does anyone know if cam sites come up?
IMHO the larger question is whether or not camming ( and other adult entertainment ) activities taking place today will turn up on a future background check a few years from now ... which is a scenario that girls currently studying for college degrees should definitely think about. My greatest 'fear' is that the relentless growth of facial recognition technology will soon make it possible for a prospective employer's background check service to use a photo of a job applicant to perform an internet search that returns facial matches to pics and videos found on webcam host sites, on tube sites, on strip club websites, on 'pirate' sites etc.