Re: Livejasmin vs Streamate
The only way to find out is to give SM a try. I hated LJ! It was more like Deadjasmin to me!
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Originally Posted by
Bubblegum1235
I dont know if there is a comparative somewhere, at least I dont find it, so I would like to ask wichone is better for you. I been in Livejasmin for about 2 months, and its ok, since I dont have the better conditions to cam. I know I have a bad image quality because I dont have a good place to work in and Im using wifi still, but its not bad, im making about 750/800 per week working about 5 hours a day, 5 days a week. So my question is if in SM I could do it better, I like Lj but has too many rules, they reject me all my pictures (they are not that bad, SM accept them), I have the feeling they are always watching me, and they are going to deduce a 5% from my incomes for having a bad enviroment/cam quality. I would like to know about your experiences, if is possible to earn more in SM and if you are more comfortable there. Thank you.
Wow, making $700/800 per week on LJ is pretty impressive to me, especially if you have poor quality for your stream.
Wouldn't hurt to try SM, but I'd say you are doing pretty good already! You might be able to put in less time for the same money on SM, but you might not. You won't really know until you try it out. Good luck! :)
Re: Livejasmin vs Streamate
Personally I couldn't handle LJ I worked there one day and that's it.
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Lj requires professional quality photos and stream right now. I've been rejected 20 times. A webcam picture would just not do it for them. My stream and sound is also rated bad, when i talk in free chat, smile and know english well, and not just lay there. Though asking members about my audio and video, they told me they see me, and hear me crystal clear.
I mean i broadcast on streamate in HD with the encoder in the recommended settings and don't have problems, but looks like for LJ this is not good enough right now.
I'm not against a site making improvements, but this newly introduced rating "system", i prefer to call it scam , since it's based on the admin's personal opinion about your feed, it's very irritating, since it's just a way to take another 5 % down from hard working performers earnings. The last 5 % reducement was not long ago.
Requiring top notch quality feed, and in the same time making up rules for taking away earnings, it's not cool livejasmin!!!
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Originally Posted by
Busygirl
Lj requires professional quality photos and stream right now. I've been rejected 20 times. A webcam picture would just not do it for them. My stream and sound is also rated bad, when i talk in free chat, smile and know english well, and not just lay there. Though asking members about my audio and video, they told me they see me, and hear me crystal clear.
I mean i broadcast on streamate in HD with the encoder in the recommended settings and don't have problems, but looks like for LJ this is not good enough right now.
I'm not against a site making improvements, but this newly introduced rating "system", i prefer to call it scam , since it's based on the admin's personal opinion about your feed, it's very irritating, since it's just a way to take another 5 % down from hard working performers earnings. The last 5 % reducement was not long ago.
Requiring top notch quality feed, and in the same time making up rules for taking away earnings, it's not cool livejasmin!!!
Thats so true. Thank you all for the answers. I will finish the period, and then try SM. I did take the professional pictures anyway, because I can use them for other sites for example, but im sure there will be another issue to keep deducting money :P
Re: Livejasmin vs Streamate
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Originally Posted by
Busygirl
Lj requires professional quality photos and stream right now. I've been rejected 20 times. A webcam picture would just not do it for them. My stream and sound is also rated bad, when i talk in free chat, smile and know english well, and not just lay there. Though asking members about my audio and video, they told me they see me, and hear me crystal clear.
I mean i broadcast on streamate in HD with the encoder in the recommended settings and don't have problems, but looks like for LJ this is not good enough right now.
I'm not against a site making improvements, but this newly introduced rating "system", i prefer to call it scam , since it's based on the admin's personal opinion about your feed, it's very irritating, since it's just a way to take another 5 % down from hard working performers earnings. The last 5 % reducement was not long ago.
Requiring top notch quality feed, and in the same time making up rules for taking away earnings, it's not cool livejasmin!!!
