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Is Streamate worth it even after they sell and record your sessions?
I work on MFC and MGF and I've been wanting to start working on SM. HOWEVER, I have been very hesitant due to rumors/stories of SM selling and distributing private show recordings to tube sites and the like.
The last thing I need is the chance of someone happening by a video of me to be increased 10 fold.
So, to you ladies who work on SM, have you ever experienced someone finding you on a tube-site because SM put your videos out there? Do they use your profile picture in their promo stuff too?
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Re: Is Streamate worth it even after they sell and record your sessions?
Nearly all cam sites do that, and customers do too.
If you've been on MFC you have likely already been recorded and put on a ton of tube sites, especially if you do shows in free chat.
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MFC customers record & post shows more than SM does, from what I've seen. But pirating by customers has become 100x worse over the past year. Yes, SM gives shows to affiliates & tube sites, will use you in free pop ups on other sites.
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If you cam (where ever it may be), count on it being put online. If not in a video, in a stupid "chat with me now!" popup that you can never get removed (true story!). So if you are fine with that being on the internet, then yay camming. If you aren't fine with that being on the internet, don't do it and assume you'll be the exception to the rule because you won't.
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I actually just found my first video last week.
It was from when I first started camming a couple months ago and was from a private I did on Streamate.
It comes up when you google my cam name. At this point I don't really care.
It's a few seconds and if they like it, they may buy a show.
If your worried about being recorded, MFC seems like the worst site to use.
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If it's on the internet..its on there! Long before I was old enough to cam I was young had super crazy hair going on, had a camera and loved doing photoshoots for pix to use in my profiles. I've had those pictures stolen about...well at least a hundred times now. Someone pretending to be me.. Recently, someone used a photo of when I was 16 on a sexmeet sites..ggaaa. so it's not just camming! it's like a law of the internet.
If someone likes it they copy it.
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MissSeraphim
If it's on the internet..its on there! Long before I was old enough to cam I was young had super crazy hair going on, had a camera and loved doing photoshoots for pix to use in my profiles. I've had those pictures stolen about...well at least a hundred times now. Someone pretending to be me.. Recently, someone used a photo of when I was 16 on a sexmeet sites..ggaaa. so it's not just camming! it's like a law of the internet.
If someone likes it they copy it.
This is a great point.
Let's think about the MTV show Catfish for just a second.
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I haven't experienced anyone finding a vid of me....
The two guys I know who found me found me when I was live...LOL.
Through SM advertising but still..
Yes they use your picture/live feed/live feeds of you IN private to promote.
IMO if you're scared of someone finding out you shouldn't cam. period.
People will find out. People WILL find out.
But to answer your question for me camming on SM is 100% worth it even after those people finding out.
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You made the decision to get naked on cam; you need to accept the full spectrum of the job description. You will be recorded. Regardless of where you are working. It is a bit ignorant to avoid a potential employer because of "rumors/stories"... it's a FACT. You will be recorded, and thinking it's just one site that is the problem is silly.
If you aren't comfortable working on SM, keep working where you are now.
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AF camgirl
You made the decision to get naked on cam; you need to accept the full spectrum of the job description. You will be recorded. Regardless of where you are working. It is a bit ignorant to avoid a potential employer because of "rumors/stories"... it's a FACT. You will be recorded, and thinking it's just one site that is the problem is silly.
If you aren't comfortable working on SM, keep working where you are now.
I am aware that I will be recorded by customers on other sites, but that's not what I was asking about. I specifically was asking about Streamate and how they record you for promotional purposes. Also, "thinking it's just one site that is the problem" isn't "silly". The last time I checked, MGF and MFC weren't plastering my private video sessions reasons all over tube sites and and pop-up ads for promotional reasons.
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Missbeth
I haven't experienced anyone finding a vid of me....
The two guys I know who found me found me when I was live...LOL.
Through SM advertising but still..
Yes they use your picture/live feed/live feeds of you IN private to promote.
IMO if you're scared of someone finding out you shouldn't cam. period.
People will find out. People WILL find out.
But to answer your question for me camming on SM is 100% worth it even after those people finding out.
