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The "Streamate Agreement Terms," identity rights
Hey, there! I'm new to the world of camming, and I decided to try Streamate first, partly because it's what most of the girls here seem to use.
So, I'm in the sign-up process, and I'm looking through the "Streamate agreement terms" (I'm using scare quotes because of how vague that is), and I see this (emphasis mine):
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Performer/Studio grants to Streamates, its employees, agents, representatives, contractors, successors, and assigns the perpetual, irrevocable, fully paid, royalty-free, universal and unconditional right to: (a) use, simulate, portray, publish, copy, distribute, perform, display and generally exploit Performer/Studio’s identity, name, fictional names (if any), voice, signature, photograph, words, images, personality or other likeness (“Publicity Rights”); and (b) subject to paragraph “a” immediately copy, distribute, perform, display, and create derivative works from any copyright protected works or materials developed or created by Performer/Studio, based in whole or in part on, or arising from or related to the Publicity Rights, for advertising, distribution, marketing, promotion, publicity, sales or any other lawful commercial or noncommercial purpose, in any form or manner, in whole or in part, in any electronic or non-electronic medium now known or later devised.
Now, I could accept that, as a camgirl, everyone I know will eventually find out (it won't shock anyone, since I'm kind of shameless in real life). I'm a little worried, though, with the idea of the company being able to do anything they want with my real or professional identity, forever, long after I've moved on from being a sex-industry rookie. (I once read of a porn star who had a sex doll made of her, without her getting any revenue from its sales, because of a clause in her contract; that cautionary tale always sticks in my mind before I ever sign an industry contract.)
Is this standard? Is it exceptional? Will I have to live in a future of shelves of "Ruthless Pink" bobble-head dolls, taunting my failure to read the contract carefully enough?
I should probably also start a thread about what service I should go with in general, too, so I can explain a bit more of my situation. Anyway, thanks for any input. This seems like a really nice community.
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Every single cam site is going to have something similar in their performer agreement. It's standard in this industry and there's nothing you can do to get around it, other than don't become a cam performer.
It just basically means that they have the right to your content that you stream to their servers, even after you quit camming. There won't be any bobble heads of you any time soon. ;)
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Yup...SM expect you to sell your soul to them, they even own your cam name when you sign up. Adultwork are not so draconian but they don't have the same level of traffic.
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It's standard. They can record you and later if they want they can sell the videos however they feel. I don't personally sweat it much. If my short private clip with some random guy gets on a dvd or whatever, the chances of someone I personally know buying that DVD over the millions of DVD's that are out there is pretty slim. And if they do...well I hope they realize how hot my body is/was depending on how old I am at the time.
Most of us aren't so great that we will end up having our faces plastered all over. Most of us are average. I mean, maybe they would use you in an ad on a porn site or something, maybe. There's thousands of cam girls, just think about the statistics and then re evaluate any paranoia you may have.
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On average I DMCA a minimum of 2 times a month.
Usually its a customer that recorded it
SM is a little more tactful, they use it for promo, not to piss us off
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temptingmodel
On average I DMCA a minimum of 2 times a month.
Usually its a customer that recorded it
SM is a little more tactful, they use it for promo, not to piss us off
Where are you even finding your videos? I have nothing on major tube sites, that I have found. But I don't even look really. I have google alerts set up to show my real name for professional purposes. Nothing so far has turned up except that supposedly somewhere in Texas a person with my name robbed a liquor store and is now being indicted.
I also google alert my cam name but nothing is out there.
And what are these customers recording for and uploading for? Are they gold shows? Was it from Streamate or some other site?
I may be wrong, but I was thinking that the lower you charge the more likely someone is to record you because the people who record videos and upload them to these file sharing sites or swapping sites are less likely to pay a lot of money and spend a lot of time in a private session. They may record you for personal use, but do you get what I mean by that? That's one of the many reasons I set my rates high, to deter immature people and get people who want to be there, who want to spend time with me and do the cam thing, and not just record as many women as possible and share with their buddies. Most of my pvts are return and we spend lots of time talking.
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cammodel
Where are you even finding your videos? I have nothing on major tube sites, that I have found. But I don't even look really. I have google alerts set up to show my real name for professional purposes. Nothing so far has turned up except that supposedly somewhere in Texas a person with my name robbed a liquor store and is now being indicted.
I also google alert my cam name but nothing is out there.