Thats so true. Thank you all for the answers. I will finish the period, and then try SM. I did take the professional pictures anyway, because I can use them for other sites for example, but im sure there will be another issue to keep deducting money :P:banghead:
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They do seem to be overly harsh with their judgments. At least they raised the price limit to 4.99.
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It really is accurate to call their new "rating" system a scam. I haven't been rated yet, but I stream in perfectly adequate quality HD (I always had the "Good" feedback on their previous system), so when I am rated and discover that it is, in their opinion, enough to merit a percentage deduction, I will scream. I'm guessing it will happen to almost all models, given that it takes into account not only video feed quality/audio quality, but also the model's makeup, hairstyle, environment (they apparently want chandeliers strewn all over the place and marble flooring, etc.), and so forth. Nothing but a scam to earn more $ and make it look like it's the model's own doing.
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Originally Posted by
BluJ
They do seem to be overly harsh with their judgments. At least they raised the price limit to 4.99.
lol i was going to say exactly this, all their requirements are annoying....but at least they finally raised the price limit. I tried 4.99 alllllllllll day yesterday and got ONE show lol (lj is not my only site obv.) The guys there are so cheap (like they think over 2.99 is soooo expensive). I'm really curious what OP is charging there if she feels comfortable sharing
To answer OP...I would actually recommend you improving your equipment, wifi (if you can or whatever you can) and see if you can do better on LJ before trying another site... because for bad quality and 25 hours a week you seem to be doing okay there. The top girls on LJ make a lot even though most of us joke about it being a shitty site, so it might be better to improve where you are doing decent first? Instead of trying to start over somewhere else. Equipment and internet speed matter on SM too..so don't think you will escape that just by leaving LJ.
But you also don't know until you try,certain girls do better on certain sites, you just have to find your match (or matches lol) I think you might have found a match because your doing good there. Most posts on here about LJ is how the shows stopped after the .99 intro period. So even though you don't like their annoying requirements and changes. I say stick with what is working, improve (not just photos/tech stuff try pushing your fan club or for tips there) until you feel you hit the max on that site thennnn try SM or wherever.
Or maybe cut one day a week from LJ and try SM..don't just leave what is working okay though. It took me awhile to figure out, I would leave something to try something new and then have it go wrong and basically waste a bunch of time and have to work extra hard to get back to what I used to make on the site I left. I typed way too much but basically my advice is unless you have time to waste or really really feel like you can do much better somewhere else ...just improve not restart. :)
Re: Livejasmin vs Streamate
Lol, they raised the rates, what a nice way to distract attention while they are taking away 10%. They even state on the site, they can take HD back manually, if they don't like you.
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I worked for both and LiveJasmin is fuckin CRAZY with the rules when it comes to technical specs and cam quality (rejecting pictures, sorting me to the bottom of the page for not having the best cam and Internet). And it sounds like they are getting worse and worse. Taking 5% of your income for bad quality??? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SWITCH TO STREAMATE. I AM SO GLAD I DID. Also, weekly pay better when biweekly by far! It motivates me to work more and is easier for me to budget.
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The problem is, directing performers to a site that is good to you now, will become not so good after many sign up. This is the case now with streamate unfortunately, and there is only one first page, where the money is. Earnings after the first page can be earned at any other site that doesn't suck badly. As i see it things are going downhill in the cam world, we are required more and more for less and less. Better save up for another business adventure.
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So there's basically no point now in a UK model with average UK internet speeds even bothering with LJ now then? Not that I'm interested since I tried it before and found the 0.99 intro sickening (that's 64 PENCE to me BEFORE LJ's cut!), and that traffic was non-existant after that. But it's interesting, and very scary to see that just like SM they are now discriminating against any model who is unable to attain over 2mb upload speed.
How much longer will it be before those of us without high speed internet will be prevented from camming entirely as the site restrictions are so high?
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The problem is that even for those who have the required speeds the hd icon will be taken away manually just so they can deduct 10% of the earnings. It's a made up rule to take away earnings again, who knows why. This is Livejasmin business strategy at the moment, unfortunately for us. I hope they go downhill with these practices, HD and all.
