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You sound like the same type of model I am and I can't really make any money on here either.. .. I am 46 big boobs, usually have blonde hair , usually fit with hourglass figure.. a lil plump right now., 2 adult sons, sick of the mommy shit and say so quit often.. can't do anal for the same reason... personality sounds a bit the same but I often get frustrated and complain about it. Maybe they really don't like our type.. haha... I prefer shows with men over 40 they are most of the time nicer and spend much longer in shows and more enjoyable to be around..
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CamChik
OMG Thank you for this!!! It is a perspective I wasn't even considering and I pretty much figured the site was run on algorithm alone. I may even be able to pinpoint when it happened to the day I had a mini rant about being tired of getting the mommy shit all of the time (I'm 42). I just can't bring myself to play to that fetish first of all because I am pretty sure it is against the TOS and second of all it's disgusting to me. I have 2 adult sons and just EW. Much less if one of them was to stumble across me doing the mommy roleplay I would be devastated....
I've also noticed that when my show starts quick (I have tippers right away) I end up having a pretty good day but if I sit, and it's quiet for the first hour my whole day pretty much goes to shit and it rarely improves unless a reg shows up. These guys don't realize how much we rely on them........ If my room starts out "hot" though I can still barely hit 100 (when it used to be 300-400)..... I have also noticed a jump in room count if someone BESIDES my regulars interact with me - be it talking or tipping - I'll get a quick viewer jump even if I never changed position or showed anything so I know it's not the thumbnail..... If that person stops interacting with me my room counts shifts again (10+ drop out immediately and almost simultaneously)... It's like there is someone sitting there controlling the gate......
I don't do anal (I'm just not built for it, I'm very small there), and I state that to the guys that ask for it and tell them I have nothing against it just I physically can't do it.... I wonder if that has something to do with it too?
I'm the milfy/cougar type - early 40's, good looking blonde with big boobs and have done quite well on other sites -WITHOUT PLAYING TO THE MOMMY FETISH or doing anal- so this is really confusing to me. I just go in and am myself - silly at times, good music (always get compliments on this), good at having conversations, chill laid back milf type (that's what they tell me) etc......
This is intensely frustrating. I worked really hard when I first started CB to get followers, thumbs up, and creating a fun atmosphere and growing my room - I was making progress towards the front pages (had been on the top of the 2nd page a few times) brought a lot of regulars from another site with me that SPEND and this is what I get in return?
Again, thank you for that LCChat - I very much appreciate that you took the time to write that. I am now seriously reconsidering my hustle (the one that has always gotten me to the top - WTF?!).
I just would like to see a level playing field and THIS IS NOT a level playing field if what you said is correct..... I spent a LOT of time browsing the front page yesterday afternoon trying to see what they thought was "marketable". Some of it I didn't understand and some of it I did....... I was shocked to see what most certainly was played as a pedophile fetish-towards the top of the page. Model looks 12-13 years old, cartoons on in the background, wearing cutesy pajamas using an OmiBod (those things don't even work LOL)..... And I watched her scoop up about 15K tokens in 30 minutes..... She never even took her panties off (at least before I left)... With the constant age restriction popups and the age verification process being so stringent this fetish being promoted surprised me greatly.
Thank you again LCChat - that is why I love this forum - different perspectives and models trying to help each other SUCCEED!
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I have noticed that chaturbate rooms' ranking can be easily manipulated. I saw empty rooms without models on the top of the website. And they last for long time with a lot of viewers.
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rorrosa
I have noticed that chaturbate rooms' ranking can be easily manipulated. I saw empty rooms without models on the top of the website. And they last for long time with a lot of viewers.
Right?! I've noticed this too - how the FUCK is that done? I'm guessing bots, but I thought their recent "change" was to eliminate the bots? I was using DivaTraffic for a bit when i first started (which CB advertises on the bottom of the page!) but stopped when I started getting really good organic traffic. Now I'm back to zilch and am struggling. I put in double the hours the last two pay periods for half the money......
