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I am also a black cam girl, and I think placement has something to do with the popularity of your room and how many hours you put in. Another thing I notice about placement ratings is it also depend on the quality of your equipment. I seen that women who have lower quality cams or lower speed internet and computers place lower. I dont think it has anything to do with color.
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mimiboo69
if you WHERE playing you would have not said I love who fuck I am never change it any day just comparing how darker women do get props like they should never mad for what my skin lmof girl bye
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Okay I'm still trying to.. understand.. what... this... means?
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Incantatious
DID SEE WHAT REDBONE SAID LOL SAYING I am mad that I am not light skin
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Uh posting a screenshot of the first two rows of models is NOT "proof" that streamate prioritized white girls over black girls.
THOSE girls are HUSTLING it. They have a LOT of people in their rooms, they are busting their ass. They don't just sit there, they are bouncing around, answering questions, dancing, interacting with the room.
THEY are working hard to be there.
You're seeing apparent racism or favoritism when there IS NONE.
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I honestly don't think she meant any malice.
But what is your point with the screenshot? That there aren't any black women in the top three rows at that particular moment, so Streamate are obviously knocking them down the site? How do you work that out?
Right now there are 543 white, 117 asian, and 138 ebony online going from the categories at the side, so just how many black women do you need to see in free chat on the front page top three rows at any one time to be happy? This is stupid.
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Not true. I'm a mixed BBW and consistently in the 2nd/3rd row on SM and one of the top BBWs. Granted, I am lighter and don't really look "black" but there are TONS of top black (and even black BBW top models like Kristi Maxx!) models.
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Incantatious
I honestly don't think she meant any malice.
But what is your point with the screenshot? That there aren't any black women in the top three rows at that particular moment, so Streamate are obviously knocking them down the site? How do you work that out?
Right now there are 543 white, 117 asian, and 138 ebony online going from the categories at the side, so just how many black women do you need to see in free chat on the front page top three rows at any one time to be happy? This is stupid.
I agree.
Statistically th ratio of white.chicks far out numbers the black girls on there.
Hell, when you google streamate, the first sub category for types of searches always comes up as EBONY, then matures, etc.
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CanadianRuby
Uh posting a screenshot of the first two rows of models is NOT "proof" that streamate prioritized white girls over black girls.
THOSE girls are HUSTLING it. They have a LOT of people in their rooms, they are busting their ass. They don't just sit there, they are bouncing around, answering questions, dancing, interacting with the room.
THEY are working hard to be there.
You're seeing apparent racism or favoritism when there IS NONE.
Hell yeah ESPECIALLY Staci Chase- that girl BUST ASS and I love her! Plus half of those girls pictured are studio girls.
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This makes me think of a black guy who ran a red light, open beer in hand, smoking a blunt, on the cell phone with no seat belt getting pulled over and saying, "It's because I'm black!"
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I'm black btw- I'm saying this to let you know as a black person, it's not true what you say.
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They say vanilla sex and caucasian skin are the standard all over the world, but I don't think either of those are true. Different people like different things.
I notice that girls who have worked on the site the longest typically have the best placement. Or girls who have been trained by girls who have worked on the site the longest. Regardless of skin color.
Plus, isn't dark skin a fetish? Wasn't it taboo (grow up) for a lot of older white men to sexually interact with black women? I mean, there are advantages I see...
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some of these race threads and caming I don't even answer because they are just ridiculous. I have been caming for 10 years. my skin tone has never been an issue and never will be. when your caming it's about how you conduct yourself in your room and how you treat the chatters that are there, who is to say that the girls in a low placement aren't making a killing of money on the site.
Some of these theories are just plain ridiculous and just take up space on the site. at the end of the day its a matter of what is in your bank account and the proof is in that pudding.
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first all I was asking other black women I put parenthesis around black darker women felt and their thoughts sorry not black and white thing talking to women of color IT IS WHAT IT IS was suppose to be discussion not this
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mimiboo69
first all I was asking other black women I put parenthesis around black darker women felt and their thoughts sorry not black and white thing talking to women of color IT IS WHAT IT IS was suppose to be discussion not this
You only wanted black women to respond, not white women? Oh, well you should have said! Though that seems strange.. Was the input you received from white women somehow irrelevant? Why? I didn't tell you what I "felt" anyhow, I told you what I actually, factually saw: I wasn't lying to you earlier when I saw a black woman #1 on the site with 6 other black women on the front page alone. Was that unsatisfactory because you had a white woman present that information to you?
