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What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Hola :-*
I'm so happy I joined this community because I found TONS of useful info around here about most of the sites I could think of joining .. but the question existing is IS IT WORTH IT?
To explain myself more - I am aware that thinking I could hide what I do for living by blocking my country is pretty much a dream never coming true, because I read a lot about guys posting us on porn sites and such, so I gave up on hoping I can remain undercover :'(
Therefore, if I'm gonna accept all the judging and possible prejudices and problems I will most probably face in future, I will do it only for the big money. To be more exact, I live in eastern Europe and let's say to me $500-$1000/month, would be enough to "jump" into this hoping with time I can start making even more. Guess I should say I am an average "pretty romanian type" of a girl and I don't have the porn looks and neither the movie scene bed, just a normal girl room ...
I hope you all get me, if I'm gonna be making the same amount I'd make working as a hostess or such, then I think it's not worth spreading my pussy all over the net. Am I right, girls? /:O
I'd like to hear your honest opinions I should base my expectations on ...:)
p.s. I hope with all my heart I'll join some more private based site, because keeping the attention of 30 guys to get tipped $3 is just too impossible for me ...:-\
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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hippysoul
I'm so happy I joined this community because I found TONS of useful info around here about most of the sites I could think of joining .. but the question existing is IS IT WORTH IT?
You tell me. Is it?
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Well..... this is a difficult question for me. I think it depends a lot on where you're from and your background.
Lets take my scenario: I'm from a upper middle class family so earning $1500 week is average....nothing crazy, even not a lot of money. My boyfriend is from a blue collar working family so even earning $500 a week with less than 40 hours of work is a BIG deal.
I could go to school and get a professional job where Ill make 70k/year or I could cam...
If I cam I get flexibility, freedom, no school debt and I don't have to 'keep up with the joneses' by buying expensive work clothes, a expensive car etc....
So if I cam and make $70k/year and save $35k/year opposed to working as say a nurse and making $70k/year and saving $5k/year yes its more than worth it.
*money scenarios just for example
So for me yes camming is more than worth it as long as I meet my goals, have a ton of money in the bank and am able to keep growing the vanilla business I have which without camming I would have never been able to accomplish at 20...
Note i didn't say camming is worth it If I make x a Month/week... It's worth it if I meet my goals. You need to decide what your goals are and meet them.
this is a question that each and every one of us needs to answer for ourselves because no one's situation is the same.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Hi and welcome to SW!:)
Check out this thread if you haven't already, everything may not be relevant to you because it's mostly US-related info, but you might find good points there.
Otherwise I think it's up to you. For me this is a choice I made, I think my place is in the sex industry. Of course I want to make $40000 a month (and who knows, maybe one day...), but as long as I make average money, I'm happy. Don't get me wrong, I try to make more and more every month, but for me it's worth it because I know this industry better than any other, and I truly love this industry.
I think it's not worth it to get into camming just to make quick cash because that can cause problems later on. I made my choice, I want to grow old in this industry if at all possible and in the meantime start a vanilla business and make investments to be safe.
You may think differently and for you it may be $2k per month, or $5k per month or even more to feel comfortable about it.
In the beginning though it may be slow (or anytime it may be slow...). You never know what amount you'll exactly make. You can (and should) have goals to reach, but maybe one month you'll bank and next month it's painfully slow...So if you ask me when is it worth it? The only thing I can say it's worth it when you're living comfortably and satisfied with your work and life in general:)
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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Originally Posted by
hippysoul
I hope you all get me, if I'm gonna be making the same amount I'd make working as a hostess or such, then I think it's not worth spreading my pussy all over the net. Am I right, girls? /:O
I'd like to hear your honest opinions I should base my expectations on ...:)
I'm sorry but I'm becoming increasingly annoyed by this mentality. If you have to put a specific number/price on what you're doing, then it's not worth it. Maybe you should just stick to what's easiest. But don't put it on me, when I'm working every day, being patient with myself on the bad days, and being totally happy with the fact that I don't have to leave the house, stand up all day, bust my ass for a business that doesn't give a shit how I'm doing or what my needs are, and still likely being sexually harrassed and treated like a piece of meat in public. What makes this "worth it" to me isn't any of your concern.
My honest opinion is that this job likely isn't for you. You'll probably get your $3 tips and never be satisfied or interested enough to put forth the effort to come up with an original idea to make any more than that. You'll either get bored and wash out or be one of the ones who comes back here over and over and asks "What can I do to make more money! I can't ever get past $XYZ! How do I keep guys interested?" Interesting women keep guys fascinated enough to make good money at this job. Honestly, you don't sound very interesting. Stick to the day job. Your shift is in a few hours, better suit up and get to work.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Wait, i can get paid to play Contra?
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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Originally Posted by
vivianbear
I'm sorry but I'm becoming increasingly annoyed by this mentality. If you have to put a specific number/price on what you're doing, then it's not worth it.