It's nice to hear that you still think it's worth it. :)
It's not that I don't think anyone will ever find out, It's just that the difference between MFC&MGF and SM is that MCF&MGF let me do my private shows and let me be, if anyone is recording something it's the customer, and not all customers are recording, and not all the customers recording are going to post the vids on tube sites. BUT with SM, the camsite itself is purposely recording and plastering private session vids all over and basically FORCING people to view them with pop-up ads! See the difference? The risks are just so different D:
I'm thinking of just not showing my face in SM privates. :b I don't mind showing my face in other sites though.
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I personally think that's bullshit. No cam site should be allowed to record your shows and put them on the internet. I think if people can watch free video's that's good enough for them. If they are going to record the video's they should sell them on the site and give us half. I don't like that they sell the Gold shows on their tv channel and we don't get a dime of it. They charge customers $30 a month, they should be paying performers that do Gold shows at least 50 percent instead of 35. That could explain why the traffic on there is down by half this year. Why buy a live cam show on the site when you can just pay to watch it on their channel?
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Regina2013
I am aware that I will be recorded by customers on other sites, but that's not what I was asking about. I specifically was asking about Streamate and how they record you for promotional purposes. Also, "thinking it's just one site that is the problem" isn't "silly". The last time I checked, MGF and MFC weren't plastering my private video sessions reasons all over tube sites and and pop-up ads for promotional reasons.
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Regina2013
I am aware that I will be recorded by customers on other sites, but that's not what I was asking about. I specifically was asking about Streamate and how they record you for promotional purposes. Also, "thinking it's just one site that is the problem" isn't "silly". The last time I checked, MGF and MFC weren't plastering my private video sessions reasons all over tube sites and and pop-up ads for promotional reasons.
I think the problem that we are having is that you aren't really asking a question. You seem as if you mind is already made up about this issue.
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JaneBurgess
I personally think that's bullshit. No cam site should be allowed to record your shows and put them on the internet. I think if people can watch free video's that's good enough for them. If they are going to record the video's they should sell them on the site and give us half. I don't like that they sell the Gold shows on their tv channel and we don't get a dime of it. They charge customers $30 a month, they should be paying performers that do Gold shows at least 50 percent instead of 35. That could explain why the traffic on there is down by half this year. Why buy a live cam show on the site when you can just pay to watch it on their channel?
This!!! I agree. This is why I'm so upset! We deserve a cut if they're going to do that!
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I was asking for opinions from streamate models on whether they think it's worth it. I just wanted some insight from somebody already working there :P
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Regina2013
This!!! I agree. This is why I'm so upset! We deserve a cut if they're going to do that!
Yes, it is worth it.
In a perfect world, a site would be run by an actual cam model and it would be fair.
Business isn't fair, no matter what you do in your life, someone will take a cut.
I agree, it's dumb but depending on how serious you take camming it's worth every penny.
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Regina2013
I was asking for opinions from streamate models on whether they think it's worth it. I just wanted some insight from somebody already working there :P
Alright then. I am a model there and my opinion is that it is worth it to me.
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It is silly. Streamate has traffic because of it's pop-ups and promos. If you don't want to worry about being on a pop-up then don't take advantage of their PAYING traffic. Also, most of the streamate promos I see are of free chat-NOT privates. If you don't think it's fair then you should be working Indy. Everyone gives streamate this horrible rap because the % is low, or they record shows, or something else. But I have never had a problem making money there (except for technical glitches that seldom affect me) and that is due to the traffic they buy, charge backs the cover, and advanced site features they spend the other % of the money they make on.
AGAIN, if you are happy at the sites you are on, stick with them. I will enjoy the massive amount of paying traffic on streamate! Let fewer of you all that go to work there, the more money for the rest of us.
On a side note, you may want to review the contracts you signed with MFC/MGF because they may very well say that they have the rights to your content... which means they may not be using it now, but they can use it in the future.
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I disagree. I like Streamate however it is 100 percent dishonest of them to run ad's saying the site is 100 percent free or that it's a dating site. The only thing free is the chat room and we are NOT a dating site. I have no issue with pop up or ad's but I have an issue with them using any cam performers images on a dating site. So not cool.