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Originally Posted by
Busygirl
The problem is, directing performers to a site that is good to you now, will become not so good after many sign up. This is the case now with streamate unfortunately, and there is only one first page, where the money is. Earnings after the first page can be earned at any other site that doesn't suck badly. As i see it things are going downhill in the cam world, we are required more and more for less and less. Better save up for another business adventure.
You are absolutely right , I agree 100% with you.
Re: Livejasmin vs Streamate
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Originally Posted by
Busygirl
Lj requires professional quality photos and stream right now. I've been rejected 20 times. A webcam picture would just not do it for them. My stream and sound is also rated bad, when i talk in free chat, smile and know english well, and not just lay there. Though asking members about my audio and video, they told me they see me, and hear me crystal clear.
I mean i broadcast on streamate in HD with the encoder in the recommended settings and don't have problems, but looks like for LJ this is not good enough right now.
I'm not against a site making improvements, but this newly introduced rating "system", i prefer to call it scam , since it's based on the admin's personal opinion about your feed, it's very irritating, since it's just a way to take another 5 % down from hard working performers earnings. The last 5 % reducement was not long ago.
Requiring top notch quality feed, and in the same time making up rules for taking away earnings, it's not cool livejasmin!!!
I swear they just give us a bad rating just to scare us and keep us on our toes. I got the bad rating too( it for a differnt reason but Im to lazy to click to ok button to fix it) and Im always on the first or second line of the main page. service reps have always been super sweet to me, if the next time your on cam and you see the 5 deduction tell them you think its unfair and they'll change it.
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Originally Posted by
apryll11
Service reps have always been super sweet to me, if the next time your on cam and you see the 5 deduction tell them you think its unfair and they'll change it.
They are always super polite, that is true. It depends on who you get, too. If you already have a good cam and good lighting and everything, they probably will change it if you make a good case, but not always.
I hope they at least give us a chance to change things once evaluated, they've been VERY vague about how much time we have.
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Originally Posted by
BluJ
They are always super polite, that is true. It depends on who you get, too. If you already have a good cam and good lighting and everything, they probably will change it if you make a good case, but not always.
I hope they at least give us a chance to change things once evaluated, they've been VERY vague about how much time we have.
I would hope too cos that would too ridiculous to leave a girl with a bad rating even after she fixed the problem.
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Originally Posted by
apryll11
I would hope too cos that would too ridiculous to leave a girl with a bad rating even after she fixed the problem.
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Originally Posted by
h0ttie
lol i was going to say exactly this, all their requirements are annoying....but at least they finally raised the price limit. I tried 4.99 alllllllllll day yesterday and got ONE show lol (lj is not my only site obv.) The guys there are so cheap (like they think over 2.99 is soooo expensive). I'm really curious what OP is charging there if she feels comfortable sharing
To answer OP...I would actually recommend you improving your equipment, wifi (if you can or whatever you can) and see if you can do better on LJ before trying another site... because for bad quality and 25 hours a week you seem to be doing okay there. The top girls on LJ make a lot even though most of us joke about it being a shitty site, so it might be better to improve where you are doing decent first? Instead of trying to start over somewhere else. Equipment and internet speed matter on SM too..so don't think you will escape that just by leaving LJ.
But you also don't know until you try,certain girls do better on certain sites, you just have to find your match (or matches lol) I think you might have found a match because your doing good there. Most posts on here about LJ is how the shows stopped after the .99 intro period. So even though you don't like their annoying requirements and changes. I say stick with what is working, improve (not just photos/tech stuff try pushing your fan club or for tips there) until you feel you hit the max on that site thennnn try SM or wherever.
