i have chargeback almost weekly....just done a pvt show and saw 59 chargeback 2mins ago.. :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(
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i have chargeback almost weekly....just done a pvt show and saw 59 chargeback 2mins ago.. :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(
Do you mean that the chargeback came through as soon as you end your show ? That is crazy. I've not had chargebacks yet so I don't know how it works with naked, if they let you know the name of the user, the date etc , or they just chargebacks show up in the model's account arbitrarily.
Yeah my chargesbacks didnt show until it rolled over to the next pay period so i keep checking as well, this sucks bc Ive been doing really well on naked and now I have to worry about this crap ughhh
I was afraid of getting chargebacks myself so I started recording my own privates with new members + also copying the chat.
Now since I hadn't had any I wasn't sure what it would appear as. When I was with ifriend you could clearly see who requested a refund or who's card came up declined for insufficient funds.
Random amounts just showing up wouldn't work because that same member could just keep wasting your time and taking you private again and again.
Currently I'm only getting privates from regs anyways and a few new members. Plus there have been alot of new models signing up but for me I'm not making anywhere near what I did a year ago. I did ok last night almost $300 but all of that came pretty much for 2 members and that was all. The rest just sit there and hope for something to see.
The only reason I haven't moved over to SM is because I've not only read traffic has been shoty but there are far more models on that site than naked. More models + not enough spending members = not enough funds to go around.
I thought of moving over to F4F but hear you have to put in something like 4000 minutes about 43 hours a week to get their 30%. Anything below and it drops horribly down to I believe 22 or 26%. That's a ridiculous commitment to make when someone is walking away with 70% of the money you earned.
Also one thing surprised me last night. I was looking at the models on the site and saw a model with the "new model tag" in first place. I though "ooh she must have alot of great rates" Nope. She's not only not rated high , she's not a porn star nor did she have more members in her room compared to that of the other models that are typically placed in the top row. I thought it was a glitch so I refreshed and tried another browser and there she was 1st place.
I kinda through wait there are many models that have worked hard to get their place and deserve to be there because they are really that entertaining.
Still moving on from that I went into models room just to see their traffic and it was terrible. They were teasing and really trying hard but those members wouldn't tip a dime. I couldn't watch long because I ended up in private but it's like that site has fallen off the map or something.
I wish cam4 was a bit better for me. I just can't really get behind the pretend you don't want money husle and act like you really want a bf or husband.
Just realized I got off of topic a bit.
Anways I agree the chargeback issue blows but week after week? Someone is getting perma banned. With all of the things they don't allow I'm suprised they implemented this at all.
Also wondering are the chargebacks coming more so from tips in free chat or are they coming from privates?
have 9 usd chargeback today...
From the naked.com email Courtney posted in the link Laurie provided above:
this ish bothers me. how the hell is a chica working a mainstream site supposed to guard against fraud? Y'all don't see the names, email addresses or IPs of customers who register their cc's on the site, only the site and cc company has access to that information. As a result, a chica working on naked has none of the info that could be used to weed out fraud.
I know a lot of sites do this but it's bull. This is not about 'partnering' with chicas to reduce fraud, it's about the site/payment processor passing responsibility for their own shoddy scrubbing techniques on to cam chicas, the one group not provided with the info required to prevent credit card fraud.
With my own processing, if I get a booking from Jane Smith who uses an IP in Waziristan and a disposable email account and I accept the show I do so at my own risk. I have the information required to make an educated assessment about the level of risk attached to any given payment. Y'all get none of that information, yet you're held responsible?
ridiculous
It would be interesting to see if cb levels on sites that pass cb's onto cam chicas are actually higher than industry average. Obviously there's no way to test this theory but I am curious. After all, what's the incentive for sites to use payment processing with a healthy scrubbing system if there's no accountability on their end of things? If this sort of moral hazard scenario does exist, then it would follow that these policies do negatively impact everyone who uses adult processing, in that these sites would be contributing to the higher-than-mainstream cb rates that cc companies use to justify exorbitant processing fees.
^ Thank you loveshooks. Beautifully stated as always. You are a bridge over shark-infested waters. :)
I am camming on naked with a "wait and see" attitude. So far only one cb and it was listed as fraud on my earnings table --$1.20. It is devastating to get hit with a major chargeback and I'm especially sorry there are so many. As performers, many times we have all of the responsibility and none of the control.
I have only had 2 charge backs. I only see them at the end of the pay period though...