feeling stuck...is it time to hang it up?
so it hasnt been even close to 2 years. and ive noticed that earnings have been on the decline. im not sure if its the clubs i have been at, the customers or me. I have not changed. My dancing has gotten better more floor work and less pole ... i dont do any pole tricks .but there was time when I was getting champagne rooms and lap dances left and right. Now I can barely get one. Im thinking Im just goin through the motions and maybe I need something to spark the same drive and earning potential I had when i first started a year ago
Re: feeling stuck...is it time to hang it up?
It could be bad season for your club, could be stripper burn out, could be that you're just at a club with a lower earning potential. Do you pay attention to what the other girls make (estimating, not asking because as we all know that's just rude!), how often CRs sell, etc.? I know this makes me a little excessive, but if I'm having a bad $$ night I'll go back in the VIP and check the list at my club - if only one or two girls are back there, I feel better knowing it's not just me, and most of the jerks just aren't spending. If the VIP list full of girls who've made sales that night, it motivates me to hustle harder. It definitely helps knowing if the problem is with you or your club, before you figure out how best to proceed. And if you think you haven't changed, then try a different club! :)
Also, new girl money usually happens because baby strippers tend to be perky, bubbly, a little bit innocent and for the most part just having a good time. I think my "new girl buzz" lasted about 7-8 months! Obviously that buzz wears off, and you eventually have to learn how to cultivate your hustle more, because guys can see that you're becoming a predator! :P If girls are still making money at your club, read through the nearly 100 pages of hustle hut, and experiment with different strategies. Making a game of it can help stave off burn out. I once did an experiment where I asked every guy I talked to what their astrological sign was, and tried to sell myself by buttering up their ego with positive traits from their sign, and telling them that my sign, Cancers, are absolute freaks, sexually - did they want to see my naughty side? It sounds stupid, but that night was actually very entertaining and moderately lucrative for me...
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It could be any of the things you mentioned. It could be a combo of any of them. I've only danced in short bursts since quitting my first club that I was at for awhile. But there, it was a combination of bad season, shitty customers, too many new girls, and severe burn out. Maybe try a new club? Switch up your hustle or even the days that you work to jumpstart your brain into new patterns. Or maybe just take some time off if you can afford it or don't mind working a different job while you take a break. Maybe you'll really enjoy being out, or you might be dying to go back, but either way the break might do you some good to reset.
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I read the "Stripper Rules You Don't Follow" thread a few minutes ago, so I'm wondering if maybe you put forth more effort before and were therefore making better money? I mean, you posted about staying on your phone a lot, for one. That's one of the biggest turn offs many of my customers talk about. Plus, it's a huge distraction. I also tend to be more negative when I'm texting at work. "Omg, it's fucking dead. I want to leave." Shit like that. If I go in, stay off my phone, and at least try to seek out people who aren't totally horrible to be around, I tend to have better nights.
I agree with summerbre's point about comparing your earnings to what the average night is at your club for everyone else right now though. I was totally bummed last week when I thought I was having a terrible night, then I walked past the VIP room and saw that no one was in it. Made me realize that it definitely was not just me.
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tuesdaymarie
I read the "Stripper Rules You Don't Follow" thread a few minutes ago, so I'm wondering if maybe you put forth more effort before and were therefore making better money? I mean, you posted about staying on your phone a lot, for one. That's one of the biggest turn offs many of my customers talk about. Plus, it's a huge distraction. I also tend to be more negative when I'm texting at work. "Omg, it's fucking dead. I want to leave." Shit like that. If I go in, stay off my phone, and at least try to seek out people who aren't totally horrible to be around, I tend to have better nights.
I agree with summerbre's point about comparing your earnings to what the average night is at your club for everyone else right now though. I was totally bummed last week when I thought I was having a terrible night, then I walked past the VIP room and saw that no one was in it. Made me realize that it definitely was not just me.
Lmao You got me lol! im only on the phone in the dressing room when its dead. Which has been more than usual. the summer months have not been kind to everyone in the club so i do realize that factor.
i also had the idea that maybe my body type is not good for some of the clubs ive been at. theres only 5 black girls all skinny really fit type. the rest are various different nationalities .. i'm not the safest choice to the shy customer. im 5'11 hawaiian and black thick thighs and small waist and big butt. I've been told i'm "too much" last week a customer wanted to get an hour room untill i stood up . he proclaimed "oh,wow your really tall...can u find me a another black girl..one thats not so tall -__- " i started dancing in hood dive club that later remodeled. Now ive been trying to work middle level upscale clubs because its less drama and a better area.
