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How Long Do You Chat With Customers in Free Chat?
Now that I'm into my 4th month of camming, I must admit that I'm not that fond of free chat. I've even begun to kick out squatters or just take long breaks until someone is ready to buy a show. I now feel that camming should be treated a lot like dancing in clubs. Don't spend more than five minutes talking to guys because they'll start to get so comfortable that they won't feel obligated to buy a show.>:( Even if they're the only ones in the room you can't really give them much of your time unless they have enough common sense to tip since they know you're working. The emotional vampires don't have that kind of common sense. They're rejected by society in real life and when they come into our chatrooms, they actually think we should chat with them free of charge every fucking time they sign on (thank goodness for the power to ban them).
I'm just curious to know how other models feel about free chat and how you handle it.
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If they speak to me I answer back. They usually get about four questions or statements. If it doesn't lead to a tip or private I just stop answering them. I never do it in a bitchy way. It's how I train my customers. They learn they must pay for my attention.
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I think most of us hate free chat. I just figure it is a part of the job. There are aspects to all jobs, even vanilla that I hated.. So I just look at it the same. I am gonna follow the advice of Baby Bunny above though and from now on you get four and then i dont even see u lol :)
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I find myself getting sucked into dead end conversations because I'm bored. I need to take Babybunny's advice as well and see how it works. I usually will talk to them for a couple minutes then I throw out my "Please take me private to see more" text into the chat. If they don't get the hint and either take me private or leave I usually start ignoring them or being short with my responses. I'm not here to entertain for free. It often puts me in a bad mood though.
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Do u guys ever say stuff in free chat like.." This is my job, Im not here to just chat"? or things to that sort or do you think that turns dudes off and you lose out on the moolah? I think when I have been aggravated by too much free chat I start to pipe out stuff like that not even realizing that I am lol. I just now noticed it so I am gonna try and start keeping track of what it does to the men. I dunno.. but just thinking about free chat makes me in a bad mood.. I think Ill eat some candy :)
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Yeah, I say that sometimes too out of frustration. I don't think it's a good idea though because we are supposed to look like we WANT to be there and ENJOY talking to them. Ugh. I ENJOY getting paid.
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It really depends on the night, for me.
Sometimes I'm in a chatty mood. lol. But most times, if it's just 5-10 guys who wanna talk the whole time, I'll say I'm only gonna be on for another few minutes- and then I usually get a private right away. If not, then I stay for the "few minutes" as I told them, and then I log out for awhile, like a half hour. Then come back later and hope I don't get any more chatty guys.
Wash, rinse, repeat. :)
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shysara79
Do u guys ever say stuff in free chat like.." This is my job, Im not here to just chat"?
I think this would be a good thing to say to the knuckleheads who go "Aww, you're leaving already?" SMH. Already? Um...dude, I've been on here for a few hours. It's not my fault that you JUST got here, or that you chose to waste time ogling me in silence...lol. Get here earlier next time! I do have a life outside of free chat, ya know!
And I've just about had it with that 'tattoo' guy. This guy knows me from when I cammed on Webcams.com, and I don't remember if he ever tipped me on there either. Now he comes into my SM free chat, talking about "Mmmm," and then a few minutes later he says "BRB" because he leaves to go browse other models...comes back to my room...then does the exact same thing again. I swear, all he's doing is room hopping and spending x minutes in each room, waiting to see some skin. Next time I'm blocking him from my chat, but not blocking him from messages.
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shysara79
Do u guys ever say stuff in free chat like.." This is my job, Im not here to just chat"? or things to that sort or do you think that turns dudes off and you lose out on the moolah? I think when I have been aggravated by too much free chat I start to pipe out stuff like that not even realizing that I am lol. I just now noticed it so I am gonna try and start keeping track of what it does to the men. I dunno.. but just thinking about free chat makes me in a bad mood.. I think Ill eat some candy :)
Yeah I told one guy that I love entertaining but I don't do it for free. Asked him if HE worked for free. He said "yea" I said "RIIIIIGHT..and how do you pay your bills then?" HE replies with "I pay my billls I just won't pay for this stuff"..BANNNNNED
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shysara79
Do u guys ever say stuff in free chat like.." This is my job, Im not here to just chat"? or things to that sort or do you think that turns dudes off and you lose out on the moolah? I think when I have been aggravated by too much free chat I start to pipe out stuff like that not even realizing that I am lol. I just now noticed it so I am gonna try and start keeping track of what it does to the men. I dunno.. but just thinking about free chat makes me in a bad mood.. I think Ill eat some candy :)
Yeah I told one guy that I love entertaining but I don't do it for free. Asked him if HE worked for free. He said "yea" I said "RIIIIIGHT..and how do you pay your bills then?" HE replies with "I pay my billls I just won't pay for this stuff"..BANNNNNED.... Then go take your ass to one of the million free porn sites to jerk off to becaues if you want to interact with me, YOU DO have to pay.