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anonymous camgirl
You sound like the same type of model I am and I can't really make any money on here either.. .. I am 46 big boobs, usually have blonde hair , usually fit with hourglass figure.. a lil plump right now., 2 adult sons, sick of the mommy shit and say so quit often.. can't do anal for the same reason... personality sounds a bit the same but I often get frustrated and complain about it. Maybe they really don't like our type.. haha... I prefer shows with men over 40 they are most of the time nicer and spend much longer in shows and more enjoyable to be around..
The funny thing is our "niche" is quite popular LOL. I do really well with older men that have good jobs and have money to spend. I do really well with the "cougar" niche too so if anything these sites are shooting themselves in the foot by NOT promoting us...... I am constantly being told by these men that they are relieved to find a mature woman and not some young weird entitled brat LOL
I am really starting to get depressed at this point because I don't know where to go now that I can work my way to the top and not get fucked with by the site. Had an excellent run on Cams for many years until they started with the bullshit/fraudulent on their end chargebacks and pulling traffic at tier.....
Tried CB and am still there - did pretty well especially for being new there and was starting to get back to where I was used to with earnings and it's like they pulled the rug out from under me. I brought a LOT of spenders with me too.... I don't know wtf to do anymore. I'm just lost.....
It seems like camming used to be you would work your ass off and get rewarded for it, you EARNED your spot with hours put in and earnings (and I DID!), and now the sites have just started doing whatever the fuck they want and you can't make your own way unless you are "marketable" in their eyes, or they can maximize their cash flow when it's convenient for them and fuck yours regardless of how much effort you put in. The site makes money if I do so WTFH?
I've considered going indy but that takes a LOT of time to build and I just can't afford to take the time to build it due to my budget and having to put so many hours in online just to scrape by. I've cut every bill I possibly can, no luxuries at all..... I'm at the end of my rope here........
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Yeah, I've never figured CB out. Even now. If I have a good day on there it's because I got on early and a few really good guys, or long privates. It's completely random. The MAIN reason I'm on there is cuz I run OBS when I'm there & record most all of it for xvideos & pornhub, the traffic, I get a lot of traffic at times and I hope to lead some of it to my PH or XVideos. I've also started running MFC along with it using another laptop.
My main site is SM & if I make my weekly goal there, then I give charity time to the token sites. That's what gets me thru. Numbers mean NOTHING I've had over 2000 guys in my room and only $100 in tokens.
Like most of you sound, I watch rooms too.
There's this one particular model I watch. She slowly became one, if not the top room. She used to do shows, flash, then suddenly it's just a tease. She HAD A LOOK, hair, glasses, dress, shy nature and it never hurts to have a DSLR camera. She also had a modest room but would regularly fill up with over 20,000 members.
She slowly changed over the last year and her look and room, nature is completely different. She can't keep more than a few thousand in her room and her tips aren't near as much.
My point is, she HAD a look and style guys LOVED. Then she changed and I'm not sure she can go back, or if she even knows what happened. But I watched it unfold over the last year.
I think guys like a certain look, room, style, nature and men don't like change.
That's why another model I really like, kicks ass on there. Her style never changes. Her room never changes. May be boring to sit the same way, in the same room, in the same chair do the same responses to the tip vibe, but hell!
If it ain't broke don't fix it. ...and it helps to have a DSLR camera
ah...but Chaturbate is so damn crazy who the fuck knows LOL
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My weekly goal is on Streamate.
Then I'm free to give CHARITY time to the token sites and with no goal (cuz I already made it) I do
whatever the fuck I feel like. No pressure no worries Thank GAWD cuz watching one model do nothing, not talk, fake convulsions to tips, never see her tip vibe so who the hell knows if she
even has one...BUT what she does have are the RIGHT members in her room throwing thousands at her can really fuck with your head
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Thank you Jess!! I appreciate your taking the time to respond :) SM was my very FIRST site and I did okay but didn't understand the summer slump which is when i started so I thought it was the site - moved to Cams and started banking within about a month so I stayed there.