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mimi, it's just simply not true booboo. I love you too girl but you have to take into consideration that some of us actually don't see the exact same "top" on sm as you do. For example, I have 1 state blocked and though Nocturnelle is not in that particular state, she can't seem to find me anywhere on the site unless I link her. I tested this out and asked several guys in my room at the same time where they found me. 3-4 said they found me in the 1st place, first row of Big Tits, the other few said they same me on the first row of the BBW category, 2-3 over, and a few others said as soon as they logged into SM they saw me on the first page in the top row, another said he found me on SM on the front page, but at the bottom. One guy clicked on me because he said he saw me in all sorts of categories. He said "Damn girl, I can't avoid you, you're everywhere on this site!" I mean, who knows where our placement is?
I can guarantee that SM isn't out to get us black women and pit us against each other based on "color". I consider myself to be light skinned (not red, but maybe a peanutbutter?) and I can't even see my own placement (probably because I blocked my state) and I'm sure it's probably not "higher" than any hard working dark skinned woman.
It's really about the hustle at the end of the day. I see dark skinned women on the top few rows, the top page on SM randomly throughout the day. Because we all have the freedom to log on whenever we want, you can never actually "place" anyone. If we all had the same schedule and you never saw a dark skinned black woman on the front page then maybe it would be questionable but it's really not what you think. Thinking like this creates division between not only our fellow camgirls, but us blacks. Remember the one drop rule, and the paper bag test? It hurts to make claims and revisit that stuff.
We all know the light skin vs. dark skin cuts deep and it's not the case here. It's not something I like to revisit, especially when we should all (black/white/Asian/etc) be sticking together and supporting each other. When you believe things like that it really does hurt people's feelings especially if it's far from the truth. I don't think I'm on the top rows because of my skin color, I think I'm on there (at times) because I'm a bad ass bitch yo. ;)
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CanadianRuby
Uh posting a screenshot of the first two rows of models is NOT "proof" that streamate prioritized white girls over black girls.
THOSE girls are HUSTLING it. They have a LOT of people in their rooms, they are busting their ass. They don't just sit there, they are bouncing around, answering questions, dancing, interacting with the room.
THEY are working hard to be there.
You're seeing apparent racism or favoritism when there IS NONE.
I agree. Why would Streamate be racist anyway, when a huge chunk of shows on there are race play and fetish oriented?! There is a huge market for that. Those are half my shows.
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mimiboo69
first all I was asking other black women I put parenthesis around black darker women felt and their thoughts sorry not black and white thing talking to women of color IT IS WHAT IT IS was suppose to be discussion not this
How do you know everyone responding is white though? A lot of people on here wish to remain, for the most part, anonymous. And besides, there are other races besides just black or white. And even aside from that, there are mixed girls, girls who look one race but are a completely different one, and girls who don't even look their race. If I had it my way, I would be raceless.
Its easy to see what you want to see. Did you realize that of that screenshot you posted, half the girls are 30s or older (and that is just the ages they put- they may even be much older than 30s in real life!)? When people go around saying "I'm too old to do porn!! Everyone wants 18 or 21 year olds!!!!" when its just not true. The things the media lead you the believe are not true. And the race factor is one of them, its not true. Just like age.
Its easy to blame external factors, or outdated factors, instead of just putting in the hours and changing your charisma or room dynamic. There's really no secret. I honestly believe there is a proportionate number of black women at the top of the site compared to how many are on the site. The reason you see mostly white women at the top is because there is mostly white women on the site.
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I actually think this is a really interesting topic. I'm looking at the offline placement for the ebony category, and the majority of the 'top' models are very light skinned, and some of them have very caucasian features. I also notice a lot of porn stars and girls who were 'trained' before they started camming.
I often wonder about race and camming. I think a lot of people are attracted to people who look similar to themselves (if that makes sense) This is an article that kind of relates to what I'm talking about. Considering that, I think black women with lighter complexions would have an advantage because they tend to have a more diverse ethnic background. Men from several cultures would find something familiar in their features, and I guess find them more attractive.
I'm not black. Both of my parents were "half white", and I inherited very fair coloring. I've noticed that most of my customers share some sort of ethnic heritage with me. What I'm getting at is regardless of what your racial identity is, the more genetically diverse you are the bigger an advantage you have. Does that make any sense at all?
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Heeeeeey let's not leave out the Asians of this forum! :p
I'm a dark Asian... at least I look like it despite being mixed. So where do I fit in this whole debate? lol
I don't think that anything "is what it is," it only is if you think that way. I believe that what we are currently trying to do is progress in society so that there isn't any discrimination anymore. It can't advance if one is to nit-pick on coincidences without real concrete evidence of all the factors involved.
