Lowering your per minute rate to get a sale
Hello, I'm new! I've been on cam for a bit now and will often get custies who complain that my PM rate is too high and ask for me to lower it. I would obviously have to sign out of my session and lower it and sign in again and then that person may not even want a prvt anymore. So, I don't really do it, plus I don't like cheapskates trying to yank my chain, LOL. But last night I did lower it for one person bc it was slow and I wanted to sell a private and all went well, though I was disappointed about having to drop my rate by 1.50 (it adds up as u know) but the session lasted fairly long so OK. My new rule is to only do it for members who have prepaid money in their acct. Part of business and selling is negotiating, oh well.
I'm asking other cammers if they encounter this issue a lot and if they lower their rate or just say hell no f off!!
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What site are you on and what are your rates? I play around with my rates from $3.99 up to $10.99 depending on the time of the day. There will always be guys that complain, ALWAYS even if you charge .99 a minute.
I rarely get guys telling me my rates are too high. I usually just tell them to get a better job so they can afford me.
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Charging really high is not always a smart idea. You need to experiment and find the rate that makes you the most money per hour on average. That will take time. It could be $2.99/min or $14.99/min. For most people, its probably between $3-$8 excluding gold shows. Charge too high and you will limit your customer base and lose potential money. Charge too low and you could be making more.
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^ Agreed
You'll go crazy if you try to please the "do this then we go pvt" guys. They'll always want what they don't have.
Sometimes I do lower my rate if I had a slow day the day before and I want to be busier the next day...but I only do it because I feel like it. Sometimes it gets really boring and discouraging to sit in free chat so I'll lower my rates by like a dollar or something (my logic: it's only 35 cents for me so not a big deal)
But ultimately I always fall back to where I am now. The boys are lucky that I keep forgetting to email streamate to have my rate maximum raised :P Gonna raise my rates so I have more room to play with them and make guys think they're getting a discount :P
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They also want what they CAN'T afford! Gotta love men with high hopes, lol!
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ChopperM
They'll always want what they don't have.
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I agree, guys love what they can't afford and if they really want it they'd be willing to pay. I'm never going to lower my rates because I believe in going only after my target market. This works in business as well.
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It's weird but I couldn't get pvt at $2.99! I notice that they also want you to finger your ass, fuck your pussy, deepthroating a dildo at the same time then rate you poorly!
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kortneykay
I agree, guys love what they can't afford and if they really want it they'd be willing to pay. I'm never going to lower my rates because I believe in going only after my target market. This works in business as well.
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I say play with your rates...but don't cater to cheap losers. Those are 2 different things.
If you decide charging 1.98 on imlive (random probably horrible example lol) is what will bring you the most money then try it. But don't lower it for the guy who says it's too expensive or how he needs a discount so he can stay longer...those aren't the customers you want to keep around.
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i work on adultwork at 2.99 or 3.99 a minute. i never do free chat either. but 1 day i decided to put free chat on because i didnt have any shows for 1 hour, so i got a whole bunch of losers saying "why r u so special that ur rate is so high?" lol.. anyway so i turned off free chat. then it continued to be DEAD. So i reduced my rates to 0.99 and 1.99, it was an experiment and i wasnt actually gona accept any of the shows. anyway i kept my prices this low for 1 hour and i recieved exactly 0 shows. i then put my ratesback up to 2.99 and 3.99, i waited a bit longer and thatnight i ended up making bank with my usual high rates. moral of the story is don't lower your rates just cause some scumbag made u feel they were too high, because that scumbag doesnt even buy your show for 0.001 a minute, he is just a time wasting dickhead.
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h0ttie
I say play with your rates...but don't cater to cheap losers. Those are 2 different things.
If you decide charging 1.98 on imlive (random probably horrible example lol) is what will bring you the most money then try it. But don't lower it for the guy who says it's too expensive or how he needs a discount so he can stay longer...those aren't the customers you want to keep around.
This. Plus, in my experience, the guy who says "If you lower your rate, I'll stay longer" still ends up staying in private the same short amount of time as before. He's just being cheap, and thinks he should get a discount just because he asked for one...lol.
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I'll tell them this is not a Democracy so they don't get to choose :)
Do they go into Whole Foods or Louis Vuitton and say if you lower the price, I'll buy more? Sure, the fuck they don't!
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TheBrownFox
This. Plus, in my experience, the guy who says "If you lower your rate, I'll stay longer" still ends up staying in private the same short amount of time as before. He's just being cheap, and thinks he should get a discount just because he asked for one...lol.
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I don't do this. Currently I'm on sites in most cases where I don't have control over the price that's set for privates. Still on the ones I do I just tell guys to find models that they can afford. Say " thanks for stopping in and hope you have fun with the model you find".
Then move over and talk to someone else. If he continues to persist just kick him out.
No reason to waste energy on people that can't afford it in the first place.
In many cases the guy can afford you and actually some models that are priced higher than you. It's not about the price really it's about getting you to lower your standards for him. That is really what he's on a cam site for.
I remember when I first stated camming some ugly guy wanted to sit and have a debate and I thought wtf? Go find someone you can afford. Why isn't that simple enough? He got so nasty and abusive over several days that i just blocked his entire state.
This is the same guy that goes into the strip club trying to invoke his own specials that don't actually exist for lapdances
The guy that tries to short an escort $20 when he puts the money in the envelope
He's also the guy that goes to get a body rub but tries to go over the time he paid for plus gets grabby because he doesn't want to pay escort rates.
He's also the guy that does a booked phone call yet tries to get an extra 2-5 mins for free.
Same entitled asshole that always happens to be extremely visually repulsive.
Since this guy has a case of the "gimme's" I give one statement of no if that's not enough I block him.
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Also to add if you want to play a "lower your rate game" with a loser like this. Try putting your rates up really high then see what the guy offers. What you'll find on this backhanded psych game is that these guys will end up paying more than what you originally wanted just because they think they got one over on you.
It's worked for me a few times and it's great little game when you're in the mood for it.
So maybe one day you're at 9.99 but you really are comfortable at 3.99 ( without hagglers). So you let the guy come in while you're at 9.99 and see what offer he gives. For all you know he may say ok fine give it to me for 6.99 per min. You're laughing all the way to the bank:)
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h0ttie
If you decide charging 1.98 on imlive (random probably horrible example lol) is what will bring you the most money then try it. But don't lower it for the guy who says it's too expensive or how he needs a discount so he can stay longer.
[email protected]"stay longer". Guys who say it stay until they cum (which takes like 4 minutes most times), not until they run out of money. That's the point of them chosing the cheapest shows: to get as much as they can for as little money as they can. I used to charge .99 and you know what? The average length of my pvt was the same as now with 2.99.