And what are these customers recording for and uploading for? Are they gold shows? Was it from Streamate or some other site?
that is funny I couldnt help but laugh. Dont go to Texas ;)
Google my name and they pop up. I set up for google alert and never alerted. I check weekly by myself. I use different browsers etc to make sure I try to get everything
All SM SHOWS, one was a affiliate that recorded my whole night , my countdowns to free etc. A few hours, it was funny but NOT. I knew it was a affiliate bc no one has access to privates and so on unless it is them. We still dot know the affliliate but it was done , my whole night. Funny to see what we do when ppl log off and the countdown is going , I had to laugh at myself.
others are customers, they have their own forums for this, one affiliate advertises how to record us, sad but true I will not say out here who it is bc "fans" read this
Cple years ago they used phones to record but as we upgrade so do they.
They are privates and Gold shows.
You know SM didnt post it when the "poster" keeps the music , SM makes it silent if music is in the back so they can re broadcast
sometimes these guys use different variations of your name. Mine can be spelled a hundred ways
They also threaten to upload to other sites if taken down, like upload more than one site, that is when it gets crazy.
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Not all pirated vids are under performers stage names. It is also likely you just may not have any out. The rest of your questions... probably not best we write a blueprint publicly, right.
OP, Streamate's is easily one of the most brutal contracts Ive read, it is the most detailed Ive ever come across - especially the name/signature part makes me go hmmmT. Well WebcamClub has an STD test 'requirement' which is omg but independent cam sites dont have these kinds of terms usually if youre interested in those, a lot of people work those sites specifically to avoid terms like this. Even some of those it is good to frequently check if theyve changed it, some camsites change / alter their agreements as time goes on.
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temptingmodel
that is funny I couldnt help but laugh. Dont go to Texas ;)
Google my name and they pop up. I set up for google alert and never alerted. I check weekly by myself. I use different browsers etc to make sure I try to get everything
All SM SHOWS, one was a affiliate that recorded my whole night , my countdowns to free etc. A few hours, it was funny but NOT. I knew it was a affiliate bc no one has access to privates and so on unless it is them. We still dot know the affliliate but it was done , my whole night. Funny to see what we do when ppl log off and the countdown is going , I had to laugh at myself.
others are customers, they have their own forums for this, one affiliate advertises how to record us, sad but true I will not say out here who it is bc "fans" read this
Cple years ago they used phones to record but as we upgrade so do they.
They are privates and Gold shows.
You know SM didnt post it when the "poster" keeps the music , SM makes it silent if music is in the back so they can re broadcast
sometimes these guys use different variations of your name. Mine can be spelled a hundred ways
They also threaten to upload to other sites if taken down, like upload more than one site, that is when it gets crazy.
That is just weird. Yeah I don't want you to say exactly where, honestly I'm not all that worried about it but I was wondering about it. Out of the thousands of porn vids out there it's like a needle in a haystack trying to find yourself. So then if you can't even find yourself when you know identifying information you can search for, it's like at that point...just forget it.
Yeah sometimes I google my name. So far it's just white label sites with my cam model profile. If it's just your model name. I don't put any photos of my face on my model account so it's like good luck linking my model name to my real name. I don't talk to anyone except like two people. Most people don't know me and I am not a busy body so I don't even know if someone in my town would recognize me naked to be honest. When I watch porn I'm not looking at the face. Plus, I sort of keep my face out of the camera in pvts and don't do gold shows.
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roast
Not all pirated vids are under performers stage names. It is also likely you just may not have any out. The rest of your questions... probably not best we write a blueprint publicly, right.
OP, Streamate's is easily one of the most brutal contracts Ive read, it is the most detailed Ive ever come across - especially the name/signature part makes me go hmmmT. Well but independent cam sites dont have these kinds of terms usually if youre interested in those, a lot of people work those sites specifically to avoid terms like this. Even some of those it is good to frequently check if theyve changed it, some camsites change / alter their agreements as time goes on.
Yeah I was just generally asking what kinds of websites. Not the actual websites. And why they do it? Like...what is the point? SM has a std test requirement? What? LOL
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cammodel
Yeah I was just generally asking what kinds of websites. Not the actual websites. And why they do it? Like...what is the point? SM has a std test requirement? What? LOL
Prob bc that studio was ready to fuck them (over) from the start.