For you to be able to support your hypothesis about "darker girls not getting good placement," have you done a lengthy study about this? Did you stay online the whole day and looked at the turnover of girls that get top placement? Did you take into consideration that your state may be blocked by other "black" girls? If so, how many and when do they log on? Did you clear your cookies? Because perhaps, the programmers look into search histories and present you with what you may like as a potential client. What about internet speed? Studios? How does that affect placement? Is there a certain hustle that works best on SM in particular?
Too many questions unanswered, therefore, the statement that darker girls have worse placement is not a valid conclusion. To me at least.
Just my thoughts.
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ABigNerd
I actually think this is a really interesting topic. I'm looking at the offline placement for the ebony category, and the majority of the 'top' models are very light skinned, and some of them have very caucasian features. I also notice a lot of porn stars and girls who were 'trained' before they started camming.
I often wonder about race and camming. I think a lot of people are attracted to people who look similar to themselves (if that makes sense) This is an
article that kind of relates to what I'm talking about. Considering that, I think black women with lighter complexions would have an advantage because they tend to have a more diverse ethnic background. Men from several cultures would find something familiar in their features, and I guess find them more attractive.
I'm not black. Both of my parents were "half white", and I inherited very fair coloring. I've noticed that most of my customers share some sort of ethnic heritage with me. What I'm getting at is regardless of what your racial identity is, the more genetically diverse you are the bigger an advantage you have. Does that make any sense at all?
I think that maybe in a very general sense this could be accurate.... but I don't think that when it comes to camming that it is very accurate.
Many guys go to cam sites so that they can "give in" to what is not usually "socially acceptable". In fact many people are very attracted to people who are much different than themselves, but might be afraid of societies reaction if they play that out in "real life". Example being GlamourRouge doing a lot of race play shows...
Another personal example is that I would venture a guess that about 75% of my high spenders are black men. And I'm as pale skin as you can be without being albino! LOL So... I don't think that men are more likely to spend on women who are more like themselves, I think it could be the opposite in the camming world.
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This is not entirely true! I am Asian with an exotic look and the majority of my spenders are classic white men and black. I rarely if ever get any Asian! This is also true for me in real life!
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ABigNerd
I often wonder about race and camming. I think a lot of people are attracted to people who look similar to themselves (if that makes sense) This is an
article that kind of relates to what I'm talking about. Considering that, I think black women with lighter complexions would have an advantage because they tend to have a more diverse ethnic background. Men from several cultures would find something familiar in their features, and I guess find them more attractive.
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ABigNerd
I actually think this is a really interesting topic. I'm looking at the offline placement for the ebony category, and the majority of the 'top' models are very light skinned, and some of them have very caucasian features.
OMG I could kiss you, glad someone sees what see Thank you
This is what I have been saying or trying to say along
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I'm mixed (white, native american, & ethiopian), have medium skin, and fluffy hair. It's true, I make more $ when my hair is straightened than when it's not, but I know for a fact that I also put in more work on my makeup when I do my hair... so that probably has something to do with it. I do rather well over all, even though I'm on a site that doesn't have tons of black or mixed models that are successful. A few things that I know work in my favor though are: I'm extremely articulate and sound well educated, I'm kind to damn near everyone, and I'm extremely peppy. I'm by no means a top model on CB, but I make enough to pay rent, taxes, and have fun on the weekends. I'm not a BBW by any mean, so I'm not quite in the same boat... but being well groomed and having tons of energy helps a LOT.
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I meant to bring up racial fetishism as well, and that's going to be a big factor with camming. I'm going to drop this now. Race is a touchy subject. Alas, I'm a nerd at heart, and when someone poses a question, I must think about it.
Edited to add: I never meant that everyone only likes people who are similar to them. I personally think all different types of people can be sexy, but middle eastern men make me melt. Most of the people I've dated couldn't look less like me. I'm also a BBW who only dates thin men. Go figure.
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I also get more Caucasian clients than men who look like me. Even in my dating life, I rarely get African American men pining for me, for example, my husband is Caucasian lol. Matter of fact, I have a white and black dildo (working on getting a tiny one and a mixed/light brown one)and I always ask before the show and I think only 2-3 out of hundreds want the black cock. Hell, I get more SPH guys asking for the black cock because it goes great with their fantasy.
When we c2c 99.9% of the dicks looking back at me are white lol. I'm pleasantly surprised when I actually see a black dick peering happily back at me LOL. I'm thinking "Yes, the DO find me attractive!" Thankfully with camming you're exposed to many different men of many backgrounds. Like someone else mentioned, the men who are attracted to you are able to enjoy you behind their computers so unless they tell you you really don't know who's peering back. Someone mentioned, you don't choose your niche, your niche chooses you.