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Re: SkyPrivate New Payment Option?
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Originally Posted by
ashley.miller
For now, SP selling the tech to other companies is not affecting you. In the future i believe this can affect you in the positive way. because you can be available on skype (using only 1 plugin - ours) but you can decide to accept customers from other sites that are using our tech.
But for now, you can ignore this.
When i said "services" i meant these new sites that use our tech. (let me give you just an hypothetical example: let's say Playboy will buy our technology. Then you will be able to register to playboyskype.com let's say, and be online on skyprivate and playboyskype. and you will have shows from skyprivate members and from playboyskype members).
Does this mean that eventually I will be able to use the SkyPrivate & TalkToMe plugin as one? As it is right now I haven't figured out how to show as available on both sites nor connect the SP plugin to TalkToMe
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Hello, @Luna66! We are doing an experiment right now to see how it goes. We will keep you updated. Stay tuned!
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@superPookie,
Correct. one plugin = online on more sites. but this is not in the near future. will be later in the year.
@Luna66,
If you want some details about the experiment, PM me pls
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Thank you for keeping us updated Ashley. I appreciate it
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Re: SkyPrivate New Payment Option?
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Originally Posted by
ashley.miller
@superPookie,
Correct. one plugin = online on more sites. but this is not in the near future. will be later in the year.
@Luna66,
If you want some details about the experiment, PM me pls
I have two questions for you
1. Is there a way to create a profile that doesn't link to other models? Have you thought about hosting standalone web pages?
2. Why is the minimum so low? There are women charging as low as $1 on here! How on flat earth is this possible?!?
That's more like 4 questions.
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Really getting annoyed with SkP guys trying to scam me when I'm only trying to work for TTM... I'm not available but because the plugin is shared, they keep randomly calling me like they pay my damn rent...
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Originally Posted by
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
I have two questions for you
1. Is there a way to create a profile that doesn't link to other models? Have you thought about hosting standalone web pages?
2. Why is the minimum so low? There are women charging as low as $1 on here! How on flat earth is this possible?!?
That's more like 4 questions.
@PhatGirlDynomite!!!, what do you mean by creating a profile that doesn't link to other models? Please let me know so I can answer your question :)
There's a minimum and a maximum. We want to give everyone a chance to provide shows on SP and the models are responsible for the price/min.
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ashley.miller
@PhatGirlDynomite!!!, what do you mean by creating a profile that doesn't link to other models? Please let me know so I can answer your question :)
There's a minimum and a maximum. We want to give everyone a chance to provide shows on SP and the models are responsible for the price/min.
Is there a way to have a profile that doesn't give the customer the opportunity to visit other models on Skyprivate? Currently they can link on the Skyprivate logo and be taken to a page that links to live models. It's in the footer as well. The reason why I asked brings me to my next question about pricing.
Regarding price points, $1 is way too low. You have the ability to raise that across the board and raise the standards at the same time. $1 a minute is a cutthroat rate and it shouldn't be that ruthless. Those same BB's would charge $3 a minute if that were the minimum. BTW what is the maximum?
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Originally Posted by
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
Is there a way to have a profile that doesn't give the customer the opportunity to visit other models on Skyprivate? Currently they can link on the Skyprivate logo and be taken to a page that links to live models. It's in the footer as well. The reason why I asked brings me to my next question about pricing.
Regarding price points, $1 is way too low. You have the ability to raise that across the board and raise the standards at the same time. $1 a minute is a cutthroat rate and it shouldn't be that ruthless. Those same BB's would charge $3 a minute if that were the minimum. BTW what is the maximum?
Hello! Thank you for clarifying that We show new models to our members, their favorites(which they added to the list) and recently visited. It's like shopping from Amazon, if you look at a product, they give you some suggestions or similar products.
Models can charge as low or high they want to. Some choose to charge $1, some $3 or $4. It totally depends on them. We don't want to impose the minimum.
The maximum is $12.
Enjoy your day!
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Originally Posted by
ashley.miller
It's like shopping from Amazon, if you look at a product, they give you some suggestions or similar products.