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Thanks, everybody! Yeah, I'll take all your advice into account. I might go with a smaller place for that reason, too, even if it's a bit harder to make money (I am just a rookie, anyway). Oh, and as for STD test requirements, don't forget this: ;)
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cammodel
Where are you even finding your videos? I have nothing on major tube sites, that I have found. But I don't even look really. I have google alerts set up to show my real name for professional purposes. Nothing so far has turned up except that supposedly somewhere in Texas a person with my name robbed a liquor store and is now being indicted.
I also google alert my cam name but nothing is out there.
1.) Its likely not under your cam name. It could be under "blonde" or some other descriptive word about you. That's how I found mind.
2.) 99% of the time its just vanilla shows (however don't think you'll get away with fetish- especially on clips4sale because those will almost always make it to tube sites also- especially if its something more smutty like jerk off instruction or anything interracial)
3.) Often, you have to look HARD to find your shows on tube sites. Its easy for people who know you though. They will just type in what they want to see (example: big tits blonde) and if you are that, yours will pop up and you will have no idea that they were even out there in the first place
RE: The "streamate agreement" : The reason why we make the money we do is because we really don't own the rights to our content. You could quit camming and 20 years later they could legally use your videos in a TV commercial if they really wanted to. Its a risk that comes with the territory, and since you signed the contract, there is no way to get out of it. It is essentially playing russian roulette. So if you don't plan to make this a lifelong career, this is not the industry for you.
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GlamourRouge
1.) Its likely not under your cam name. It could be under "blonde" or some other descriptive word about you. That's how I found mind.
2.) 99% of the time its just vanilla shows (however don't think you'll get away with fetish- especially on clips4sale because those will almost always make it to tube sites also- especially if its something more smutty like jerk off instruction or anything interracial)
3.) Often, you have to look HARD to find your shows on tube sites. Its easy for people who know you though. They will just type in what they want to see (example: big tits blonde) and if you are that, yours will pop up and you will have no idea that they were even out there in the first place
RE: The "streamate agreement" : The reason why we make the money we do is because we really don't own the rights to our content. You could quit camming and 20 years later they could legally use your videos in a TV commercial if they really wanted to. Its a risk that comes with the territory, and since you signed the contract, there is no way to get out of it. It is essentially playing russian roulette. So if you don't plan to make this a lifelong career, this is not the industry for you.
It doesn't bother me either way. I was just curious as to how they got out there. I highly doubt any of my shows will end up in a TV commercial because of censorship laws, but hey in 20 years if my hot ass is on tv I'll be like "HAHA see that kids, that's what granny USED to look like".
It's not going to be a life long career, I already have a career. But, I just don't care really. It's nobodies business and as it is, everybody already makes something you do their business and says something about it anyway. My life is technically half way over, I have seen my class mates bodies at reunions. I'm just glad I still have it going on. And my co workers, the industry I'm in people wouldn't care, they would probably say it's my business. We don't have an "image" and we don't sell anything to the public. If you can do your job that's all they care about.
I hope it's under "brunette with a big round ass and purty tits". It cant be under "slut takes (insert blah blah)" because I don't ever take anything LOL. Interracial, yeah I've heard of those requests. I go ahead and do it. Anybody with any sense knows it's just a gimmick to make money. If they are so stupid they don't understand that then I probably don't talk to them and don't give two hoots what they think about what I do.
Ooh on another note, if a boss sees it, maybe he'll get so excited he'll give me a raise:) If a co worker sees it, I hope that bitch is jealous that my titties are perkier.
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cammodel
Ooh on another note, if a boss sees it, maybe he'll get so excited he'll give me a raise:) If a co worker sees it, I hope that bitch is jealous that my titties are perkier.
ACTUALLY co workers get jealous an boss' fire on spot (representing the company) kinda sad but again, another true story
I wish that was the case tho
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temptingmodel
ACTUALLY co workers get jealous an boss' fire on spot (representing the company) kinda sad but again, another true story
I wish that was the case tho
Some co workers are jealous no matter what. If you do your job right they are jealous depending on the job you have. Seems like in jobs where co workers are less likely to be well educated they seem to be more jealous. I have no problems out of jealousy from my co workers but we are all on level playing fields. Either way, I don't care. You can't be legally fired from most jobs because you were a dancer or you worked as a cam model on your own time in your own home. If they fire you they have to either not give you a reason if you are in a state that's an at will employment state, or come up with some other reason. And most companies won't fire an employee with ten years in for nothing because of unemployment costs. Companies that do a lot of hiring/firing are ones where they hire people either it's a temp job or they hire them full time then fire them before they get benefits.