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A lot of advice about this here:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...e-chat-owns-me
and here:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ing-up-the-act
When Im on freechat sites I tend to do a version of this, 5x5 (lately it is 4x4) question/statement exchange for each. Ive started counting a begging request as an answer, so passive ignoring counts as one of the 1x1. Ill raise it for people who have been by before by maybe 1 each depending on amount spent.... but the ones who have spent the most are usually not in freechat for long (bless them).
Im just strict about the formula ending. Even if the room is dead or is a lurkextravaganza or the person is just firing a battery of questions/comments. One thing I added is the further along on the formula the person is - the longer I take to respond. If someone is like ??? HELLO? Ill just tell the room tthat Im available for privates and would love to [whatever, sale sale sale, direct or indirectly]. If you have the loungey type of guy who spends occasionally but hangs out in free this may feel semi-unnerving at first (and they may throw a fit) so it is up to you and your persona.
The tough part is if they keep coming back, I havent figured out when to 'reset'. I usually reset once every 30mins or an hour... if I even remember their screen name.If they tip I reset it immediately. If come by like everyday repeatedly for their 5x5 I usually make a comment/note so I remember to slowly make it dwindle.
This isnt for everyone though and isnt for every site. Some need to be coddled, some guys dont, some lurk forever to get a sense of you/your personality and wont interact until wayyy down the road, etc. But when Im on freechat sites or using freechat that's usually the method I use. Im not much of a showman or entertainer in group settings like free, and Im definitely not an extrovert - so I have to overthink how to mesh group socializing and sales. And this is the method I try to use and it has been pretty helpful. Hope that helps.
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I don't chat with my custie in free chat unless they have given me money in the past.
That is just the way my hustle goes though.
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TheBrownFox
I think this would be a good thing to say to the knuckleheads who go "Aww, you're leaving already?" SMH. Already? Um...dude, I've been on here for a few hours. It's not my fault that you JUST got here, or that you chose to waste time ogling me in silence...lol. Get here earlier next time! I do have a life outside of free chat, ya know!
And I've just about had it with that 'tattoo' guy. This guy knows me from when I cammed on Webcams.com, and I don't remember if he ever tipped me on there either. Now he comes into my SM free chat, talking about "Mmmm," and then a few minutes later he says "BRB" because he leaves to go browse other models...comes back to my room...then does the exact same thing again. I swear, all he's doing is room hopping and spending x minutes in each room, waiting to see some skin. Next time I'm blocking him from my chat, but not blocking him from messages.
Ha! Gotta love the ones that say "BRB", like we've been sitting around all day waiting on just him or that we plan on waiting on him, reserving a spot...
The influx of "baby, do ____ first and I'll go PVT" is getting ridiculous! I say "why, if you are planning on coming in to private anyhow, then you will see it"...DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..Do I look that stupid?
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I will acknowledge new customers, briefly answer their questions, and spend majority of my time talking to my paying regulars. The ones that spend the most time with me get the most attention in free chat of course. It sounds kind of bitchy, but its kind of like an earned right. But I would never ignore questions from potential new customers. If its dead, I'll ask them about themselves.
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When I first started I tried to pay attention to every guy who came into my room, have convos and interact with them all...even the ones who didn't pay. I had people who would literally sit in my room for hours when I first started and they stayed because I kept engaging them. I just didn't know any better lol. Then it got old really fast. Roast's 5x5 rule helped me SO much to not waste time on freeloaders! I still follow some variation on this. Some times I lose patience sooner rather then later though lol. There has been times when I freaked out on some dudes. My favorite line when guys are being cheap is 'You gotta pay to play. My time isn't for free' after saying that a few times they generally get the hint...generally, the ones that don't get ignored or booted.
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I chat with customers in free chat for about 5 minutes most times even less it's very easy to spot who will pay. The moment they start begging and being an emotional vampire like you mentioned or talking about how they need a free cam show since the their dog died or about me meeting them in real life I ban them.
It's in profile I don't tolerate begging or unsolicited dirty talk. I don't allow them to try to get off for free.
If I want to get rid of them quick I'll tell the beggar "we can do that in pvt" or I suggest a pvt show they usually run off quick.lol
If a guy is a squatter I don't mind if he spends when he can. Or if a guy never spends but contributes to group chat/makes it fun and is not demanding I'll let him stay. Those guys are usually my police as well.