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I can definitely relate.
I'd say don't leave your work until you have something else lined up. There's nothing like not having income and the place you can get money is the place where you don't want to be.
Just suck it up for a little while longer and make the best of it but keep searching for other options. And give yourself a deadline so you'll move faster.
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so it hasn't been even close to 2 years. and i've noticed that earnings have been on the decline
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I need something to spark the same drive and earning potential
If it's any consolation, the 'problem' with reduced dancer earnings potential may not stem from reduced 'drive' on the dancer's part. Customer spending in strip clubs is a 'luxury'. For a fact, over the past two years, ~90% of Americans have seen their net incomes remain stagnant or decline, while at the same time prices for 'necessary' items like food, energy, property taxes, insurance etc. have increased. This has reduced the amount of remaining dollars that can still be spent on 'luxuries'. Where club customers are concerned, this may take the form of not going to strip clubs anymore ... but more likely takes the form of still going to the clubs but spending far less money per visit than they used to.
Thus dancers who are not working in super upscale big city clubs that can count top ~10% earners ( whose incomes have actually gone up ) in their customer base, are in fact seeing fewer customer dollars being spent in their club. This in turn means that, even if a dancer is putting forth the same amount of 'drive' as she did last year or two years ago, her earnings potential is going to be reduced. There is also a distinct possibility that some dancers have already reacted to the smaller pool of available customer dollars by offering those customers more 'bang for their buck', which in turn leaves an even smaller pool of remaining customer dollars for 'clean' dancers to compete for.
Before you begin to doubt your effectiveness as a dancer, it's necessary to recognize that the strip club economics that existed two years ago has changed.
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I could actually relate to this what happened to me is that I don't have that fire in me anymore or the need to accomplish a certain mentality at my club ...I've been dancing since three years now all around the world not just one club recently I've been working at this one club since almost a year now and I haven't moved I think I've become more comfortable of how things are and at the same time miss the old days.dont get me wrong I'm the top earner in my club I make bank it's just that I used to do a lot better in the same environment but somehow not anymore....my advise is try a new surrounding a new club and remember you have to want it bad enough for it to come to you your old habit you old work mode etc that used to make you feel great try to encourage that upon yourself again and let the sparks keep flying back.i usually don't get worked up abt this because right now this is happening to me and has happened before and I know the minute I step foot in another club it all changes ... .
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Melonie
If it's any consolation, the 'problem' with reduced dancer earnings potential may not stem from reduced 'drive' on the dancer's part. Customer spending in strip clubs is a 'luxury'. For a fact, over the past two years, ~90% of Americans have seen their net incomes remain stagnant or decline, while at the same time prices for 'necessary' items like food, energy, property taxes, insurance etc. have increased. This has reduced the amount of remaining dollars that can still be spent on 'luxuries'. Where club customers are concerned, this may take the form of not going to strip clubs anymore ... but more likely takes the form of still going to the clubs but spending far less money per visit than they used to.
Thus dancers who are not working in super upscale big city clubs that can count top ~10% earners ( whose incomes have actually gone up ) in their customer base, are in fact seeing fewer customer dollars being spent in their club. This in turn means that, even if a dancer is putting forth the same amount of 'drive' as she did last year or two years ago, her earnings potential is going to be reduced. There is also a distinct possibility that some dancers have already reacted to the smaller pool of available customer dollars by offering those customers more 'bang for their buck', which in turn leaves an even smaller pool of remaining customer dollars for 'clean' dancers to compete for.
Before you begin to doubt your effectiveness as a dancer, it's necessary to recognize that the strip club economics that existed two years ago has changed.
so is it safe to say that i probably need to move to an area that has more disposable income?
Re: feeling stuck...is it time to hang it up?
Well, why not check it out first? Maybe try a brief (weekend) strip trip?
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^That's what I have got to do!
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Liv.
so is it safe to say that i probably need to move to an area that has more disposable income?
More money is more money.
Try changing your club, region
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^^^ also please keep in mind that some of the areas where upscale strip clubs can provide dancer access to 'top 10%' highest earning / highest spending club customers do NOT operate on an 'open door' strip club business model. Instead, they tightly control the total number of dancers allowed during a given shift ( with strict advance scheduling ), both to minimize dancers 'assaulting' customers and also to maintain high dancer earnings potential. Also they tightly control the 'quality' of the dancers they are willing to hire to fill the relatively small number of 'openings' which develop.