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Off Topic, Streamate Cam Studio's
I have been with Jayda Diamond in her studio "Camsharks" her husband and her blocked me on twitter because i asked if I could leave, she will not release me but she will be more than happy to treat me like a slave. She said i was not allowed to work on other cam sites only her studio. I make 32% i was making only 20% before her studio, but if she cannot get along with me ,then I dont see a point in having me in her studio. I dont make her much money, I try to stay with realtouch and stripping than make her some money to go blow!.
Liz on streamate is always on Jayda's side ,its like no way of getting out of her studio. Its like a horror movie.
Jayda and her husband are being very unprofessional calling me names via twitter/ text message.
They could just release me.
How can I get released to a new studio?
How long will it take?
Will I still have my name?
Will I be new again or no?
Please help me... somebody....
Thank you.
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Shit camsharks is the hardest studio to leave, I've been dreading someone asking how to leave them bc the 2 ppl we tried every possible method it backfired when they tried signing up again. One person in this studio has said it is impossible.That was a year and a half ago or so though so maybe .... I'm hoping someone who successfully left this studio posts :-/ sucks Liz backs her on this, I'm sorry.
I'd anticipate you would probably need to start over again as that seems to be pretty standard for accounts leaving studios and you'd need a new name. Not completely new like if your name is like Miss_camgirl it could be MissCamgirl as the new account. That is getting ahead of things but yes I'm hoping someone chimes in in time.
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should this be moved to CC for a better chance of a response? that sucks - I'm sorry you are in this situation - Princess (unhum) jenny ??
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Oh good call! Thought it was there, ill flag this to be moved, hopefully someone has feedback. We can try the usual channels, I'm on a mobile device so finding links is a bit tough but I definitely will post out some options tomorrow morning that ppl have used for other studios, who knows, one may work. Other ppl may post some as well.
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mckenna is the mod here - I would move it if I could but I have no power here ( just watched the wizard of oz lol )
i'm not familiar with camshark contracts - are they an exclusive studio of streamate ? If so I dont see how she can limit you working on another site . Most non-compete agreements for independent contractors are not enforceable if they restrict your trade in entirety .
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ok, thank you... i do hope to get more replies on this...
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You said you were making 20% before her - then 32% with her - I assume you were with a different studio prior to camsharks?
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yes. it was 2010, i believe i signed up with internet modeling dot com ,i found her on twitter.... then got stuck in her trap...
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yikes - they are pretty bad too - please stick around - there are a lot of great ladies here - hopefully someone can come up with something to help -
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Originally Posted by
roast
Ways Ive heard about people getting out of their contract is to:
a. [waiting game, highest likelihood of success] wait out the remaining months on your contract and then sign up directly. Minimum is 6months for most studios but 1yr is also common. You can work any other site you want while waiting, it just cannot be Streamate.com
b. [moderate to low likelihood of success as this mostly relies on CS inattention] Request a permanent account closure for your model account Streamate and sign up under a new email address and hope they dont notice (yea, not the best option). I read ages ago someone started a studio account on SM and signed
themselves up as a studio model as a way to get out of a previous studio contract but that sounds unnecessarily complicated and I cant confirm it worked.
c. [
likelihood of success explained here] sign up with PrincessJenny's DailyPay service (
http://www.adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/), click here for details on
switching .
Via DP your payout percentage will be 30% and youll get paid the next day after you worked, which is not the 35% of an independent performer who gets paid weekly but it is a big leap from Internetmodel ings's meagre 20% with no payout acceleration. There are no contractual waiting periods to leave or join DP, I think the only wait periods are just based on administrative processing. You would have to create a new stage name if you leave. There are many reviews and FAQs about DailyPay (or DP) in SW also if you want to check them out first before using this option. Just search "DailyPay".
^Wanted to add (item C) that someone I knw has a SM virtual studio that is 32% as well, no accelerated pay or any added thrills but she's pretty handsoff. I dont know if her studio would pass the due diligence test for studios that I can wrote out my referral is just "I know she has a low-fee studio" but I can check with her if she is able to help people "studio hop" like it sounds like you did from Internet Modeling dot com to Camsharks. She is based in the US (I think all of Camshark's models are). If she says yes she can help models studio hop, Ill pass on her info and feel free to ask her the questions here before attempting... and she may just release you after being in her studio for a bit.
RE: The DailyPay option. Id suggest searching the forum for feedback about DailyPay/PrincessJenny as well before trying that option. I believe DailyPay you can be released after a short period of time of being under their studio, but in each instance youd have to change your name: so to enter DailyPay (or another virtual studio), your name and signup email would change. To leave the studio, your name and signup email address would have to change again.
These options have failed for CamSharks in the past but that was over a year and a half ago and with a sample size of 2, so Im crossing my fingers. I do have to warn that certain studios are super insistent on retaining their models and watch StripperWeb to "figure out" who is trying to leave and are slower to release them because it. One person did warn about that when trying to have people studio hop into their studio out of another:
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Most failed app's usually come down to the member emailing Vanessa/Liz/the studio or one of the SM staff matching a username from a thread here up with a new application for DP.