I may consider doing SM again as quite honestly public shows on token sites are NOT something I enjoy. It would be different if I was banking or at least making my goals (which had actually started to happen before this strange as fuck traffic change that just went down about 3-4 pay periods ago) but with what has been happening on CB lately it's just not feeling like it is worth it there anymore.
I actually have a DSLR showing up (a regular bought it for me because he sees the decline and is concerned for me too) tomorrow and got a new mic yesterday so hoping that will help.
Again, I appreciate the input, I'm just freaking out over here. It's a nightmare trying to buy a house as a SW and I really don't want to lose this house :(
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JessRyan
My weekly goal is on Streamate.
Then I'm free to give CHARITY time to the token sites and with no goal (cuz I already made it) I do
whatever the fuck I feel like. No pressure no worries Thank GAWD cuz watching one model do nothing, not talk, fake convulsions to tips, never see her tip vibe so who the hell knows if she
even has one...BUT what she does have are the RIGHT members in her room throwing thousands at her can really fuck with your head
Nailed it. It fucks with my head seeing that shit for sure.
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JessRyan
Yeah, I've never figured CB out. Even now. If I have a good day on there it's because I got on early and a few really good guys, or long privates. It's completely random. The MAIN reason I'm on there is cuz I run OBS when I'm there & record most all of it for xvideos & pornhub, the traffic, I get a lot of traffic at times and I hope to lead some of it to my PH or XVideos. I've also started running MFC along with it using another laptop.
My main site is SM & if I make my weekly goal there, then I give charity time to the token sites. That's what gets me thru. Numbers mean NOTHING I've had over 2000 guys in my room and only $100 in tokens.
Like most of you sound, I watch rooms too.
There's this one particular model I watch. She slowly became one, if not the top room. She used to do shows, flash, then suddenly it's just a tease. She HAD A LOOK, hair, glasses, dress, shy nature and it never hurts to have a DSLR camera. She also had a modest room but would regularly fill up with over 20,000 members.
She slowly changed over the last year and her look and room, nature is completely different. She can't keep more than a few thousand in her room and her tips aren't near as much.
My point is, she HAD a look and style guys LOVED. Then she changed and I'm not sure she can go back, or if she even knows what happened. But I watched it unfold over the last year.
I think guys like a certain look, room, style, nature and men don't like change.
That's why another model I really like, kicks ass on there. Her style never changes. Her room never changes. May be boring to sit the same way, in the same room, in the same chair do the same responses to the tip vibe, but hell!
If it ain't broke don't fix it. ...and it helps to have a DSLR camera
ah...but Chaturbate is so damn crazy who the fuck knows LOL
Ah, I know what probably happened, and it kind of goes into something Camchik noticed too. Think about it... she stopped doing teases, and her income dropped. People being 'nasty' with a vibe (e.g. all-booty, spasms, not talking...), people who seem to cater to pedophilia, dildos the size of your arm! I do want to quote something I saw in another thread, "I'm a camgirl, not a pornstar." I don't think that profit model works on Chaturbate outside what you can bring in from the outside. It's also, something with my research, as to why I picked Chaturbate. It's the place for 'free' hardcore. I don't think Chaturbate caters to the same crowd as MFG, Live Jasmin, & the ilk. Chaturbate specializes in straight up porn, and that's why all the front page content is surprisingly hardcore. It's why the users get upset if someone switches to 'teasing', they're there for porn. Age play, insertions, hardcore solo masturbation, couples... they're a porn site. It's great that they have a higher payout then many token sites, but it's not the classy type of place.