Models can charge as low or high they want to. Some choose to charge $1, some $3 or $4. It totally depends on them. We don't want to impose the minimum.
except you aren't showing similarly priced models, which hurts those who don't charge $1 per minute as that is what is being pushed in the suggested model area. Why would a customer I pushed to my page think twice about grabbing a show at a higher rate when $1 per minute models are being shoved in their faces? I get that you're running a business, but everyone does better when everyone does better. This is becoming a more and more popular site, but if you as a model aren't charging $1, you have a serious uphill battle even getting customers. The fact of the matter is you already are "imposing" a minimum, but for anyone who can't get away with charging $1 per minute, you are hurting more than helping. I'd be willing to wager that if you raised your minimum even by a dollar per minute & showed potential customers similarly priced models when they looked at a profile, everyone would earn more. i seriously doubt those who are charging $1 per minute right now would complain that their increased income. Also you would attract more models who until now haven't signed up because competing with dollar per minute girls is a waste of their time.
as someone who has professional lighting, blazing fast internet, high end tech, a 4k webcam, tons of toys, and does a variety of different kinds of shows whilst living in a country where the median household income is over 63k, how would it even be possible for a model like me to be middle class at $1 per minute? That's like 84,000 minutes per year using your service or over 116 hours per month in paid shows just to be middle class. Rather sure that cutting that number in half at the very least by raising the minimum even by a dollar would make everyone happier. plus, you will have an influx of your target models who charge more and are pushing their own traffic to your site.
In closing, while i'm sure some customers will move on or complain, the vast majority will suck it up, stay, and in the end spend more. The site makes more, your models will make more, and there will definitely be an influx of higher spending clientele.
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Originally Posted by
caramelcraze
except you aren't showing similarly priced models, which hurts those who don't charge $1 per minute as that is what is being pushed in the suggested model area. Why would a customer I pushed to my page think twice about grabbing a show at a higher rate when $1 per minute models are being shoved in their faces? I get that you're running a business, but everyone does better when everyone does better. This is becoming a more and more popular site, but if you as a model aren't charging $1, you have a serious uphill battle even getting customers. The fact of the matter is you already are "imposing" a minimum, but for anyone who can't get away with charging $1 per minute, you are hurting more than helping. I'd be willing to wager that if you raised your minimum even by a dollar per minute & showed potential customers similarly priced models when they looked at a profile, everyone would earn more. i seriously doubt those who are charging $1 per minute right now would complain that their increased income. Also you would attract more models who until now haven't signed up because competing with dollar per minute girls is a waste of their time.
as someone who has professional lighting, blazing fast internet, high end tech, a 4k webcam, tons of toys, and does a variety of different kinds of shows whilst living in a country where the median household income is over 63k, how would it even be possible for a model like me to be middle class at $1 per minute? That's like 84,000 minutes per year using your service or over 116 hours per month in paid shows just to be middle class. Rather sure that cutting that number in half at the very least by raising the minimum even by a dollar would make everyone happier. plus, you will have an influx of your target models who charge more and are pushing their own traffic to your site.
In closing, while i'm sure some customers will move on or complain, the vast majority will suck it up, stay, and in the end spend more. The site makes more, your models will make more, and there will definitely be an influx of higher spending clientele.
so much yes in this post
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Originally Posted by
caramelcraze
except you aren't showing similarly priced models, which hurts those who don't charge $1 per minute as that is what is being pushed in the suggested model area. Why would a customer I pushed to my page think twice about grabbing a show at a higher rate when $1 per minute models are being shoved in their faces? I get that you're running a business, but everyone does better when everyone does better. This is becoming a more and more popular site, but if you as a model aren't charging $1, you have a serious uphill battle even getting customers. The fact of the matter is you already are "imposing" a minimum, but for anyone who can't get away with charging $1 per minute, you are hurting more than helping. I'd be willing to wager that if you raised your minimum even by a dollar per minute & showed potential customers similarly priced models when they looked at a profile, everyone would earn more. i seriously doubt those who are charging $1 per minute right now would complain that their increased income. Also you would attract more models who until now haven't signed up because competing with dollar per minute girls is a waste of their time.
as someone who has professional lighting, blazing fast internet, high end tech, a 4k webcam, tons of toys, and does a variety of different kinds of shows whilst living in a country where the median household income is over 63k, how would it even be possible for a model like me to be middle class at $1 per minute? That's like 84,000 minutes per year using your service or over 116 hours per month in paid shows just to be middle class. Rather sure that cutting that number in half at the very least by raising the minimum even by a dollar would make everyone happier. plus, you will have an influx of your target models who charge more and are pushing their own traffic to your site.
In closing, while i'm sure some customers will move on or complain, the vast majority will suck it up, stay, and in the end spend more. The site makes more, your models will make more, and there will definitely be an influx of higher spending clientele.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...90/511/148.jpg
100% this. Allowing models to charge $1 per minute is just insulting to camming in general & brings down the whole profession. Please consider raising the minimum to at least $2. The site would look classier & overall earnings would improve.
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Raising minimum rates to benefit us all... Ugh, it's just so groundbreaking. I truly hope that one day the idea is fully flushed out and observed by the masses. It's so weird that no one had thought of that before now? But until then we shall wait.
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Re: SkyPrivate New Payment Option?