In my field, it's very hard to find someone with education and experience that can do their job without any help. It would be incredibly dumb to fire me over something so stupid. Pretty sure I could tell my boss and my co workers that I made 150.00 masturbating on cam last night and their reaction would be "Where the hell do I sign up for that?". I work with the best people ever. There really are companies out there that don't care if you worked in the adult industry. Some are picky, like if you want to be a teacher and good luck ever being a politician. But some companies only care about money, and when you aren't trying to project an "image" and when people never see those who work for you or see the people who actually make the technology happen, they are less likely to care about anything as silly as if you make money shaking your butt when you aren't at work.
When the industry annual meetings involve cocaine, open bars and escorts, you will be ok. I have seen people in the industry come from China, one of the huge things they do is hit the strip club, someone from the office has had to go along to be a translator. Chinese guys coming over for meetings love American strippers.
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cammodel
In my field, it's very hard to find someone with education and experience that can do their job without any help. It would be incredibly dumb to fire me over something so stupid. Pretty sure I could tell my boss and my co workers that I made 150.00 masturbating on cam last night and their reaction would be "Where the hell do I sign up for that?". I work with the best people ever.
I thought I was irreplaceable, I still am as he will never find someone to do my gig and that department has lost a lot of money. A lot.
I worked with the best people ever as well, they had the same reaction.
Did they , would they? No
TRUST ME, ppl say and do two opposite things.
Does my boss still love me? yes he does. Its about business and the reflection on his company. Business is business. His high class clients would and where not pleased after it got around, all it takes is one person with a big mouth to whisper. That whisper goes a long way esp when its JUICY. ;)
He was searching reasons just for his own sanity as I do live in a state where they do not have to have a reason. He has a heart and would ever do that. Last time we had dinner together, he stated my place is still open. I said hold it for my retirement from cam.
in the long run I left bc
I will not bite any hand that feeds me ( he was great to me)
convos between employees, some of us laughed and some wanted to have nothing to do with me or my lifestyle
he would receive false reports that I cammed from my "office" that was wide open to the world <-- that stressed him
he would ask me constantly about it
it became too much
he was upset the day I left but life goes on, we are still friends
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temptingmodel
I thought I was irreplaceable, I still am as he will never find someone to do my gig and that department has lost a lot of money. A lot.
I worked with the best people ever as well, they had the same reaction.
Did they , would they? No
TRUST ME, ppl say and do two opposite things.
Does my boss still love me? yes he does. Its about business and the reflection on his company. Business is business. His high class clients would and where not pleased after it got around, all it takes is one person with a big mouth to whisper. That whisper goes a long way esp when its JUICY. ;)
He was searching reasons just for his own sanity as I do live in a state where they do not have to have a reason. He has a heart and would ever do that. Last time we had dinner together, he stated my place is still open. I said hold it for my retirement from cam.
in the long run I left bc
I will not bite any hand that feeds me ( he was great to me)
convos between employees, some of us laughed and some wanted to have nothing to do with me or my lifestyle
he would receive false reports that I cammed from my "office" that was wide open to the world <-- that stressed him
he would ask me constantly about it
it became too much
he was upset the day I left but life goes on, we are still friends
Sorry that happened to you. Some industries are different. Seems like you worked for a company where the workers are in direct contact with clients and your clients were a bit on the conservative side. I'm not legally allowed to even know who the clients are or to meet with them. And the company is global. I met my boss once, at a convention. I see his name on my paychecks, but my "boss" that I call "boss" is really a supervisor with absolutely no authority on whether or not I get hired/fired because we are the SAME position. He just has seniority and there's always a pecking order. To be honest, I don't even know why I'm doing my job. I know they are making a product, but I don't know what the product is or who company is making it. I only know that I look at something I'm given, I test it, if it meets the requirements I write it down, if not, I write that down, at the end of the day I send it in and I go home. I work in an office with three people, my supervisor included and we work shifts alone. I see them in passing. The only time we spend considerable time together is at conventions, to which we are incredibly drunk.