Oh! And no problem. Like I said, everything I say is speculation, but it's food for thought. ^_^
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LCChat
Ah, I know what probably happened, and it kind of goes into something Camchik noticed too. Think about it... she stopped doing teases, and her income dropped. People being 'nasty' with a vibe (e.g. all-booty, spasms, not talking...), people who seem to cater to pedophilia, dildos the size of your arm! I do want to quote something I saw in another thread, "I'm a camgirl, not a pornstar." I don't think that profit model works on Chaturbate outside what you can bring in from the outside. It's also, something with my research, as to why I picked Chaturbate. It's the place for 'free' hardcore. I don't think Chaturbate caters to the same crowd as MFG, Live Jasmin, & the ilk. Chaturbate specializes in straight up porn, and that's why all the front page content is surprisingly hardcore. It's why the users get upset if someone switches to 'teasing', they're there for porn. Age play, insertions, hardcore solo masturbation, couples... they're a porn site. It's great that they have a higher payout then many token sites, but it's not the classy type of place.
Oh! And no problem. Like I said, everything I say is speculation, but it's food for thought. ^_^
About the large insertion shit - I get there is a market for that, it is a fetish - all good there. BUT the lack of these sites keeping the rules consistent for all models is another thing that needs to be addressed. CB took down a PANTY STUFFING video I had up, yet you go on page 1 and there are about 3 models consistently shoving dildos the size of flower pots in their pussies and asses....... Panty stuffing was too over the top? WTFH?
The funny thing is there are a few models on the front page that do nothing but tease and you rarely if ever see their pussy at all and they get wonderful placement and room counts.....Some of the shows are hang out shows it seems too.... I do not understand CB at all now LOL My shows haven't changed (fuck machine, dildo play, squirting dildo, riding torso, etc.......) and it was all good at first now it's not good enough? I understand what you are trying to say about the more hardcore porn......
IDK - I may look into MFC again, it just sucks that their new girl status is only 10 hours. That's why I didn't stick around on there. That is NOT enough time to build a following where you can cover your bills - it's just NOT. If I had a few months to kill of not making any money while I built a following I would do it but I wasted that time on CB already and can't afford to do that again atm.....
It may be something where the newer models all have to conform to their hardcore porn standards and they can't necessarily fuck with their long term models that have a certain style that isn't hardcore...... I watched a model on her last day a few months back, top of the front page say she was leaving because CB changed something and she didn't agree with it. She got a 500,000 token tip, said goodbye and logged off. Maybe they are just trying to phase the more mellow shows out...
At this point it is all speculation as of course CB isn't going to come clean or show their cards so I guess we will never know the truth........
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CamChik
IDK - I may look into MFC again, it just sucks that their new girl status is only 10 hours. That's why I didn't stick around on there. That is NOT enough time to build a following where you can cover your bills - it's just NOT. If I had a few months to kill of not making any money while I built a following I would do it but I wasted that time on CB already and can't afford to do that again atm.....
It's 7 days, no? Anyway you are right because I started on MFC, then tried CB and those 2 are shit IMO lol (MFC being better than CB in my case). I still keep them in the background when I cam, because they sometimes gives me more money than SM but not always. When I see what girls are doing and are in the front row, I will NOT do the same (huge dildo, have yogurt type cream coming out of my pussy, etc). I just can't.
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MissAliss515xx
It's 7 days, no? Anyway you are right because I started on MFC, then tried CB and those 2 are shit IMO lol (MFC being better than CB in my case). I still keep them in the background when I cam, because they sometimes gives me more money than SM but not always. When I see what girls are doing and are in the front row, I will NOT do the same (huge dildo, have yogurt type cream coming out of my pussy, etc). I just can't.
When I tried in October 2017 it was 10 hours, maybe they changed it? And I agree, I am doing way more in public chat than I would care to atm and may revisit SM to avoid all of this nonsense.... It would be different if I could go in there and hit goal as normal I wouldn't mind it so much but doing so much for so little is starting to wear on me......