Or maybe cut one day a week from LJ and try SM..don't just leave what is working okay though. It took me awhile to figure out, I would leave something to try something new and then have it go wrong and basically waste a bunch of time and have to work extra hard to get back to what I used to make on the site I left. I typed way too much but basically my advice is unless you have time to waste or really really feel like you can do much better somewhere else ...just improve not restart. :)
Yes, I was thinking about that too, every girl has her match, and Im dooing pretty well despite my conditions, but Im pretty feed up with their abusive rules and deductions, so Im not leaving its until I know for sure I can do better in SM, I will just split my time and compare then, because I know once you left a site is hard to restart. Ilike this job, and I know that if I want to make money, I have to get a better connection and create a better environment, no matter wich site I decide to work, so Im working on that.
About your ask, Im charging the minumun, 1.99, because as u and other girls said, its pretty difficult there to charge more, Ive seen a few girls who charge more and they have years there and have a lot of regullars willing to pay.
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Originally Posted by
BluJ
They are always super polite, that is true. It depends on who you get, too. If you already have a good cam and good lighting and everything, they probably will change it if you make a good case, but not always.
I hope they at least give us a chance to change things once evaluated, they've been VERY vague about how much time we have.
I asked how long time do I have, but they just said something like "could be tomorrow, could be a month." But anyway I had a bad audio rate because used to have it disabled, I enabled it and ask them to change my rate and they changed to good.
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wtf, well this is the most recent LJ thread in search so im gona post here. I just tried LJ out for the first time today... OMFG. I did a 20minute private show and got $4.67.... REALLY? That's fucking pathetic. So ive only ever worked mfc (50% cut) and AW (70% cut). So i am pretty f-in shocked. 20 minutes of fucking myself and i got a measly $4.67....... hahahahahahaha. i cant stop laughing. why would any1 work for this piece of shit website. $4.67 DAMN. for the same amount of time on AW. I'd have gotten $51.49.
edit: my sides hurt from laughing
edit: they want me to earn another $98 to increase my share by 5%. oh god. this is hilarious.
im not suprised the traffic is good on this website. the customers must be having a field day getting shit for this cheap.
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You have 3 Hour(s) 50 Min(s) 41 Sec(s) left from Your FreeChat Promotion Period,
or You have 61 Min(s) 59 Sec(s) or left from Your Private Promotion Period.
LOL.
So after my 20minutes working for $0.24 a minute they want me to do another 61minutes of it. DONT THINK SO.
Re: Livejasmin vs Streamate
When I was doing my sign-ups for different sites, all other major sites (SM, AW, MGF, Cams, MFC) approved my ID pics and I had no issues setting up my profiles. Livejasmin never did, they always said quality isn't good enough etc (for ID pic I mean). So I never had the possibility to try the site, but I guess I'm not missing out much.
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Originally Posted by
TeenageAnnie
wtf, well this is the most recent LJ thread in search so im gona post here. I just tried LJ out for the first time today... OMFG. I did a 20minute private show and got $4.67.... REALLY? That's fucking pathetic. So ive only ever worked mfc (50% cut) and AW (70% cut). So i am pretty f-in shocked. 20 minutes of fucking myself and i got a measly $4.67....... hahahahahahaha. i cant stop laughing. why would any1 work for this piece of shit website. $4.67 DAMN. for the same amount of time on AW. I'd have gotten $51.49.
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Your first 60 minutes are at $0.98 same than in ImLive,
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Originally Posted by
ConnyLove
Your first 60 minutes are at $0.98 same than in ImLive,
60 MINUTES? If thats the case why have I done 20 and still have 60 left to do. Also it's only 25% of that $0.98. if i had known i wouldnt have bothered. $0.24 a minute is shit i dont even care if its only for new girl period.
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Originally Posted by
TeenageAnnie
60 MINUTES? If thats the case why have I done 20 and still have 60 left to do. Also it's only 25% of that $0.98. if i had known i wouldnt have bothered. $0.24 a minute is shit i dont even care if its only for new girl period.
I was wondering why your 20 min amount was so low. You got a bad rating and a 5% deduction, the min start is 30% regardless if your new or not. But I guess 30 cents, 24 cents a min its not much to spilt hairs over is it.