wow after all these months, "ross" is still roaming around asking about food play but STILL hasn't payed many girls . I spoke with him 3 months ago about this and he never responded back once I told him that fetish will cost more lmao
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wow after all these months, "ross" is still roaming around asking about food play but STILL hasn't payed many girls . I spoke with him 3 months ago about this and he never responded back once I told him that fetish will cost more lmao
I don't get a lot of shows on CMD because I wasted my new girl time and then didn't start there for several months, but I've started getting more shows. Does anyone else have a hard time doing domination when you can actually talk to someone? I have no problem being a bitch on Streamate, but there's something about Skype that seems more personal. I just did a domme show with the sweetest guy. He was so nervous and I had such a hard time being mean. How do you get over that?
Practice. The first skype show I ever did on CMD (or indy show, period, for that matter) was an SPH session. I could see and hear him. It was baffling. Like, how does one humiliate someone for having a tiny dick when you can hear him?! I don't know why it was so much harder than a box site, but it was. Took me like a month to get over my trepidation with skype shows and it still happens occasionally. But it does get better with practice.
My hourly rate tracker spreadsheet that I use to track trends in earnings was also made after 3 or 4 glasses of wine. I also bought a pink penguin cell phone case and a long blonde wig while drunk. So...I clearly need to spend less time on the computer when drunk.
LOL! The reason I mentioned the spreadsheets in the first place was because I did that, too! The evening after Issabelle showed off her awesome tracking spreadsheet, I had a couple hard ciders on cam, and realized that I was too tipsy to be camming (yes, I'm a terrible lightweight, and I find it difficult to cam under the influence these days). Of course, as soon as I logged off, I went into happy spreadsheet mode and produced a few good sheets that are quite functional in spite of the tipsiness.
I don't really shop much, so I hadn't even thought about drunken shopping. Thank god! I'd hate to see what kind of nonsense I might buy.
I once bought a goat online for a family in Africa after a few Jagerbombs.
I'm actually thinking of deleting my cmd account just to cut down on the annoying Skype adds that I just ending wasting my time having to delete one by fucking one! Since they pay 10% less than lcms it seems less and less worth the hassle.
I have one guy who can't use LCMS (her payment processor rejects him every time for whatever reason). I have 2 other CMD guys who if I removed my ad could come over to LCMS with me. Because I am a disgustingly honest person, I have not given them my LCMS link because they originally found me there, and weren't my own traffic. But I REALLY REALLY REALLY regret paying for featured space. So far I have had ZERO enquiries that have not included the words "free show bb?" I have had a lot of Skype contact requests, but every single one has asked for a free show. All of them have sent their initial contact request in Arabic. Mark, wherever you are buying traffic from, it fucking sucks. I wasted money on this, and I am fucking PISSED. Yes, at myself, because don't be drunk and hoping to improve your business, but also at Mark for this bullshit "opportunity". I am going to lose money on this, and it could be the straw that ends my time with CMD. I would rather have to deal with Amazon giftcards for the one guy than the bullshittery of this at the moment.
Blatant money grab. Very unclassy, Mark. Just one more person trying to make money off naked girls online. Sigh.
I...omg. You are one of my favourite people ALREADY and now I just love you more. I have taken my credit card off every site, but I think I will ADD it to OxFam or something because...this is just the best response of all time.
I think I'm going to delete mine as well. I stopped even signing on to Skype because it's way more trouble than it's worth. I like how Skyprivate hides your Skype ID unless they have a certain amount of money in their account. So I think I'll just rely on that when and if I decide to do Skype shows again. It's just not worth the trouble of all the contact requests that go nowhere with CMD.
Actually I'm not really seasoned on the site and the only guy that was consistently spending started getting annoying with his " I hope you're not only into me for my money" or the worse was when he kept asking me to keep my cam on all day for him. I had to tell him repeatedly that I can't and have other shit to do. Now every time he contacts me I just ask "are you looking for a show and I suppose that pissed him off so no more shows are coming through this site.
I wasn't going to waste money that I don't really have to pay for placement. When it comes to indy I don't see the point unless it's a site like niteflirt.
It used to be worth it when it was $25 for the month. I bought featuring a few times and always did well out of it. I could not believe when mark raised the prices, shortened the time, and halved the traffic! Like way to kill your own business :-/
Well, for now I just went through and blocked every country except the US and Canada. That should limit the contact requests for now.
I am going through the same thing. I find CMD not worth the hassle. I got a submissive show the other day that paid well, other than that, it's dudes mainly from other countries requesting to add me. Most of the time these days, it is going nowhere. These guys actually have the balls to tell me $30 is too expensive for a full show for 10 mins. They tell me the most they will spend is $15 or so. I get called expensive! lol
Most just add me and try to get a free "preview" too. My earnings weekly have taken a huge nosedive and I'm getting more money from big box sites so maybe I'll go back to that until traffic improves.:-\
Mark is not making me a happy camper these days.
Not only am I making almost nothing on CMD (in contrast to the $100/day I made before), but I really hate how big box it has gotten. It used to feel personal and friendly to the models and now it is definitely NOT. I liked being able to talk to Mark like we were both human beings, and now talking to him feels like Streamate support.
A few weeks ago I got a payment for a show on CMD, and the guy never contacted me. In fact, I made attempts to contact him for about an hour afterward. No response.
SO OF COURSE I get a fuckin' chargeback from this douchebag. That's frustrating enough, right? No, what pissed me off even more was Mark's canned robot response.