I agree. If its only worth it to you for a high dollar amount, then a.) you are taking a huge risk even trying it because it will take awhile to build up regulars, and b.) it will really fuck with your mental health on days where you don't make much (such is the life with self-employment).
From what I've seen, the girls who go into it with that mentality, are always the ones who get really upset when/if they stop making money and want to quit. Then get upset and start calling the entire industry evil and misleading for fucking over their life and future employment opportunities. This job shouldn't be solely about the money, you should go into it doing it because you want to do it.
Also, I want to note that placement is kind of rigged due to where you are streaming from. U.S. girls are placed the highest on most sites (minus UK sites). So your placement might be much lower than you expect starting out, if you are broadcasting from Romania. Also, you will likely have to join a studio on some sites because they don't allow girls from your area to join without one on some sites (money laundering they don't want to be responsible for, is a theory on that one). Not a discouragement, but just some things I wanted to note.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
^^^^ it's also those girls who cry saying the industry is failing because their new girl etiquette fell off
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
OP, PM me if you have any questions, I live around your area:)
edit: Idk, maybe I'm stupid to be patient but honestly, I did have this exact attitude when I joined this industry. I mean, what does the society, the media tell you? If you're gullible like I've been, you do expect the big money right away and you do think you'll be on top of the world after two months of sex work. I don't blame anyone for thinking like this. To everyone else, kudos, it's great that you haven't been naive enough to fall for it in the beginning:) And if she/he's a troll, well, it's always a possibility here!
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
The answer to this question is entirely personal. None of us can tell you what will equate to "worth it" for you or anyone else.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Hmm. When I first started in the sex industry I asked a similar question. Is it worth it, well only if I make X amount of dollars I thought. That was back in the 90's. I got in and discovered that I loved lots of things about working the industry. I have been around for quite sometime so it is possible that a person's mentality can change. Granted attitudes were even worse when I started but I think some people who are now vets got into this for the "wrong" and discovered they loved other aspects of it. Just as girls who come into this with a love of the job and great creativity can get burned out.
People do things for many different reasons.
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Originally Posted by
vivianbear
I'm sorry but I'm becoming increasingly annoyed by this mentality. If you have to put a specific number/price on what you're doing, then it's not worth it. Maybe you should just stick to what's easiest. But don't put it on me, when I'm working every day, being patient with myself on the bad days, and being totally happy with the fact that I don't have to leave the house, stand up all day, bust my ass for a business that doesn't give a shit how I'm doing or what my needs are, and still likely being sexually harrassed and treated like a piece of meat in public. What makes this "worth it" to me isn't any of your concern.
My honest opinion is that this job likely isn't for you. You'll probably get your $3 tips and never be satisfied or interested enough to put forth the effort to come up with an original idea to make any more than that. You'll either get bored and wash out or be one of the ones who comes back here over and over and asks "What can I do to make more money! I can't ever get past $XYZ! How do I keep guys interested?" Interesting women keep guys fascinated enough to make good money at this job. Honestly, you don't sound very interesting. Stick to the day job. Your shift is in a few hours, better suit up and get to work.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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TrixieDarling
The answer to this question is entirely personal. None of us can tell you what will equate to "worth it" for you or anyone else.
OP, I would also look at WHY you are asking us that question. Are you asking because you just found out about camming and know nothing about it + are genuinely curious? Or are you asking because you already know you don't want to take the risk of camming (it limits future careers and can wreak havoc on your family/friend/home life), and you want someone to talk you into doing it?
Everyone on this board will obviously be very biased about camming because all of us still cam, so we definitely cannot answer or help with the answer to that question since you are talking to a biased group of people. And also, that is a decision you need to make for yourself.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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CarmenF
Smells like troll
No, it's the lazy, same-'ol-same-'ol, where she knows she wants money but she doesn't want to work that hard for it or think outside the box enough to adjust to her own needs. Those of us who do this work and don't end up plastered all over tube sites word hard to avoid that scenario. That's very real, intellectual, strategic work that we come up with. She wants it all spelled and mapped out for her.
Sink or swim, I say.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
You have to decide if the potential risks outweigh the potential benefits and that is something only you can answer. Worth is personal and subjective. Also remember there are no guarantees of those rewards or that you will feel it's worth it even if you get what you want. this something you have to figure out for yourself and even then it's still not a certainty.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Sweety you can pm me to whenever you want to or whenever a question comes up to ur mind!
I live in Hungary so I know exactly what u talkin about. The decision is always hard. I worked with tons of models and they all had the same issue...is it worth it and what id I get caught?
But the ones who eventually started camming are still in this industry because they simply fell in love with it.
Best of luck girl and if you need any advice PM Claudia or me!
Claudia sweety I ove your attitude! Muahhh
PS. I love everyone here and I think I tried to help whenever someone asked me for help, but I feel so sad about the fact the some people are so judgemental.
I cant change the place where I was bornt.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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EphemeronXOXO
PS. I love everyone here and I think I tried to help whenever someone asked me for help, but I feel so sad about the fact the some people are so judgemental.