So since Liz is aware already and this is the hardest virtual one to leave, it may be tough but fingers crossed anyway. Im hoping someone PMs you with a success story or posts about theirs though. There has to be at least one. I expect you may gt a PM about one instead of someone posting about it publicly though, so you may want to ensure your PMs are turned on?
Wanted to echo Nikki that you can work other sites as well in the interim with your stage name. They may flex and say you cant if they see your profile/stagename elsewhere but Ive never heard of MFC or some other site shutting down a profile under the guise of "Oh sorry we got a cease and desist" (with teeth, not the kind you just lol at and ignore) "from our competitor, you cant use this stagename on here, sorry". May be an interim measure until this is sorted to try other sites? If youre nervous you can change it by one letter or add an underscore or "XXX" or something though?
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Originally Posted by
CandyAnn
I have been with Jayda Diamond in her studio "Camsharks" her husband and her blocked me on twitter because i asked if I could leave, she will not release me but she will be more than happy to treat me like a slave. She said i was not allowed to work on other cam sites only her studio. I make 32% i was making only 20% before her studio, but if she cannot get along with me ,then I dont see a point in having me in her studio. I dont make her much money, I try to stay with realtouch and stripping than make her some money to go blow!.
Liz on streamate is always on Jayda's side ,its like no way of getting out of her studio. Its like a horror movie.
Jayda and her husband are being very unprofessional calling me names via twitter/ text message.
They could just release me.
How can I get released to a new studio?
How long will it take?
Will I still have my name?
Will I be new again or no?
Please help me... somebody....
Thank you.
Internet Modeling tells you that if you wish to leave them to cam with Streamate directly, you have to wait one full year from your last performance date on . I was able to get out of this by switching over to Streamate daily pay.
Thread about how to join Streamate daily pay:
http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/for...c.php?f=5&t=25
Thread about how to join Streamate weekly pay:
http://adultworkwebcammers.co.uk/for...c.php?f=5&t=32
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
tells you that if you wish to leave them to cam with Streamate directly, you have to wait one full year from your last performance date on . I was able to get out of this by switching over to Streamate daily pay.
^you left Camsharks or you left Internet Modeling? She left Internet Modeling for Camsharks and now wants to leave Camsharks
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Originally Posted by
roast
^you left Camsharks or you left Internet Modeling? She left Internet Modeling for Camsharks and now wants to leave Camsharks
Internet Modeling. For some reason, this forum blocks out the word if I type it out as one word (without a space)...weird. That's why it wouldn't show up in my post. But yes, Internet Modeling (IM) is what I was referring to.
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i thought anyone could get out by going through daily pay.
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I think you can get out of a studio with daily unless you tell the studio your leaving them for daily pay.At least thats i read from Princess Jenny's old post.
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Originally Posted by
temptingmodel
i thought anyone could get out by going through daily pay.
I wish, but no, from PJ:
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Most failed app's usually come down to the member emailing Vanessa/Liz/the studio or one of the SM staff matching a username from a thread here up with a new application for DP.
^So a bunch of DP apps have failed, more than has been reported on SW unfortunately, so DP is not a cure-all, PJ has posted about studio-hopping failures before. Camsharks is rough Ive never heard a Camsharks departure success story but who knows? There has to be a few out there but I think theyre a bit under the radar? So I hope they PM the OP. But unfortunately, people have been unable to move out of studios via DP, it really isnt a guarantee. When PJ was here they told me about ppl being unable to due to being in certain studios (Camsharks is one), physical studios, or they alerted Liz ahead of time (which the OP didnt know not to do that) or bc of SW posts. Some ppl have sent me msgs about certain countries having a hard time transitioning out via DP as well (esp if youre under Camreggy apparently? Camreggy and Camsharks have been on my "oh fuck" list for awhile).
BUT
if the OP hasnt tried DP, that is one avenue to attempt. Other attempts have backfired though, which is why Im trying to find alternatives to DP and multiple options just in case so we're not just relying on DP?
OP definitely try BrownFox's links and see what happens? Dont assume itll work and then be devastated, we'll try our best to find alternatives in case it doesnt.
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Does anyone have a copy of the agreement that they signed with CS?
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I did not look into this in depth, but this kind of workplace treatment, and even contract it's just so unfair, i don't think it would/should pass if were attacked in court. The problem is people do not sue in this line of work. Shame.
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I don't agree with how you are being treated, however the only POSSIBLE solution is probably going to be to move to the Daily Pay studio, and you still won't get the full 35% there either.
If you are able to just work, get paid, and avoid any contact with them, I would suggest just staying in their studio. It's better than waiting the year or how ever long to get back on streamate independently, and for only 3% higher. I mean we are talking about $3 more on every $100 you make, is it worth the hassle for that?
If you are being paid directly by Streamate (studios can have SM pay models directly if they are taking less than a certain percentage) and are not having any issues being paid, I would just say yah this sucks, but stick it out.
