Have you ladies ever had to deal with this?
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Have you ladies ever had to deal with this?
For the most part the managers and bouncers are pretty professional.
The only think I find odd is they sometimes come in the dressing room while the girls are nude and changing. And they allow this guy to come in the dressing room and sell outfits.
The bouncer once came into the dressing room while I was getting changed and asked me my name because he didn't recognize 'new booty' call me a prude but I was pissed like what the f*ck are you doing in here and don't call me new booty a$$hole
What are you specifically referring to? I am guessing they see us naked on stage, so it's ok to barge in anywhere..
Good point whirlerz. But We can't get naked on stage or in vip bc of laws here so the only place were naked is dressing rooms. Although some girls flash in VIP but they're not supposed to and could get in trouble
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yes this happens occasionally. There is zero chance of making a sexual harassment charge stick due to lack of 'stripper credibility'
Knock on wood I've never encountered this but 3 girls on day shift said the manager pretended to be a customer and made them do a lap dance for him in VIP they said his d*ck was hard and small too lol!
I thought that was odd and bordering on inappropriate for a manager to initiate something like this.
There's been a manager fucking a dancer relationship in every club I've worked in.
The one guy would definitely make your life hell if you rejected him, but he was kept in check by the other 2 managers, so nobody got fired. There was another that would just bug girls if they wouldn't, but he got less butthurt.
I've never had to deal with it, because I stay away from any socialization - I don't make friends with the other girls or management. They all decide I'm antisocial (ha!) and leave me be. Sooo that is what I would advise, to not chat with them any more than you have to for business, and if they do try to hit on you, just give them a firm but polite no.
I've had so many creepy club employees. I just try to limit my time around them, stay 100% sober, and call them out every time they try to sneakily put an arm around me or anything of that nature. This one guy right now is the worst about trying to touch me, and he asks me stupid customer shit like whether my tits are real. I just ignore him every time he looks at/speaks to me now. I already told him I have a boyfriend, and he said something stupid like, "Well, I don't." And they all think I'm new, so he's trying to make me feel all special for earning his attentions. It's totally gross.
Eew it does sound gross! Yeah lotta creepo mgrs. out there..& everywhere. Sometimes my roomie gets like that, which's why I follow TM's advice pretty much.
Ugh, I am kinda dealing w this now! This guy acts all cool and everything but talks to me too much, and I am ok talking to him cuz I wanna know what goes on in the club, he can give me the scoop so I like that but then hes always trying to get on me like asking me out and shit. I told him I dont date guys who know what I do, and he just keeps a trying.. Annoying, but maybe he will stop one day when he sees it will never happen, well c!
Yes I have. I quit and changed clubs. Just because we're strippers doesn't mean we don't deserve a professional staff. We already deal with icky customers.
yes, especially with DJs!! i had one dj try and forcefully pull down my thong, in a thong and pasties club while i was up in his booth, and told me that he wouldnt play the songs i wanted unless i fucked him. another dj loved to come into the dressing room and just sit and stare at the new girls, slap girl's asses, etc.
one security guard that i work with is a fucking creep. if you don't reciprocate his nasty lil advances he makes you life a living hell : follows you around looking for something to bitch about and tells management you have done more dances than you have JUST to fuck with your money. getting real sick of it, but every club seems to have that
DJs are always the worst in my experiences, too! I've never really had a sexually abusive manager, not to me anyway - just the occasional misogynistic asshole. But I've had some super scummy DJs.
To some extent, obviously, the boundaries for what constitutes as sexual harassment in the SC are a little different than what they are in the vanilla world. I don't really care if bouncers or DJs flirt with me - as long as they do it in a non-creepy way, with their words and not their hands.
Dealt with this a lot and sadly it won't go away because the clubs often hire these types of men. Mostly dealt with unprofessional managers but some DJs and bouncers too.
It's a hard line to draw in a place where there's at least partial nudity and women are being paid to act sexually explicit. One of my managers is somewhat of a perv, i.e, if he offers a hug he'll extend it to feeling your ass. I don't hug him now, ha. It makes me sad that I see so many girls actually play it up when male employees come on to them, thinking they're being cute/silly/wtf ever the reason. It only encourages unprofessional behavior, but that also calls into question what actually constitutes "professional" behavior by employees ITC. As much as I resent men coming on to me at work (exempting customers), you can't dangle a good steak in front of a hungry dog's nose and then be mad at the dog for eating it. I'm not trying to victim-blame, though - fondling genitals or breasts, or using sex as a threat is completely unacceptable and I have no analogies to excuse that...But when I get irritated that the DJ or the bouncer flirted with me, or told me about my tits or my ass or my new pube line, I kinda have to check myself. Meh. Thoughts.