No, in order to even get caught doing something to get fired over I'd have to steal something, to which I cannot fit anything into my car, or fail a drug test which is administered by a nurse sent down from corporate. It's the kind of job where once you get it, you pretty much have it unless you, like I said, steal something, fail a drug test or blow something up.
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Dont be sorry
I love camming, that is my "im tired of the sex industry" fallback
this sounds just like the SM headquarters ;)
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cammodel
Sorry that happened to you. Some industries are different. Seems like you worked for a company where the workers are in direct contact with clients and your clients were a bit on the conservative side. I'm not legally allowed to even know who the clients are or to meet with them. And the company is global. I met my boss once, at a convention. I see his name on my paychecks, but my "boss" that I call "boss" is really a supervisor with absolutely no authority on whether or not I get hired/fired because we are the SAME position. He just has seniority and there's always a pecking order. To be honest, I don't even know why I'm doing my job. I know they are making a product, but I don't know what the product is or who company is making it. I only know that I look at something I'm given, I test it, if it meets the requirements I write it down, if not, I write that down, at the end of the day I send it in and I go home. I work in an office with three people, my supervisor included and we work shifts alone. I see them in passing. The only time we spend considerable time together is at conventions, to which we are incredibly drunk.
No, in order to even get caught doing something to get fired over I'd have to steal something, to which I cannot fit anything into my car, or fail a drug test which is administered by a nurse sent down from corporate. It's the kind of job where once you get it, you pretty much have it unless you, like I said, steal something, fail a drug test or blow something up.
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temptingmodel
Dont be sorry
I love camming, that is my "im tired of the sex industry" fallback
this sounds just like the SM headquarters ;)
I am most definitely not SM headquarters. I have browsed around on the forum a lot and I see a lot of things happening to people that are bad. I swear in two years nothing has happened to me that's been bad, not one thing. I think there's a lot of paranoia that if it happens to one person or a hand full of people it will happen to everyone. And that goes with every bad thing that happens.
It's like this, some of you sell videos during gold shows, pic sets, you have your own sites, and you actually take lots of photos of yourself, your face, etc and put it out there. And I would bet that some of you tell people that you cam. People like your "friends" or your family even. And family can't always be trusted, not at all. I'm not saying that any one girl has done any or all of the above and that is why she was outed or whatever. But, if you keep it low key, trust no one, you are unlikely to be found out.
The precautions I have taken is that I never put up photos showing my face. I don't sell videos although I think I will on Ifriends, but not of my face. I happen to be able to get super wet and drippy so I'll focus on that fetish without my face in the shot. I also don't do public nudity in gold show count downs which means that I don't make much, but i use it as advertisement to get people in my room. I'm pretty so a lot of men see me and put me on favorites because they like that.
I also don't tell ANYBODY. My marriage partner knows, ok because that's like a necessary thing to do and they used to cam with me. But they are my soul mate, and they always have my back. My best friend knows and she would never, ever tell anyone. She thinks it's awesome because she's a sociologist who studied sexually deviant behavior and loves to have me tell her the things I see. She wants me to write a book with me under an alias one day and talk about my camming experiences and then she wants to do her sociologist spin on it and publish it. I keep a journal of all the funny things or weird things I see. But I'm very low key, and that's how I get away with it.
The ONLY way I think for me someone I know, which is very few people because I'm a recluse, would see me is if they are on youporn and the advertisement comes on and there I am in my free chat, chatting. I am on page 1 most of the time so I know I probably pop up. But that's about all I really can think of for me. A random video out there, eh probably not and oh well if so.
People do need to think about what kind of job they want, though. Jobs where people serve the public or are in close contact with the public/children aren't good jobs for people with a past. And that's any past, including drug use even or a DUI record for that matter. I think a lot of how you will be treated if someone finds out has to do with how you carry yourself as a person before they find out. If you project an image of intelligence, self motivation, you are honest, a hard worker, treat people with respect, I think it will go a long way. The more educated a person is, the less likely they are to judge you based on something so silly as well. So jobs that hire the general public, if anyone ever found out, they would be hating on you so bad that you would probably have to quit to avoid the harassment.
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cammodel
The more educated a person is, the less likely they are to judge you based on something so silly as well.
Unfortunately What we do is not silly and very serious when it comes to outsiders.
Simply put, if they dont live it, they will never understand.
The more educated a person is.... means nothing. I know plenty of people who are "educated" and still do not and will never understand, they judge.
People judge, this is the real world.