I respond mostly to my regulars though and will briefly greet the new guys after that they need to pay to get my attention. They usually notice me cracking up and talking to my regs in pm on MFC and then they get jealous and wind up spending.lol They must pay to play.
And yes I do charge a monthly fee for them to be able to pm me.
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I know exactly what you mean, FallenAngel. I had a terrible habit of chatting with anyone that entered my room when I first began just to pass the time. I made the mistake of falling into dead conversation with someone last week because it was a slow moment for me and that person thought he could continue to come in and squat even though I'd make it a point to go on break or ignore him while I chatted with paying customers. So when he made a recent appearance in my room obviously hoping for more free chat, my first reply to his greeting was "Good morning. Are you buying a show today?" That got rid of him fast. LOLL
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I listed a fake country so I cannot be so easily found and now I get the people from this country coming to my room and typing me in their language which I don't speak and understand just a few words. What is best way to get out of this situation? Ignore? Type back in English? It's interesting how they tend to click girls from their country a lot more as the others...Probably because they think we will meet them in RL and hook up lol.
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amanda121
I listed a fake country so I cannot be so easily found and now I get the people from this country coming to my room and typing me in their language which I don't speak and understand just a few words. What is best way to get out of this situation? Ignore? Type back in English? It's interesting how they tend to click girls from their country a lot more as the others...Probably because they think we will meet them in RL and hook up lol.
Uh oh. You kind of got yourself in some hot water there. I'm listed in a fake country too but it is one where English is spoken in a large majority as well. I'd just ignore it. If the other guys question you about it say you only type in English since it'd be too much work to translate back and forth. And because most cam customers use English and you want everyone to be able to read/understand in your chat.
It wouldn't seem odd at all there's lots of cam girls that speak multiple languages who only use English for that reason. Constant typing in another language would alienate the majority of your customers.
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As long as it takes to make my minimum daily quota. If that's 2 hours, awesome, if it's 16 hey, gotta do what you gotta do right? I'm not going to die and I bet you my bills will be paid. I'm the type of person who uses my computer for 15 hours a day without camming, I know it can be draining to entertain but it generally doesn't differ all that much from me actually sitting or laying down exploring the net anyway.
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Most of the sites I do are token based, kinda required to talk doing those if you want to make money lol. So however long I am online
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ha u made me smile with "emotional vampires" because I call them emotional leeches :) haha and it is exactly what they are. I understand some guys want to talk before private and some go directly...but sometimes they really think it is dating site :-/
Besides, I like to chat and they get (as u say) comfortable and sit there for hours and just making me tired. I would talk and chat if there would be some benefit in return, at least small tip ! I am still learning how to handle it.... but how time goes I become less communicative (but not rude) so they learn if they want to get more attention or something they must at least tip. I am not going to just jibber jabber whole fucking day for free.
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MysteriousMisty
Now that I'm into my 4th month of camming, I must admit that I'm not that fond of free chat. I've even begun to kick out squatters or just take long breaks until someone is ready to buy a show. I now feel that camming should be treated a lot like dancing in clubs. Don't spend more than five minutes talking to guys because they'll start to get so comfortable that they won't feel obligated to buy a show.>:( Even if they're the only ones in the room you can't really give them much of your time unless they have enough common sense to tip since they know you're working. The emotional vampires don't have that kind of common sense. They're rejected by society in real life and when they come into our chatrooms, they actually think we should chat with them free of charge every fucking time they sign on (thank goodness for the power to ban them).
I'm just curious to know how other models feel about free chat and how you handle it.
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Depends on my intuition and mood, sometimes I will let a freeloader stay for a long time because he is funny and entertains me. Other days I will ban them because they have a stupid name. I have no pattern or formula.
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Me2.. it's a woman thing.. some days are more irritating than others haha.. I have been unbanning people since before 2014 because who knows what mood I was in that day?...lol... and I have actually made money off these guys who I banned since hehe
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hyori
Depends on my intuition and mood, sometimes I will let a freeloader stay for a long time because he is funny and entertains me. Other days I will ban them because they have a stupid name. I have no pattern or formula.
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hyori
Depends on my intuition and mood, sometimes I will let a freeloader stay for a long time because he is funny and entertains me. Other days I will ban them because they have a stupid name. I have no pattern or formula.
that is true. I keep talking even to few grays on CB or some "no funds" guys on other sites because they are polite and funny, I let THEM to entertain ME so I stay cheer up and not bored. I almost never ban people if they are sitting silently whole day in room but I am getting annoyed with (emotional vampires) guys who are "premium on mfc (usually with 2tokens...)" etc. and they keep talking sooooo much...(want to know me better, I get to know everything what they eat,what they read....) but they have that 2 tokens there forever. :-/ time wasters lol