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Originally Posted by
caramelcraze
except you aren't showing similarly priced models, which hurts those who don't charge $1 per minute as that is what is being pushed in the suggested model area. Why would a customer I pushed to my page think twice about grabbing a show at a higher rate when $1 per minute models are being shoved in their faces? I get that you're running a business, but everyone does better when everyone does better. This is becoming a more and more popular site, but if you as a model aren't charging $1, you have a serious uphill battle even getting customers. The fact of the matter is you already are "imposing" a minimum, but for anyone who can't get away with charging $1 per minute, you are hurting more than helping. I'd be willing to wager that if you raised your minimum even by a dollar per minute & showed potential customers similarly priced models when they looked at a profile, everyone would earn more. i seriously doubt those who are charging $1 per minute right now would complain that their increased income. Also you would attract more models who until now haven't signed up because competing with dollar per minute girls is a waste of their time.
as someone who has professional lighting, blazing fast internet, high end tech, a 4k webcam, tons of toys, and does a variety of different kinds of shows whilst living in a country where the median household income is over 63k, how would it even be possible for a model like me to be middle class at $1 per minute? That's like 84,000 minutes per year using your service or over 116 hours per month in paid shows just to be middle class. Rather sure that cutting that number in half at the very least by raising the minimum even by a dollar would make everyone happier. plus, you will have an influx of your target models who charge more and are pushing their own traffic to your site.
In closing, while i'm sure some customers will move on or complain, the vast majority will suck it up, stay, and in the end spend more. The site makes more, your models will make more, and there will definitely be an influx of higher spending clientele.
Let's go back to Amazon. On Amazon you can find premium branded products. While searching for a new TV, you might also see suggested offers for cheaper TVs. Sometimes those TVs are ridiculously cheap. But those TVs don't have the same resolution or features of a premium priced TV. The buyer chooses based on their budget and if they have any specific features they are looking for.
Another example I can think of is food. A $5 burger from McDonald's is not the same if you go to a restaurant and order filet mignon. Both fill you up, but one has a totally different experience over the other.
Some members want a $1 per minute cum show and some are looking to meet someone and have an experience. You can play a major role in determining this by how well you market yourself on your profile. Take a look closely at $1/min shows. Stasticially speaking, we can tell you that $1 per min shows have shorter calls on average and that more premium priced shows do better overall.
We have an account management team who is now reviewing profiles and taking a look into model accounts. We would be happy to assist you girls with this.
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Re: SkyPrivate New Payment Option?
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Originally Posted by
ashley.miller
Let's go back to Amazon. On Amazon you can find premium branded products. While searching for a new TV, you might also see suggested offers for cheaper TVs. Sometimes those TVs are ridiculously cheap. But those TVs don't have the same resolution or features of a premium priced TV. The buyer chooses based on their budget and if they have any specific features they are looking for.
Another example I can think of is food. A $5 burger from McDonald's is not the same if you go to a restaurant and order filet mignon. Both fill you up, but one has a totally different experience over the other.
Some members want a $1 per minute cum show and some are looking to meet someone and have an experience. You can play a major role in determining this by how well you market yourself on your profile. Take a look closely at $1/min shows. Stasticially speaking, we can tell you that $1 per min shows have shorter calls on average and that more premium priced shows do better overall.
We have an account management team who is now reviewing profiles and taking a look into model accounts. We would be happy to assist you girls with this.
Well to a extent this is true, you wouldn't say go to McDonalds looking for a 5 star restaurant experience or the budget for one nor would you go to the Dollar Store for a Chanel bag. CamModels are luxuries and as it is you are making SP a McDonalds. More importantly though low rate sites bring down the prices of camming all around as guys start to expect it and that is much worse than only marketing your individual site as the place for tightwads. Seriously a minimum of $2 a minute would make the site not only look better but bring in more money and at the end of the day that's what we are all here for. There's no polite way to say this either but if a model can't deliver a show that is worth more than $1 per minute than perhaps another career might be a better fit for her and there's no shame in that. We can't all be good at everything.
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Re: SkyPrivate New Payment Option?
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Originally Posted by
ashley.miller
For now, SP selling the tech to other companies is not affecting you. In the future i believe this can affect you in the positive way. because you can be available on skype (using only 1 plugin - ours) but you can decide to accept customers from other sites that are using our tech.
But for now, you can ignore this.
When i said "services" i meant these new sites that use our tech. (let me give you just an hypothetical example: let's say Playboy will buy our technology. Then you will be able to register to playboyskype.com let's say, and be online on skyprivate and playboyskype. and you will have shows from skyprivate members and from playboyskype members).
How far along are you now? It's been 7+ months since this was discussed.
