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I feel like I'm in more of a free chat hell with Skype messages than I am on free chat sites lol!
This guy just now, going off on me in a wonderful way because I told him I was not doing foot shows. I was very polite and told him I'm not doing foot shows, he gets all kinds of mad at me.... I told him look did you see any foot show listings on my profile? No. Maybe use the categories to find models. Then he proceeds to tell me how nasty he's sure my feet must be... and that he needs a preview. I'm like.... seriously? Block.
I am happy about the bidding on spots though, because when Mark told me that featured spots had more than a month waiting list, I immediately thought "well, he's clearly not charging enough for featured spots!" so this seems like a better idea.
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And now we bid... Is traffic that good at the top because all I'm getting is a ton of freeloading foreigners who act like the thought of paying for a show is a sin. I used to get tons of shows, now, a few inquires. I'm willing to try it out though I guess. $30+ for a week of ads is fine if lots of shows are being bought but why pay for a week of ads for $30 or so, when the monthly ad is only $20? I guess more people will sign up for the monthly because its a lot cheaper.
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SarahTime
I feel like I'm in more of a free chat hell with Skype messages than I am on free chat sites lol!
I'm curious if communicating through emails would work for indy. These guys are used to Skype or Yahoo messages I know but email is so much less irritating for me.
Plus it would be so much easier for me to tell where they found me if I had a distinct email for each indy site. hmmm...
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laurielegs
I'm curious if communicating through emails would work for indy. These guys are used to Skype or Yahoo messages I know but email is so much less irritating for me.
Plus it would be so much easier for me to tell where they found me if I had a distinct email for each indy site. hmmm...
I use yahoo for primary contact with new contacts because I don't like clogging up my skype with randos, but because of my own site I can state with certainty that chicas who use email/contact forms as preferred primary contact method don't have lower conversion rates than anyone else.
choose a contact method that works best for you, whatever that may be. the real clients you want to attract will use it
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kortneykay
And now we bid... Is traffic that good at the top because all I'm getting is a ton of freeloading foreigners who act like the thought of paying for a show is a sin. I used to get tons of shows, now, a few inquires. I'm willing to try it out though I guess. $30+ for a week of ads is fine if lots of shows are being bought but why pay for a week of ads for $30 or so, when the monthly ad is only $20? I guess more people will sign up for the monthly because its a lot cheaper.
What is the monthly ad? I thought there was only the top rotating banner featured spots that we can bid for.
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Ugh. I'm actually pretty annoyed at the bidding for spots thing.
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laurielegs
I'm curious if communicating through emails would work for indy. These guys are used to Skype or Yahoo messages I know but email is so much less irritating for me.
Plus it would be so much easier for me to tell where they found me if I had a distinct email for each indy site. hmmm...
I get a FEW emails via CMD, and in my experience those guys freeload the hardest. Last week I had 15 freaking emails back and forth with a custie wanting a video. Finally I just told him to email me when he's got his shit together.
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anoncamgirl
Ugh. I'm actually pretty annoyed at the bidding for spots thing.
Yeah, me too.
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I find it irritating that I was on the wait list and now I have to bid. He should have made it that way from the get go. Maybe the people on the wait list should have gotten 1st dibs to bid, I don't know. Now on the first day the highest bid is up to $30, I am officially out.
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[QUOTE=loveshooks;2735693]I use yahoo for primary contact with new contacts because I don't like clogging up my skype with randos, but because of my own site I can state with certainty that chicas who use email/contact forms as preferred primary contact method don't have lower conversion rates than anyone else.
choose a contact method that works best for you, whatever that may be. the real clients you want to attract will use it[/QUOT
I know you mentioned to choose a contact method Loveshooks; but you ever worry about how easy it is hacking into Yahoo? I just don't know..could I be overly concerned on there history issues?
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I might shut down my account here. I only have one real client and I get the most idiots from here asking if I take PP or AGC. Who needs them wasting my time. Sorry, Mark, you are so cute but looks alone can't keep me.
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Yeah its been like extremely dead and all you can depend on are the repeat customers you've kept in contact with before.
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kortneykay
And now we bid... Is traffic that good at the top because all I'm getting is a ton of freeloading foreigners who act like the thought of paying for a show is a sin. I used to get tons of shows, now, a few inquires. I'm willing to try it out though I guess. $30+ for a week of ads is fine if lots of shows are being bought but why pay for a week of ads for $30 or so, when the monthly ad is only $20? I guess more people will sign up for the monthly because its a lot cheaper.
I bought a featured ad once and got ZERO shows lol. I was making at least $100 a week before I bought the ad. Then I kinda let the site go for awhile. I'm back now but I don't think I would ever buy or bid on a featured ad again.
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Today was the first day I spent time logged in and I got 19 Skype add contact requests and one show... lol
I probably won't bid more than I did already. I was overwhelmed with the amount of messages I was getting today, and for only getting one show it wasn't really what I was hoping for. Most of the guys wanted to 1. talk non stop without getting a show 2. negotiate prices when I clearly state price on my profile 3. ask about paypal and amazon gift cards
I'm going to keep trying but I'm going to keep using it with my twitter followers rather than pay for a featured spot.
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This is what I have been doing pretty much.
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I won't lie--there was a time when I could have used CMD for my entire income. I would have had to sit by my computer all day and post multiple ads, but I could have done it. The new site has been mixed for me. I have theories that paying customers haven't transitioned over yet or that marketing has been ignored a bit to finish the new site. Also, it's been slow as fuck on big box sites, so indy being super slow/full of time wasters is very reflective of what's happening this time of year period in my opinion.