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I'm with CamSharks with Jayda Diamonde, she will NOT release me, she did take me out of the pornstar catagory for 2 days till i showed my FO's account to Liz. Jayda was kind of pissed... Her husband blasted me on twitter about not being a pornstar and being in that section... **odd**
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Different states have different ways of handling non-compete agreements - some states lean to the agreement if it is within that states guidelines - others are not as aggressive in supporting them -- if you are a true independent contractor and not an employee it is more difficult to restrict a persons right to work in their field - that is why I would like to see the actual contract and what state governs it
I dont know all of the circumstances of candy's situation but it seems to me their are other issues besides the % being taken - IDK
edited - what is an Fo's account ?
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I have a studio too and once you are under a studio on most cam sites you are stuck there unless the studio you are with agrees to release you. Did the contract you sign with them specifically state that you can't work on another site? If it's not in the contract then they are S.O.L. All the questions' you are asking depend on the contract and the contents in it.
Liz can't help, her hands are tied. Streamate isn't going to piss off their studio owner's.
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Originally Posted by
CandyAnn
I have been with Jayda Diamond in her studio "Camsharks" her husband and her blocked me on twitter because i asked if I could leave, she will not release me but she will be more than happy to treat me like a slave. She said i was not allowed to work on other cam sites only her studio. I make 32% i was making only 20% before her studio, but if she cannot get along with me ,then I dont see a point in having me in her studio. I dont make her much money, I try to stay with realtouch and stripping than make her some money to go blow!.
Liz on streamate is always on Jayda's side ,its like no way of getting out of her studio. Its like a horror movie.
Jayda and her husband are being very unprofessional calling me names via twitter/ text message.
They could just release me.
How can I get released to a new studio?
How long will it take?
Will I still have my name?
Will I be new again or no?
Please help me... somebody....
Thank you.
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F.O. is Freeones and you don't have to be a porn star to be listed on that site either. It's a wide variety of ladies from all walks of the adult industry.
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Originally Posted by
Nikki_Fox
Different states have different ways of handling non-compete agreements - some states lean to the agreement if it is within that states guidelines - others are not as aggressive in supporting them -- if you are a true independent contractor and not an employee it is more difficult to restrict a persons right to work in their field - that is why I would like to see the actual contract and what state governs it
I dont know all of the circumstances of candy's situation but it seems to me their are other issues besides the % being taken - IDK
edited - what is an Fo's account ?
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Originally Posted by
JaneBurgess
I have a studio too and once you are under a studio on most cam sites you are stuck there unless the studio you are with agrees to release you.
Imlive, Livejasmin (as long as it isnt a physical studio) and Cams.com are ones where (my understanding is) you can just close and restart easily without the studios explicit consent. A bunch of SM studios we've gotten people out of without the studio owner's explicit consent, the lower on the totem pole the virtual studio is the easier it is to do. But certain SM studios youre "stuck". Camsharks is weirdly one of them - but may not be if the OP tries out some of the avenues listed above, those are ones that a bunch of people have used plus on the "Avoid Studios" sticky there are abunch of success stories of people leaving studios. Im on two webmaster forums where people bitch about models leaving their studios semi-regularly, so it is possible to leave virtual studios in general - length of time, what site it is, where youre located in the world, and the tediousness of restarting is usually the hurdle. Some cases and websites it is harder.
I think it is getting harder for people to leave SM studios though bc the tactics are so public, but just wanted to ensure this is said in case people are reading this thinking it is impossible to leave any webcam sites studio. It isnt, but there are some barriers depending on a bunch of factors. Streamate, Naked, MFC, and Adultwork tend to be the sites where it is tougher and more 'creativity' is needed, other bigbox webcam sites it is easier. Camsharks has notoriously been the hardest ones to leave bc of refusal to release and the 'creative' tactics not working.
Part of the creative tactics includes not flagging it for SM that youre trying to leave the studio after the studio outright refuses to release you, unfortunately she did - but she hasnt tried the other methods yet, so we'll see.
OP, try the methods laid out first before assuming it is impossible - and read through this thread:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...avoid-studios)
^A bunch of people have left studios before (IM is frequently featured, which seems like youre familiar with them) so idk maybe. I think I even put in that thread a few times that CamSharks is impossible to leave, but again, I hope someone PMed you with a success story.
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Originally Posted by
Rosemary Rabbit
So...what would happen if she just said, "Fuck you" and left anyway? What would they do, call the cops and put her in jail and kick her out of the studio? I'm curious about the consequences. How is this even enforced?
If she tried to start a new account without attempting to be uh creative Streamate will bounce back the application and say she is under contract with Camsharks and refuse the application basically?
Honestly a few people have left SM studios by just using a new stagename, new email address, new pictures and not highlighting they were in a studio before - but that isnt the safest route bc they can shutdown the new profile at anytime.... and may be impossible to do if youre a pornstar or otherwise have a brand name ykwim? I dont know if your earnings are forfeited though so Im always hesitant to suggest this option?