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AF camgirl
It is silly. Streamate has traffic because of it's pop-ups and promos. If you don't want to worry about being on a pop-up then don't take advantage of their PAYING traffic. Also, most of the streamate promos I see are of free chat-NOT privates. If you don't think it's fair then you should be working Indy. Everyone gives streamate this horrible rap because the % is low, or they record shows, or something else. But I have never had a problem making money there (except for technical glitches that seldom affect me) and that is due to the traffic they buy, charge backs the cover, and advanced site features they spend the other % of the money they make on.
AGAIN, if you are happy at the sites you are on, stick with them. I will enjoy the massive amount of paying traffic on streamate! Let fewer of you all that go to work there, the more money for the rest of us.
On a side note, you may want to review the contracts you signed with MFC/MGF because they may very well say that they have the rights to your content... which means they may not be using it now, but they can use it in the future.
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JaneBurgess
I disagree. I like Streamate however it is 100 percent dishonest of them to run ad's saying the site is 100 percent free or that it's a dating site. The only thing free is the chat room and we are NOT a dating site. I have no issue with pop up or ad's but I have an issue with them using any cam performers images on a dating site. So not cool.
Do you have a link to said dating site where profiles of models are being posted? I haven't seen this, and I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I would greatly appreciate it if you could point me in the direction (PM please). The only thing I can imagine is it is a "dating site" you would find a pop-up for on a tube site.
TBH, I don't care if guys do think it's a dating site. They still gotta put their CC info in and pay me for my attention. Shame on them if they don't put 2 and 2 together, and if they don't I am going to milk them for ever cent letting them believe whatever they want. More $$$ in my pocket.
The site is technically free. They can lurk all they want without giving up CC info. This is marketing at it's prime. MyFreeCams isn't technically "100% free" yet they put FREE in the website name! It's like VitaminWater leading people to believe it's "good for them" because it has the word Vitamin in the title!
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i even have videos of me fully clothed just chatting in free chat on mfc. there are multiple of these videos. all findable via my camname. im not doing anything sexy and not even wearing revealing clothes. im talking about cats and tv shows in most of them. they are like 40min+ long. i dono why people have bothered to upload these files. it seems like a waste of time for anyone who downloads it (200mb+ worth of downloading). i just dont understand why they would do this. it angers me so much because its so pointless. i think the person recording dusnt even watch the video 2 see whats on it.
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Yes it has been posted on here a couple of times now. It's pictures of ours from our Streamate profiles with fake cities and saying we are available for dates. They also posted on here a few times other ad's that say the site is free, they say free a bunch of times in the ad's. It implies that nudity is free as well.
I will see if I can find the dating ad's again. I know a couple of the performers know the links to the sites.
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AF camgirl
Do you have a link to said dating site where profiles of models are being posted? I haven't seen this, and I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I would greatly appreciate it if you could point me in the direction (PM please). The only thing I can imagine is it is a "dating site" you would find a pop-up for on a tube site.
TBH, I don't care if guys do think it's a dating site. They still gotta put their CC info in and pay me for my attention. Shame on them if they don't put 2 and 2 together, and if they don't I am going to milk them for ever cent letting them believe whatever they want. More $$$ in my pocket.
The site is technically free. They can lurk all they want without giving up CC info. This is marketing at it's prime. MyFreeCams isn't technically "100% free" yet they put FREE in the website name! It's like VitaminWater leading people to believe it's "good for them" because it has the word Vitamin in the title!
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I have to agree with AF.
I would like to know as well, I hear about it and not once seen it.
Ads are placed everywhere, the more affiliates the more tricks to add customers. The more money for us. Its not like its a whole show, usually just clips of shows
I *think* you can be requested to be removed from promos.
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OP at least you may have been warned or maybe read this? Yes, it worth it to answer your question
Streamate's network consists of hundreds of websites that target over 500 million visitors each month. Streamate will take care of all of the advertising costs in order to drive even more visitors to the websites where your model profile will appear, and to provide you with maximum exposure. 'WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU?'—a bigger audience and higher earning potential!
Your profile will appear on hundreds of websites at the same time, so the odds of making BANK are in your favor.
This includes .. pop ups, how else would we get customers?
Edit to add ~ I have seriously been thinking to email them and specifically request to be used
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does anyone know the dating site our profiles are on for streamate? I have searched all week and no results