Hopefully it picks up soon.
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emma383
I know you mentioned to choose a contact method Loveshooks; but you ever worry about how easy it is hacking into Yahoo? I just don't know..could I be overly concerned on there history issues?
I don't think that yahoo is easier to hack than any other messenger service, historically yahoo has probably been targeted more heavily as it's an older messenger service and used to be one of the most popular. still, most hacks to any system are caused by keyloggers and phishing rather than any inherent insecurity issues. to prevent that never accept skype/yahoo files from people you don't trust, use a good antivirus and never fall for that 'hey, your pirated content is being passed around a yahoo group' ish (if you log in to check it for yourself via the link they provide they can steal your password)
my main concern is protecting my skype account (that's the reason I never post that ID publicly, or talk publicly about the reason why I protect it), so I use yahoo as my sorting system for separating new clients from the chaff. but yeah, based on my own experience and watching trends on LCMS, most guys don't seem to care about initial contact method. it's really just a matter of choosing one(s) that suits you best
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LaylaLovely
What is the monthly ad? I thought there was only the top rotating banner featured spots that we can bid for.
There's a monthly payment of $20 I believe for a featured spot at the top, and top placement with ads and a red ribbon on your profile. But bidding looks like it's going to be $30+ depending on how much one wants the top spot but that's only for a week. It looks like he's trying to get a bid war going on which girls could start putting down $50-100 just to be the top girl. Great for Mark but I'm not sure what it will be like for us. I have this site that I advertise on and sometimes I'll get a ton of paying traffic. Then there are weeks like last week where I spent $100+ in advertising and it was dead so there's that.
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How do you ladies deal with the offline adding/messaging? I mean when you log into Skype and there's guys that tried to add or message you when you weren't signed in.
I've been just sending a canned response with my CMD link in it, but I'm not sure that's the best way to handle it since it rarely converts to sales OR the guy even responding.
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I think that Mark did away with the monthly ads and now featured ads are the only option. Monthly ads used to appear on the side bar on the old site. No such ad space anymore and it doesn't appear in the FAQs as an option to buy any longer.
So, if you want a top ad, you're gonna have to bid.
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EvaDarington
How do you ladies deal with the offline adding/messaging? I mean when you log into Skype and there's guys that tried to add or message you when you weren't signed in.
I've been just sending a canned response with my CMD link in it, but I'm not sure that's the best way to handle it since it rarely converts to sales OR the guy even responding.
I get back to them ASAP. If I brought the guy myself I'll try and set something up and leave my cm link so he can spend on other girls. If they came from CMD I will get back to them as soon as I see they messaged/tried to add me and I'll try and get them to book a show by pasting my purchase link from CMD. For some reason I'm getting mainly foreigners who assume we're around for free cam sex. Go figure.
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anoncamgirl
Ugh. I'm actually pretty annoyed at the bidding for spots thing.
Same here. I'm honestly really not a fan of most of these changes. I liked that you could pay for exposure OR earn exposure by being a top model. It was motivating and attainable. TBH featured spots never did anything for me (I never paid for them but I've gotten free monthly featured ads many times and found no difference in traffic) but I still appreciated the thought. I really wish CMD had just stayed the way it was. I'm still doing alright on it earnings-wise but it used to be by far my favorite site, and now it's getting kind of depressing. :/
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I was unhappy that the top earners would always appear ahead of the lower earners. I really liked the old site with bumping, because I had a shot to temporarily be at the top. I sit logged in to CMD all day and only get losers and timewasters. I was planning to request I be added to the waitlist for a feature spot, I fully expected Mark to jack the price of those spots up to $50 or so per month, but this bidding thing is crap. There is no explanation other than a blatant money grab.
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I think Mark should've offered top spots to all the bbs who were around when CMD first launched. I know that just because someone finds a site first that they should get first dibs but I remember when it was just a handful of us girls and traffic was banging. Now I'm seeing girls on top who are extremely new. I've previously paid for feature ads and the last time I paid I didn't even make a sale all month. I'd be willing to try it again but I just feel like it's overcrowded now and we'll have to push harder to get a piece of the pie. Mark is my boy, quick to respond (to me anyway) funny and really tech savvy. I just wish it didn't feel so "big box site" right now.
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Procrasturbator
Same here. I'm honestly really not a fan of most of these changes. I liked that you could pay for exposure OR earn exposure by being a top model. It was motivating and attainable. TBH featured spots never did anything for me (I never paid for them but I've gotten free monthly featured ads many times and found no difference in traffic) but I still appreciated the thought. I really wish CMD had just stayed the way it was. I'm still doing alright on it earnings-wise but it used to be by far my favorite site, and now it's getting kind of depressing. :/
I'm a new model on there and have been making maybe $30 a week and sitting at the very bottom of the list so I thought of buying a featured status to get some boost and a bit of exposure. But now I see it only lasts a week and someone's bid $50 for it already? And it's not even the end of the bidding period. Looks like I'm gonna have to pay around $70 for a feature that may or may not pay off or just stay in the asshole of the world.
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Sunnylexie
or just stay in the asshole of the world.
Damn girl, you are so funny! All your posts make me laugh hysterically!
I'm just going to leave my ad in the bowels of CMD. It's free advertising. All my Skype shows come from the other indy sites and CB anyway.