I definitely experienced this at the first club I ever danced at. The night manager would act all nice when he was sober but the second he was drinking he would try and pull me in the liquor room when nobody was looking, or come up behind me in the dressing room when getting dressed from stage and try to touch kitty...he was ridiculous. I finally rejected him for good and he fired me.
However, the daytime mgr knew I wasn't the problem and knew exactly what was going on and he rehired me for dayshift.
The night time bouncers were scandalous too. Try and poke everyone in the club. They were gross and looked desperate.
Besides the day manager who was super kind, the rest of the club was scum.
I disagree with the bolded statements. I think it's very clear that men in the club should not coerce or touch the women working with them. They are not customers. There is no fine line. Predators pretend not to see a difference until they're told 'no'. Then suddenly, they are the boss, not a consumer. I think we should stay clear on that for our own good and to know when to speak up or leave if necessary.
This past shift, a guy who maybe works for the club (he won't specify what he does and the manager won't clarify either, but he says he works with management and is "kinda a bouncer") asked me to dance for him after making remarks about my breasts when I got off stage. I declined, saying I'd prefer to keep my relationships with (possible) club employees purely that of coworkers. Plus, he is morbidly obese (not trying to be rude... I just find excessively large people difficult to dance for) and was drunk and wearing basketball shorts. Everyone around us seemed to think I was being rigid/a prude, but I just don't see how me dancing for an employee would do anything other than empower him to further harass me. I'm not going to budge on this, but the other girls working with me thought I was an idiot for passing up a dance on a slowish night. Would anyone here have gone for it?
And I'm with Optimist on this. I can understand a DJ entering the dressing room to update his sign-in list or whatever, but flirting is not necessary. And compliments can also clearly go too far. My DJ told me I looked nice the other night; that's polite and fine. The creep who hits on me all the time tells me I have "fine titties" and sits by stage when I'm on it and smiles in this "I'm too dumb to get away with being a serial rapist/murderer, but if I weren't..." way.
Altho I see Optimist's point & generally agree w/ it, I still think sm times it depends on who the comments come from & the nature of the interaction. My favourite dj at my home club is one raunchy sonofabitch, he even makes jokes abt sm of the girls when he announces them for stage (like 'here's our homecoming queen' for one of the reeeeeallly young looking ones or anal-sex jokes abt me since I'm European). In his case I know he doesn't mean anything by it, & when one of the girls was uncomfortable w/ those sorts of comments she let him know & he toned it down. The anal sex thing has become a running joke between me & him, it's all in good fun.
That sort of behaviour from anyone else, however, I wouldn't put up w/. I make it a point to not be any physically closer to the mgrs than I have to be, b/c they try to cop feels disguised as hugs & make other offhand comments that I find very unprofessional. I don't see much of a way around that tho, except to stay off their radar as best I can & stay out of their physical reach.
Also, re: mgrs who want dances from the girls - I find this extremely unprofessional as well. I've seen one of my mgrs doing this on occasion, Idk if he pays the girls in question, or hooks them up w/ drugs, or wtf is going on there, but I'd 2nd your refusal to dance for a dj/bouncer/mgr/whoever fellow club employee no matter how broke I was.
What I meant about it being hard to draw clear lines is that it would make a shitty court case if it were anything less than some kind of assault. Obviously, walk away when something that makes you uncomfortable is happening. Optimist, you said "consumers", but I was talking about male coworkers. Misinterp. BUT in the case of customers, it IS hard to draw a line, because we have girls who absolutely let them suck on their titties, finger them, whatnot, so they think this acceptable. This is not acceptable for myself and others, and I would feel harassed (to say the least) if a customer just went in for the kill like that. That's why I verbally assert what my "lines" are, first. That way, there is a clear line. Because of aforementioned types of girls, when a customer does something a girl doesn't like (short of assault), which she hasn't at all expressed not to do, it's a grey-ish area until she tells him no and he persists.
What I don't understand most about these type of guys, is that if a girl shies away from their advances she is met with negative reinforcement.
If a guy is trying to get laid, isn't he usually super nice until AFTER the sex happens? Lol.
I know this is an older thread but yes I had one manager at a dive club grab my butt after I was dressed to go home. I guess his ego was bruised once he saw me with a baller in the club & I said that he couldn't have access to me like he claims he can with all of the girls in the club smh. At a money making club I worked at a particular staff member/door guy would whistle after my performance smh.