I'm sure if you have read the forum then you see "sex workers" judging other "sex workers"
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temptingmodel
Unfortunately What we do is not silly and very serious when it comes to outsiders.
Simply put, if they dont live it, they will never understand.
The more educated a person is.... means nothing. I know plenty of people who are "educated" and still do not and will never understand, they judge.
People judge, this is the real world.
I'm sure if you have read the forum then you see "sex workers" judging other "sex workers"
Maybe we are around different kinds of educated people. Although I do know a couple educated people who think a lot of very stupid things. I am not saying what field I am in. But lets just say, my field requires critical thought, high math and science skills and the majority of us, and I mean an over whelming majority are either Atheist or agnostic. So with all that, I hardly ever encounter judgemental attitudes and most everyone is pretty open minded. Most of us are ok with gay/lesbian rights, women's reproductive rights, nudity and other very socially liberal things. But I guess if maybe I had went to school to be a philosophy major then I'd encounter some intelligent people that are completely backwards.
I don't know what society really thinks about adult work. To be honest, I think there's a chunk of US residents who think it's immoral, but a lot of things are immoral to them. Drinking, sex before marriage, tattoos, piercings, metal music, Atheism (which is what I am), etc. I think the majority of the US residents are pretty middle of the road and don't care much about adult type industries. It's becoming less and less taboo as we deal with gay rights, which have always been seen by those who oppose it as dirty and immoral, the same as other sexual acts they dislike when being gay isn't sexual, it's natural. Look at porn in the 70's, look what it had to go through in the 80's. Now today we have porn stars in mainstream movies! We have celebrities with porn videos. Jenna Jameson is now a household name. Porn is free 24/7 on the web.
Statistics show that the younger adult generation, people born in the 80's and 90's, are extremely likely to have right now, at this moment, naked photos on their phone of either themselves or someone they know. And they are very likely to have made a porn video. Craigs list allows locals to advertise for hook ups and couples who swing to hook up with people.
Our society is coming around. I'd rather be an adult industry worker today than say, 30 years ago. Used to if you wanted to buy a dildo you had to go to a seedy shop. Today, we have stores like Adam and Eve that are classy and cater to the average housewife or soon to be wed young lady. They even have couples toys and clothing. It's not like it used to be.
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I do believe they can't keep/promote your vids/pics until after your 30 day "waiting" period is up as you can cancel your contact with SM. I did it once under another name and checked back and all of my white label links were no longer associated with my name. However, if someone else puts it on a tubesite, or a white label does, you can't do shit about it. This is just a guess though and may not be the actual fact.
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cammodel
my field requires critical thought, high math and science skills and the majority of us, and I mean an over whelming majority are either Atheist or agnostic. So with all that, I hardly ever encounter judgemental attitudes and most everyone is pretty open minded. Most of us are ok with gay/lesbian rights, women's reproductive rights, nudity and other very socially liberal things.
We must live in the same area. (not work, I did not have a job in this area) One of the leaders in Science, Math , one of the reason I have internet issues is bc the tech world is my neighbor. Clogging up lines ;) overused, I could go on for days about interet here and we are suppose to be one of the top cities. smh
Very tech savvy and most are open minded. We might be neighbors, that would be awesome to have a camgirl that doesn't travel as a friend. Only in my dreams
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Re: The "Streamate Agreement Terms," identity rights
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kortneykay
I do believe they can't keep/promote your vids/pics until after your 30 day "waiting" period is up as you can cancel your contact with SM. I did it once under another name and checked back and all of my white label links were no longer associated with my name. However, if someone else puts it on a tubesite, or a white label does, you can't do shit about it. This is just a guess though and may not be the actual fact.
wonder if it does work like that.... hmmm , makes sense in a way.
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Re: The "Streamate Agreement Terms," identity rights
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temptingmodel
We must live in the same area. (not work, I did not have a job in this area) One of the leaders in Science, Math , one of the reason I have internet issues is bc the tech world is my neighbor. Clogging up lines ;) overused, I could go on for days about interet here and we are suppose to be one of the top cities. smh
Very tech savvy and most are open minded. We might be neighbors, that would be awesome to have a cam girl that doesn't travel as a friend. Only in my dreams
Well I travel, I just do it alone or with my significant other. I'm just not real social. Hmm...a neighbor cam girl. I'm thinking of my neighbors on cam now HAHA.