I replied to his email telling him the story about how he paid for a show and never contacted me, so I contacted him, etc. And this is the response I get back -
"We have issued a refund to the client. We will contact Boleyn Studios to let them know that (amount) should be deducted from your account since you were already paid by them for this show.
Thanks, Mark"
OK COOL NO DISCUSSION OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT? THANKS.
Honestly I could care less about the stupid chargeback, it's the site and Mark's new fancy attitude that I don't care for anymore. :\
Please remember that CMD is a payment processor for indie models. They are not a traditional "camsite". I think that's where a lot of camgirls end up going wrong or getting confused. You have to bring in your own traffic; relying on other girls to bring you traffic is a terrible idea.
Right, I don't think anyone has lost sight of that aspect. The problem is that it USED to be a pretty good source of advertising for models. And obviously Mark still wants us to treat it that way since he's selling (at a high cost) "better" ad space. Why try to sell us better visibility if it's just a processor?
It's obviously going to be disappointing if you rely on CMD to find you all your customers, but at the same I don't think it's too much to expect some new clients from it.
Yeah, these are some really fair points, and I respect your opinion. Honestly, I think we can all agree that the bidding thing is pretty greedy. I've already posted my two cents about that, haha.
Unfortunately, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about the customers thing. While I think it's fair to expect occasional crossover from other girls on an indie site, most of your traffic has to be brought in by yourself. That'd why the percentage is so high. I completely understand where you are coming from, though. Everyone uses sites differently, it's what makes every girl so unique and special. :)
I agree, with indy you have to drive your own traffic. But if your driving your own traffic, your damn sure going to drive to to the payment processor that has the best %, which is no longer CMD.
CMD isnt however just a payment processor, its also a listing site and in that sense, should drum up some of its own traffic. By not using redirects and such, i'm sure CMD lost a lot of its organic search traffic.
I promised to record my #s but then I wrote them down and forgot to post them. Here they are:
I bid: $25.00, which got me the 4th highest spot on the "Featured" carousel.
To break even I had to make: $33.33 (gross, and my 10 min shows are $30)
I made: $22.50 (my cut) from a show with one of my long-time regs that does a show with me every week.
Profile views: +185 (I average about 60-70 per week)
Ad views: +74 (across all 3 of my ads, I average about 20 per week)
Skype contact requests from CMD guys: 72. Of these...64 were from Middle Eastern countries. 70 were not in English the first time until I said "sorry, English only". 60 asked for PayPal. 10 demanded a free show because they had a great cock (I wish I was kidding about this one). 12 got so abusive when I explained they needed to pay via CMD that when I blocked them I marked them as abusive on Skype's popup box. 1 turned out to be a spam bot. 71 asked for a "preview" or "peek". 70 of those people asked for a preview/peek after telling me they would not pay at all or only through PayPal.
I was "online" on CMD: for 24 hours per day for 6 days. I replied to every Skype contact request as soon as I woke up/got back to the computer.
So...while I recognize that CMD is fundamentally a payment processor, and as an indy site we should bring our own traffic, by charging for preferred space, Mark is implying that there is traffic to the site that is worth buying. In my opinion it is a huge waste. The bidding is greedy, obviously Mark must have lost income switching to the new format and this is how he is making up for it. I am planning to phase out my CMD shows and wind up on LCMS and SkyPrivate for guys looking for Skype shows. My attempt at bidding for success was the final nail in the coffin.
I agree with most of you ladies :)
I know I haven t been on much lately ( been doing some traveling, getting ready to move, etc) but since they changed the site to the new format, my amount of shows decreased pretty bad....
I still do some shows here and there but it s usually repeat customers, regulars and stuff like that..
I get a lot of request from guys from countries where it s obvious they won t be paying for a cam show in usd ( and now I ve blocked a few countries) and I even get lots of UK guys wasting my time, asking for free shows or lower my rate....
I agree it s always great to attract our own traffic when we work indy sites but with the older format, sometimes i wouldn t even tweet for weeks and still get shows there...
We will see how it goes but I ve been doing a few pvts through Live cam models and sky private ( I love the new feature where the guy has to have a certain amount of $$ on his account to see your skype ID).
Happy camming!
Thanks for the infoz.
Question:
Why haven't you blocked middle eastern countries? I Know site blocks only do so much but since I blocked a them and a few others, Its almost completely reduced that kind of traffic. Not that I disagree at all with the overall point of your post. You're dead on.
Has anyone had that annoying fuck yet? I felt bad I had to contact Mark to reverse the guy's money because he was loosing it when I told him let me get ready. He kept messaging and messaging like a pscycho. Then after he got the email he apologized booked another show and blew up in skype. I didn't add him because I felt he'd be a problem. Sure enough he contacts me last night to do a show then starts saying let me show you my cock first. Changes his mind says he wants to play with someone else so I wished him well. Sent some more nonsense and then today contacts me yet again for more fucking nonsense.
This is the first time I had to deal with someone so fucking mentally bent. So he blows up my skype again and then says give me a few mins so we go for 2:30 his time. Within those few minutes he starts typing a bunch of nonsense about adding him blah blah. So when 2:30 rolls around I told him to book or to fuck off. He has 5 mins. I just did a countdown and once again the guy was going crazy typing all sorts of nonsense. BLOCKED. He wrote some fuck you something but I barely got to read it before he was gone.
Beware this guy has already been blocked by another model. He had the audacity to state I'll do a show if you can get her to unblock me. Sounds like he will eventually not have anyone to cam with as I'm block #2.