And will we lose money like on the affiliate thing where i lose tons of money because they came from an affiliate link?
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Originally Posted by
ashley.miller
Hello, @Luna66! We are doing an experiment right now to see how it goes. We will keep you updated. Stay tuned!
How did the experiment go b/c I also can't have TTM running along with SP & when I tried to do it, it screwed up my SP for at least a week.
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SuperPookie
Well to a extent this is true, you wouldn't say go to McDonalds looking for a 5 star restaurant experience or the budget for one nor would you go to the Dollar Store for a Chanel bag. CamModels are luxuries and as it is you are making SP a McDonalds. More importantly though low rate sites bring down the prices of camming all around as guys start to expect it and that is much worse than only marketing your individual site as the place for tightwads. Seriously a minimum of $2 a minute would make the site not only look better but bring in more money and at the end of the day that's what we are all here for. There's no polite way to say this either but if a model can't deliver a show that is worth more than $1 per minute than perhaps another career might be a better fit for her and there's no shame in that. We can't all be good at everything.
Well put & I see you were ignored.
Just ridiculous.
I know the adult industry well, & you can't come back after the prices have dropped that much.
Same thing hapened in the escort industry.
Like you said, you open the industry up to everyday guys who don't have a lot of money & then this affects how the model feels about guys & energy affects energy, so it will flow all over the place.
I guess it already has. :(
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I knew eventually it was going to die down, but this is nuts. I don't think I've evn had a scammer contact me on SP in around 2-3 weeks.
Anyone else experiencing a decline?
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speaking of things from a while ago - any update on covering chargebacks for prepaid? it was announced that would be happening absolutely ages ago and I followed up months later but nothing since - is that still on the cards? is it taking longer than expected?
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ep2002
I knew eventually it was going to die down, but this is nuts. I don't think I've evn had a scammer contact me on SP in around 2-3 weeks.
Anyone else experiencing a decline?
yeah, for a while they started pushing new models at the top of the main page over those who have worked to get their placement up. then after (what i'm assuming was) a lot of push back, they decided to stop doing so, but at that point the damage had already been done to a lot of people's placement on the site.
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caramelcraze
yeah, for a while they started pushing new models at the top of the main page over those who have worked to get their placement up. then after (what i'm assuming was) a lot of push back, they decided to stop doing so, but at that point the damage had already been done to a lot of people's placement on the site.
So it doesn't self-correct after they stop???? :(
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ep2002
And will we lose money like on the affiliate thing where i lose tons of money because they came from an affiliate link?
Why do you say you lose tons of money because of the affiliate thing? You actually pay for a service, we redirect traffic to your profile.
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ep2002
How did the experiment go b/c I also can't have TTM running along with SP & when I tried to do it, it screwed up my SP for at least a week.
What do you mean you screwed up SP? Did you go to Support to fix the issue?
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Originally Posted by
ep2002
I know the adult industry well, & you can't come back after the prices have dropped that much.
Same thing hapened in the escort industry.
Like you said, you open the industry up to everyday guys who don't have a lot of money & then this affects how the model feels about guys & energy affects energy, so it will flow all over the place.
I guess it already has. :(
What prices are you referring to? If you're talking about the price/min, take another look on the profiles page. Do you actually know what's the best price/min on SP? Models with $3-$4/ min are actually having longer calls than the others
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PixiieGirl
speaking of things from a while ago - any update on covering chargebacks for prepaid? it was announced that would be happening absolutely ages ago and I followed up months later but nothing since - is that still on the cards? is it taking longer than expected?
We are only covering chargebacks for PPM calls.
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Re: SkyPrivate New Payment Option?
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Originally Posted by
caramelcraze
yeah, for a while they started pushing new models at the top of the main page over those who have worked to get their placement up. then after (what i'm assuming was) a lot of push back, they decided to stop doing so, but at that point the damage had already been done to a lot of people's placement on the site.
There was no damage done to the models placement on the site. We still have the same models that were on top before the change there.
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Originally Posted by
ashley.miller
What prices are you referring to? If you're talking about the price/min, take another look on the profiles page. Do you actually know what's the best price/min on SP? Models with $3-$4/ min are actually having longer calls than the others
To be fair that was always my experience too. I joined Skyprivate right back when you started and it was good those first few months. Then more and more models started racing to be the lowest priced, average rates plummeted to about $1.99 - $3 per min and it was no longer worthwhile, particularly for us in the UK who take a big hit on the dollar to pound rate. I came back a couple of time over the years and tried again and found the same thing. There may well be higher priced models doing well on there, but the first thing guys see when they go on the site is girls charging $3 or under. Sorry but that's just not enough per minute for a personalised luxury service like cam. It's actually around half of what many indie models now charge.