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CamChik
About the large insertion shit - I get there is a market for that, it is a fetish - all good there. BUT the lack of these sites keeping the rules consistent for all models is another thing that needs to be addressed. CB took down a PANTY STUFFING video I had up, yet you go on page 1 and there are about 3 models consistently shoving dildos the size of flower pots in their pussies and asses....... Panty stuffing was too over the top? WTFH?
The funny thing is there are a few models on the front page that do nothing but tease and you rarely if ever see their pussy at all and they get wonderful placement and room counts.....Some of the shows are hang out shows it seems too.... I do not understand CB at all now LOL My shows haven't changed (fuck machine, dildo play, squirting dildo, riding torso, etc.......) and it was all good at first now it's not good enough? I understand what you are trying to say about the more hardcore porn......
IDK - I may look into MFC again, it just sucks that their new girl status is only 10 hours. That's why I didn't stick around on there. That is NOT enough time to build a following where you can cover your bills - it's just NOT. If I had a few months to kill of not making any money while I built a following I would do it but I wasted that time on CB already and can't afford to do that again atm.....
It may be something where the newer models all have to conform to their hardcore porn standards and they can't necessarily fuck with their long term models that have a certain style that isn't hardcore...... I watched a model on her last day a few months back, top of the front page say she was leaving because CB changed something and she didn't agree with it. She got a 500,000 token tip, said goodbye and logged off. Maybe they are just trying to phase the more mellow shows out...
At this point it is all speculation as of course CB isn't going to come clean or show their cards so I guess we will never know the truth........
I don't much either then I noticed two things. Of the 'hang out' rooms I saw, I was a bit shocked the other week when I suddenly clicked the link for some of the rooms and BOOM! Free porn. Turns out the girls were truly only getting paid to hang out and get a little naked, but the users could also watch their porn anytime for free. It just wasn't anything that was particularly noticeable at first. (One in particular has nothing in her profile that would suggest porn other then a tiny little link drowned out among everything else that expressed, "Watch my porn!". That's the one that really shocked me because I did not expect it at all.) They do seem to be really strict that the toys cannot be 'animal shaped'. (Interestingly, while I've seen alien dicks, spotty dicks, and every other kind of dildo dick, I've never actually seen a horse or dog dick in any size, normal or large.) They also seem to be strict that anything that not a toy cannot be used. It's true I haven't seen cucumbers, sharpies, bottles, or anything else getting shoved up people either. (Well, I've seen fruit once, but that person had a new account shortly after...) Regarding the teasing people, I've noticed I few, but I've also noticed it seems to be hours on end of straight teasing oftentimes with fancy lingerie. Little if at all talking. Very little downtime. Hours and hours of, "Look at my body." It's very sexual. Like, it definitely leaves you feeling you've watched something very dirty compared to what I've seen on other sites. Kind of what you expect to find in a perverted yet surprisingly conservative 80 year old man's VCR.
Yea, I wish I knew what it was they 'changed'. Maybe Chaturbate just can't compete with all the other sites that exist for your traditional cam girl sort of work. Especially so many sites that allow much more freedom regarding who can and cannot see content. Maybe to fix this, they've decided they need to focus on really hardcore work to stay in business. I mean, I guess there's nothing wrong with that, and, for the most part, it's still a lot different then what you'd find in just some production studio flick off the net. I mean... studio porn is getting ridiculous. You should see the ads on certain image boards. It's even got the users of said image boards going, "What in the fuck is this even I don't understand why God?" Maybe Chaturbate just sees there's an astounding lack of... porn where people look like they're actually enjoying what they're doing opposed to looking to be in great pain, acting so poor it's like 'CHARADES: Guess what I am! If you guessed ' TSA officer', that's right!, or some other ridiculous oversight.
It's like how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? We'll never know.
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Giving this site another shot. let's hope the evening treats me well
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Do you guys know if they offer direct deposits to Europe? or is it only for the US?