I cant change the place where I was bornt.
I am so confused right now! Just to clarify, are you saying that you think the reason that some of us are not spoon feeding the original OP easy to digest answers is because we don't like the place she was born?
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
I understand your main problem. But this is not the first thread where I ran into things like judging someone on the place she was born in. ( yes im not native sorry if I write something wrong)
And even though it is not directly for me it can hurt me like crazy. Im sorry I am a sensitive person. I cant do anything about it. and since this is a forum where we can share our thoughts i think i did not hurt anyone by saying that judging hurts me a lot.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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EphemeronXOXO
I understand your main problem. But this is not the first thread where I ran into things like judging someone on the place she was born in. ( yes im not native sorry if I write something wrong)
And even though it is not directly for me it can hurt me like crazy. Im sorry I am a sensitive person. I cant do anything about it. and since this is a forum where we can share our thoughts i think i did not hurt anyone by saying that judging hurts me a lot.
I promise you that I am not jugging the OP on the place she was born. My judgement is on the fact that she is taking more than she is giving. Not only that, she is being insulting towards those of us who have already made the choice to work this job. I would of given the same answer to any newbie that asked the same question no matter what country they were from.
For what it is worth, I admire you for being able to speak more than one language. It is a skill that despite my efforts I've never have acquire.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Thank you so much that you are this nice to me. Really. But I wasn`t talking about you I just replied to you because you thought that I maybe thought that you were jusging. But I don`t. This thread was like the 10th or 15th where I saw posts by veteran members where they actually judge by nationality. And I just cannot stand that. I am a sensitive person. Even I should say extremely sensitive. Maybe that`s why posts like I saw here can hurt that much.
I think there is always a way to say your opinion in a poite way even if that is not a compliment at all. I can try 2 things. I should try resisting to read threads. - which is basically impossible because i am just too curious - or I can try to fight back.
Personally I fell in love with camming back in 2006. And I cannot imagine to do some other thing.
And I just wanna say thank you again for being kind to me.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
OP- Camming is a job. A job that requires an extreme amount of self-motivation, discipline, self-awareness, and initiative. That's the only way to look at it. When I started, I spent at least as many hours offline learning about camming and promotion as I did online. One of the cool things about camming is that you can give it a try in your spare time without quitting your other job.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Camming is worth it if it makes you happy and satisfied. It's not worth it if it doesn't make you happy or satisfied. While money is a factor in that, it's certainly not the only factor. It's pretty simple but also very individual.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
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EphemeronXOXO
And I just wanna say thank you again for being kind to me.
Anytime, sunshine. You deserve kindness. It makes my heart hurt to know that people have been cruel to you because of the country you were born in. That just isn't fair.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
If the OP's question is serious, and is leading to trying to define an equation to determine whether or not currently available levels of camming income are 'worth it', I offer the following ...
It is IMPOSSIBLE to define such an equation, because the future risk factors involved ... and the potential financial ramifications of those future risk factors ... remains undefined.
Or put another way, it is unknown what sort of future financial effects may stem from doing cam work today. Will improved image recognition software immediately inform every prospective straight job employer 5-10 years from now that a job applicant has a history of adult industry work ? Will another generation of Patriot Act like legal changes, in combination with increased creation and use of shared databases, allow every prospective employer to obtain an in-depth background check on every job applicant at a very low cost ?
Keep in mind that 5-10 years ago there was NO official reporting of camming income via 1099's while today virtually every adult webcam host must provide 1099's. 5-10 years ago prospective employers seldom requested IRS disclosure forms from job applicants ( limited to highly sensitive professions ) where today it is becoming commonplace.
My point of course is that the internet is 'forever'. Thus something appearing on the internet today may very well remain accessible for decades. And, for better or worse, we have no way of knowing how the negative consequences of having created adult internet content may change as time goes by !!!
If one assumes that opening the Pandora's Box of creating adult internet content via camming will have negative future consequences on straight job opportunities, then today's simplistic equation of trying to compare current year camming income potential with current year income potential of a straight job no longer covers the full economic ramifications. If there will be negative future consequences, besides comparing the difference in current year income potential it also becomes necessary to compare the probable difference in future year income potential if a camming based history of adult industry work prevents the camgirl from being hired for the most lucrative straight jobs for the rest of her life.
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Re: What amount of camming money is worth all the "contras" of this job? #newbiebaby
Omg Im so silly lol:) You`re words meant a lot to me!!! damn those tears!!!
Thank you thank you Thank you! <3<3<3
You are one of the girls I truly admire! And I know I should care about the majority! That you girls here were nice to me!
And dont even listen to bullies. You know Im not that young, 27 actually but i think my childish part will make me say it: I dont know what makes people to be so rude. ( And this is not the only topic where I saw the hurtful things! SW is the best place for a camgirl to share experiences with others and simply share secrets which she cannot share with others. This place should be like a SAFE PLACE!)
And again thousand times thank you!!!!!