Customers In Groups: Which One Do You Approach?
If there is a group of customers, how do you all know which one to approach & which one is most likely to spend money on you? I notice that the good hustlers have an uncanny ability to spot them and they sit down next to the right one then getting dance soon afterwards.
If its just me, I sit in the middle and chat and see who I'm getting a better vibe from. Otherwise if its me and other girls I feel as though who I sit next to is random.
Is there a method to spotting the spender in the group before you sit down so you know which one to sit next to before the other girls approach?
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miss.a.p1600
the good hustlers have an uncanny ability to spot them and they sit down next to the right one then getting dance soon afterwards.
^This-you will often just sense it, whether it's through eye contact, a smile, the way they look at you, the way they react to your smile, or a gut feeling etc. But, sometimes it's just pure dumb luck :P. Have you been dancing long? If not, your Stripper sense will develop :).
Trying to sell doubles is always a great way of targeting groups (as a whole) especially if you charge per guy. Guys in groups are more likely to extend IMO with two girls-they are getting a "lesbian" show. Otherwise you'll find that you will probably only get one of the guys (who may or may not extend). It's easier to get the one guy to go VIP or extend, but on busy nights with young crowds it's easy to get a lot of, "Aw, nah, I've got to see what the fella are doing etc". So, if you can include the whole group-go for it!
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The one staring at my tits the hardest. ::)
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I go for the following - the geekiest looking, the oldest looking, or the most shy dudes I can find. :) These kinda guys (especially nerds) are right up my alley and easy money for me. :)
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lovelydancer
I go for the following - the geekiest looking, the oldest looking, or the most shy dudes I can find. :) These kinda guys (especially nerds) are right up my alley and easy money for me. :)
Me too! I look for the least handsome one, they are usually not very used to female attention and an easy sell.
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lovelydancer
I go for the following - the geekiest looking, the oldest looking, or the most shy dudes I can find. :) These kinda guys (especially nerds) are right up my alley and easy money for me. :)
^This rarely fails ;)!
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The one who is sitting further from the table with legs and arms uncrossed.
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^I also just approach the guy that's closest to me when I walk up pretty much, and I'll start talking to him in order to get acquainted with the group. I can usually figure out which one is most into me with just a little casual banter with everyone in the group, and then I'll try to sell a dance to that guy, even if I'm sitting in a different guy's lap lol Or if it's a bachelor party, I'll just ask "who's gonna buy the poor guy a dance first?!?!?!?" That usually works. I'm still really shy about approaching groups though, and I would rather hustle the guy in the corner alone before I try the big rowdy group of young guys.
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The one who makes the most eye contact and seems the most interested the moment I walk up. I also normally approach the most outgoing one because it's easiest to get a conversation going.
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I see some girls just slink into the group and chat up who ever is nearest and leave it up to luck. Instead, I like to approach the group as whole from the front and figure out who to sit with by who seems most interested in me. Usually their eyes light up, they'll be the first to say hi back or go out of their way to introduce himself. Or, you get the guy in charge introducing himself right away then directing you to who you should talk to such as the bachelor, the guy that's moving away etc. Even better with groups, use this technique but with some girls you are friendly with who are good hustlers so they all end up getting dances.
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I think one of the reasons I have a low success rate with groups of men isn't because I pick the wrong one in the group but rather because packs of men intimidate me so I am expecting a 'no' and they can kinda sense that. Wish I knew how to overcome this.
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Conversely the 'good hustlers' might not be picking the right one, but rather just being so confident and self assured that they are irresistible. In reality it is probably a mix of confidence and instinctively sensing which one is most open to her.
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i LOVE groups! i used to hate them because at times they are hard to crack, but once you've taken one in and give him the best dance of his life the others will follow..its like butter. its easy to see which one will be the most open, they'll say hi first and make eye contact and offer you a seat/ask your name/ or just look at you more than the others. you have to decide pretty quickly though so you aren't just standing there perusing the group and looking akward. most dancers also know which kind of customers favor her the most ( for instance, middle aged white collar guys are my prey, the love me) .
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(luckily) I usually work during the day or a midshift and the larger group is probably 2. In that case I approach and banter with both and then judging from eye contact, reaction to my jokes, body language and how into me he seems, that's who I go for.
After I dance for him, I wait a couple minutes and then I'll come back to the table and try and sell the other guy.
With groups, ive had the most success dealing with the spender or the subject of the party(bachelor/guy moving away...) that way, when the spender wants to spend money on dances, he already knows me because I've been chatting with him and will pay me to take his friend. For the latter, the same scenario can play out where the spender decides to spend money on dances for his friend and I'm already with him chatting him up.
If I'm trying to push the sale because it's busy and I have other moneyto make on the room or no one has proposed dances yet, then I'll usually just close the spender on taking care of his friend, showing him a good time...etc and that's often all it takes to collect $$$, especially when no other dancers have approached the table; )
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the one somebody else in the group will buy a dance FOR.
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group dudes like buying dances for their friends more than they like getting them themselves.
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lovelydancer
I go for the following - the geekiest looking, the oldest looking, or the most shy dudes I can find. :) These kinda guys (especially nerds) are right up my alley and easy money for me. :)
Yes. And the least handsome one. Or the nerdiest one.
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Go to the guy that the other guys are catering to. Pay attention and you will quickly see who is the boss in that crowd. He is the one with more money to spend. Never go for the funny guy. If you go for the "boss" of the group, even if he doesn't want to buy a dance, his friends are likely to buy one for him. THEN>>> you come back to the table and say " wow it was so nice of Bobby to buy you a dance, want to return the favor for him now? " 7 out of 10 times he will say Yes. Otherwise he looks like a cheap asshole.
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Am I the only one who gets the good looking ones who spend?
Now this only really applies to groups as I usually try not to go the good looking ones by themselves, but this never seems to fail. I usually go towards the end after everyone's been getting dances. I've noticed the good looking ones are almost always ignored in groups probably because the girls are so focused on getting the ugly/shy guys. I discovered this one day. There was this one dude who was so freaking handsome to all the girls in the club and they all gushed about him, but always went up to his ugly fat friend. His friend was a total ass and would get a dance or two at most but it was like pulling teeth. I was drunk and doing my last round and figured what the hell so I went up to him and he bought me out until the end. This guy was way too hot for me and I couldn't believe I was actually dancing for him as slim, buff white dudes don't tend to go for me. But at the end he thanked me for being the only girl to approach him. He said I was the first girl who spoke to him all night. I can't imagine being at the club for all that time and not one girl spoke to you. Lol never underestimate the hot ones!
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^ I got the good looking one to spend the other night. He was pretty douche-y at first as expected, but he softened up and opened his wallet.
Anyways, yeah there will just be a vibe sometimes. If you have no real intuition telling you which one to pick, just go for the oldest or the 'boss'.
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I like strutting by the group and seeing which one turns around and checks me out and smiles, that's usually the one I'll go to first.