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Still wondering what in the blue fuck is up with traffic on this site. I was on lower page 1, upper page 2 for a week or so (200-300 members a day) out of nowhere and NOW a week later I'm lucky if I can keep 40 members in my room again. My traffic has been in a consistent decline all week - WTFH?! I would really like an explanation for this. NOTHING CHANGED ON MY END AT ALL/Clothing/Attitude/Hair/Hustle - NOTHING!!!!! If anything my stream improved due to a new cam/mic and I bumped up my internet speed...... WTF CB?!
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they often change the algorithm. i had a very good last week, now it's so hard to reach 100+ viewers, but i noticed that when tips start coming in my rank goes up too. checked top page now, one girl has 100+ viewers and is in page 1 and other girl has 300+ viewers, but is in page 2. lucky regural top girls, they never seem to be affected with algorithm changes.
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Still wondering what in the blue fuck is up with traffic on this site. I was on lower page 1, upper page 2 for a week or so (200-300 members a day) out of nowhere and NOW a week later I'm lucky if I can keep 40 members in my room again.
How many models were on these different times? I want to figure this site out.
I've put it a lot of wasted time in on here for no money, I have yet to make payout on here. The traffic is there, it's the busiest most well known camsite today. I can see it in the top models rooms, but I've never had more than 100 in my room. It could be the hours I worked or the other models online. We cant hustle thin air. It should be bumping for ALL of us with the amount of hits they get they've got pop ups all the fuck over most porn sites. I don't know why this isn't the most bumping thread because this site seems to make more money - its got more exposure that is.
I don't believe in models needing to look a certain way to make money. I've seen so many different women bank I believe your look means nothing. You just gotta have a pussy
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MissAdriana
How many models were on these different times? I want to figure this site out.
I've put it a lot of wasted time in on here for no money, We cant hustle thin air.
I don't believe in models needing to look a certain way to make money. I've seen so many different women bank I believe your look means nothing. You just gotta have a pussy
Well said Adriana :)
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I've looked over my spreadsheets for the last few years and realized that even at the previous sites WORST I was making more per hour than I am now making on CB. I'm starting to average $13 an hour on CB and THAT is disappointing ESPECIALLY with the fact I am doing PUBLIC shows - SO, I am going to dabble with the old site for a few days as I have heard rumblings of a staffing shakeup and that things are changing for the better.
Hopefully the old site is back to normal or at least close to it. I could have done VERY well on CB, but I can take a hint LOL :)
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CamChik
I've looked over my spreadsheets for the last few years and realized that even at the previous sites WORST I was making more per hour than I am now making on CB. I'm starting to average $13 an hour on CB and THAT is disappointing ESPECIALLY with the fact I am doing PUBLIC shows - SO, I am going to dabble with the old site for a few days as I have heard rumblings of a staffing shakeup and that things are changing for the better.
Hopefully the old site is back to normal or at least close to it. I could have done VERY well on CB, but I can take a hint LOL :)
Well, since you disclosed it, that's just a little over what I make per hour on CB. I make 12 per hour. How many hours are you working? I've worked 37 hours in the past month. If I go more then an hour or so with little to no interaction, I admit I log off.
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Well, since you disclosed it, that's just a little over what I make per hour on CB. I make 12 per hour. How many hours are you working? I've worked 37 hours in the past month. If I go more then an hour or so with little to no interaction, I admit I log off.
I'm averaging about 50 hours if not more per pay period...... I used to average at least $50 an hour....
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llolllllll "when i'll feel very good you will see my wet panties" on the homepage CB HAHAH ) and pretends to have the pink thing in but actually doesnt? how can guys fall for that BS?
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llolllllll "when i'll feel very good you will see my wet panties" on the homepage CB HAHAH ) and pretends to have the pink thing in but actually doesnt? how can guys fall for that BS?
You would be surprised. I fake it everyday i log on.
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bigbum
llolllllll "when i'll feel very good you will see my wet panties" on the homepage CB HAHAH ) and pretends to have the pink thing in but actually doesnt? how can guys fall for that BS?
What do you think "Tip vibe in" on SM means when there's NOTHIIIING lol.